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Try Exercising This Constitutional Right And You're Apt To Regret It
Forbes ^ | February 13, 2018 | George Leef

Posted on 02/14/2018 6:05:53 AM PST by reaganaut1

The Sixth Amendment states, “In all criminal prosecutions, the accused shall enjoy the right to a speedy and public trial, by an impartial jury of the State and district wherein the crime shall have been committed….” Those words stand a clearly as they did when the Bill of Rights was adopted, but these days, Americans who insist on a jury trial may find themselves punished for doing so.

Here’s the problem. The American judicial system is so overwhelmed with cases that prosecutors don’t want to bother with trials. They would much rather strong-arm the defendant into a plea bargain, thus avoiding the cost and risk of a trial.

Defendants who resist the strong-arming are likely to suffer what Cato Institute legal scholar Clark Neily calls here “the trial penalty.” He writes, “It is among the most important features of America’s criminal justice system, and yet there is no reference to it in the Constitution, it is not taught in high school civics classes or even law schools, and most lawyers have never heard of it. Nevertheless, the Trial Penalty is the grease that keeps the massive engine of American criminal justice humming along at peak efficiency.”

More than 95 percent of criminal cases are settled with plea bargains and prosecutors would be happy if that number went over 99 percent, so defendants who demand a trial are usually hit by threats of various repercussions if they don’t cooperate. Human Rights Watch (HRW) states in this article, “In the rare cases in which defendants insist on going to trial, prosecutors make good on their threats. Federal drug offenders convicted after trial receive sentences on average three times as long as those who accept a plea bargain….”

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TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Editorial; Government
KEYWORDS: 6thamendment; courts; judicialsystem; speedytrial
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To: reaganaut1

The judiciary is the most corrupt and evil part of our government. It is full of hacks and those who lust only for more power. It needs to be completely revamped and this includes the SCOTUS...


21 posted on 02/14/2018 6:56:41 AM PST by jeffc (The U.S. media are our enemy)
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To: Pearls Before Swine
...I was told by a civil litigator that 95% or more of his cases were settled before trial, mostly because after discovery, and pre-trial motion jockeying, they had a pretty good idea of how the case would go, and because full-on big civil trials are extremely expensive in terms of legal fees...

All of the civil trials I have any experience with have settled, but usually not until minutes before the trial is scheduled to start or actually during the trial.

22 posted on 02/14/2018 6:58:21 AM PST by CurlyDave
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To: Hot Tabasco

Defendants may waive their right to a speedy trial. I do know that judges have dismissed charges when the right has not been waived and the prosecution keeps delay after delay after, well delay.


23 posted on 02/14/2018 7:03:22 AM PST by lastchance (Credo.)
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To: reaganaut1

Defendants also accept a plea bargain along the lines of better the devil you know than 12 people who would rather be anywhere but here deciding your fate. Even innocent people may opt for this when presented with the case the DA is making against them.


24 posted on 02/14/2018 7:04:52 AM PST by lastchance (Credo.)
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To: CodeToad

We spent over $20k on a conservatorship/trust challenge.


25 posted on 02/14/2018 7:10:20 AM PST by sheana
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To: ClearCase_guy

“In a free society, there should be far fewer reasons for anyone to ever be inside a courthouse. And speedy trials would be far more possible.”

Conservatives vowing to be “hard on crime” are as guilty for the legal excesses as are Marxist/Liberal/Progressives for just wanting every act possible to be defined as legal or illegal.


26 posted on 02/14/2018 7:10:35 AM PST by Wuli
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To: reaganaut1

Tom Selleck - An Innocent Man (1989)


27 posted on 02/14/2018 7:14:58 AM PST by Delta 21 (Build The Wall !! Jail The Cankle !!)
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To: Bloody Sam Roberts

I’ve been on several juries. The last one involved a dispute between a contractor and a couple. The contractor was a rather odd and unpleasant man and there were a couple of women on the jury who were determined to punish him and “make an example” out of him. They frankly couldn’t stand him (though, to their credit, they weren’t bleeding hearts for the whining couple either).

Praise God for the “restraining force” of a pool of citizens! These ladies were buffeted by the more reasonable voices among our group that insisted it was irrelevant that the man was creepy. All that mattered was “IS HE AT FAULT?”


28 posted on 02/14/2018 7:22:03 AM PST by avenir ("But as for you, teach what accords with sound doctrine."--Paul to Titus)
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To: CurlyDave

My experience as a litigant was 50-50... (two related and expensive suits).


29 posted on 02/14/2018 7:22:25 AM PST by Pearls Before Swine
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To: CodeToad

there needs to be an online AI app for this.


30 posted on 02/14/2018 7:24:08 AM PST by RitchieAprile
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To: CodeToad

... and that’s why we need free legal advice for everyone. /s, sort of

We should do to lawyers what 0vomitcare has done to doctors.


31 posted on 02/14/2018 7:25:45 AM PST by generally ( Don't be stupid. We have politicians for that.)
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To: reaganaut1

I once had a friend of the family (who has now passed away) who was a Judge in Iowa for 30+ years, tell me the court cannot guarantee you justice. The best it can do is offer a chance at justice. That was eye opening to me as a young man.


32 posted on 02/14/2018 7:29:01 AM PST by BBQToadRibs
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To: reaganaut1

There is no Constitution...thus no speedy trials. Besides, laws and procedures are only for the schmucks, not for the precious elite.


33 posted on 02/14/2018 7:30:31 AM PST by WKUHilltopper (WKU 2016 Boca Raton Bowl Champions)
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To: WASCWatch

They also only really care about getting paid and staying good with their fellow attorneys and judges. Your case is merely a paycheck to them.


34 posted on 02/14/2018 7:31:33 AM PST by CodeToad (CWII is coming. Arm Up! They Are! Easy?)
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To: reaganaut1

I know someone in jail and the expected trial is 2 years out at least


35 posted on 02/14/2018 7:33:39 AM PST by AppyPappy (Don't mistake your dorm political discussions with the desires of the nation)
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To: reaganaut1
Example: Court Clears Man Who Waited 7 Years for Trial on Pot Charges
36 posted on 02/14/2018 7:35:48 AM PST by Theoria (I should never have surrendered. I should have fought until I was the last man alive)
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To: G Larry
"Flynn plead guilty to a crime he didn’t commit just to stop the financial bleeding for he and his son."

So his guilty plea should be legally reversed, and the prosecutor who accepted it punished if it can be shown that he accepted it knowingly. In addition, Flynn should be compensated for his financial losses, both real and imputed.

37 posted on 02/14/2018 7:38:46 AM PST by I am Richard Brandon
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To: I am Richard Brandon

Yep, that’s my read.


38 posted on 02/14/2018 7:47:52 AM PST by G Larry (There is no great virtue in bargaining with the Devil)
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To: G Larry

Never plead guilty to a crime that you did not commit.


39 posted on 02/14/2018 7:58:37 AM PST by Twindad8
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To: daler
During jury selection, it's evident to me that anyone with an IQ over room temperature is quickly eliminated from consideration

Have you ever been in a jury pool or actually served on a jury?

I have served on two juries ... I'm pretty sure you wouldn't want to be in a room with a temperature number on any normal scale the same as my IQ. Kelvin, Fahrenheit, Celsius would all be grossly uncomfortable and ultimately fatal.

40 posted on 02/14/2018 8:06:01 AM PST by NorthMountain (... the right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed)
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