Posted on 01/18/2018 5:37:33 AM PST by Kaslin
Turn on any news program and youll hear about the threat of a government shutdown. Do you feel threatened? Democrats are already blaming Republicans, Republicans are already losing on messaging because thats what they do. But honestly, who cares? Shut it down.
We were told during the Obama and Clinton years that government shutdowns were the worst thing that could happen in this country; that they lead to irreparable economic damage. Of course, the stock market rose 1,000 points in one week, bringing the Dow Jones Industrial Average to another new record since Donald Trump became president, while this threat loomed over the country. So maybe that threat was overstated.
I dont want to see the government shuttered out of a desire to see thousands of government employees reminded of the fact that their jobs are non-essential, though its sad those types of jobs exist. I want to see it closed because the alternative will likely mean Republicans caved on some form of amnesty.
The reason for the threat of a government shutdown has nothing to do with fiscal responsibility, it has to do with Democrats favoring of illegal aliens over Americans. They wont support any spending measure to keep the government open unless it includes amnesty for the so-called DREAMers, adults who were brought to the United States as kids by their illegal alien parents.
Personally, I dont care about the DREAMers if they stay or go, it makes no difference. Id prefer, if theyre allowed to stay, that they not be granted citizenship but rather permanent residency. Id also prefer their kids not be granted citizenship. The violation of our national sovereignty should not be rewarded with the most precious status our country can bestow.
If that was all Democrats wanted, a deal could easily be struck. But, in spite of their public pronouncements about deep concern for these illegal aliens, enough is never enough for Democrats. They not only want legal status and a pathway to citizenship for the DREAMers, they want their parents to be allowed to stay. More than that, they want to maintain chain migration, which would mean millions more no- and low-skill people flooding into the country.
Democrats and progressive Republicans like Senators Lindsey Graham and Jeff Flake whine about breaking up families, like its the responsibility of the United States to keep them together. If these families dont want to be broken up they can all go home and get in line to immigrate legally together. We wouldnt be choosing to break them up, they would.
President Trump has already said hed sign pretty much anything Congress puts in front of him, but the horrible bipartisan deals that have been cut so far have been rejected because they havent been bipartisan, theyve been Democratic bills with a couple of Republicans on board.
But a real bill to address DREAMers, one with funding for a wall, that ends chain migration, etc., wont get any support from Democrats because theyd rather have more future Democratic Party voters than protect the borders of the United States. Theyd rather have cheap labor for their donor class so lawns get cut and hotels get cleaned than have those jobs for Americans. So shut it down.
To hell with them. Ive lived in Detroit and Baltimore and Im sick of my government prioritizing people in the country illegally over jobs for people in those bombed out, economically depressed cities. Im over seeing Americans nudged onto public assistance in the name of compassion while politicians proclaim the nobility of illegals who take jobs because they work. Im sick of all of it, shut it down.
Let these liberals explain to the American people why they favor non-citizens over citizens to the point theyre willing to close the government. Let them explain why its more important to protect illegal aliens than it is to protect Americans living in Baltimore, where the murder rate rivals third world hellholes. Let them explain to the American people why its more important to keep illegal alien families together than it is Americans have jobs so they can take care of theirs. Let them explain.
And let the American people see how there arent gates put up to keep World War II veterans from seeing their open-air memorial. Let them see how Democrats obstinance is portrayed by a media that will scramble to blame Republicans for it.
Shut it down, shut it all down. Lets have this discussion and decide, once and for all, if this is a nation of laws, or even a nation at all. If Donald Trump and congressional conservatives cant make that case, cant win that debate, maybe it isn't.
Most Americans are trained to think that without government we’re doomed. I’d love nothing more than a government shut down. Months would be nice.
Would be nice to see how many non-essentials are in the govt. N/A’s get paid regardless and most essential services will still get their ‘checks’. Correct me if I am wrong, please do.
N/A=N/E.
I saw a good tweet the other day: you know Trump is going to do the opposite of what Obama did — he won’t close unstaffed cemeteries &c that are never closed anyway, he won’t be boo-hoo-ing about how the country is going to screech to a halt ten different ways, and he won’t call the MSM three times a day to have them broadcast the plight of various hand-picked “shutdown victims”.
Can we lock up the house of representatives until they get their work done and shut them down for a year.
Previous shutdowns went by relatively unnoticed.
Well, except Obama’s weaponized use of the shutdown against veterans and national park visitors.
But don't worry, the FAKE NEWS industry will come through they will show crowds of women and children suffering en'masse even if they need to hire actors to get it done.
Film at 11:00!
Why don’t we just shut down Congress?
If we are going to have a real government "shutdown" these POS would be sent home without pay. Of course we all know they wouldn't do that now would they?
Which is more troubling?
The government shutting down or being invaded by millions of illegals?
I share Derek Hunter’s exasperation with the whole rotten system. Yes, shut down the whole monstrosity that is our modern federal government, starting with Congress. The Executive is only one fed branch. There are two others. The courts are largely useless anymore. Shut them down. Congress is a hotbed of deep corruption. Shut it down. Then shut down all the useless alphabet agencies. Only leave vital services open, such as border patrol, defense department, social security, Medicare, treasury and maybe CDC.
I disagree with the author. This would be an opportunity to shut down non-essential services (Department of Education, etc.). Going to be hard to explain why none of those things were missed during the shitdown.
Yes, this time it might be different. Let’s let the Demos shut-down the government to protect illegal immigration. How will that play in the 2018 mid-terms? Of course, the MSM will not call them on it, but the people should see this for what it is. JMHO.
I don’t remember who it was, but someone on Fox News said yesterday that the government will stay open, but the military would be the ones who would suffer, because their paychecks would be delayed.
Wow two different opinions
Actually, the House has passed all the spending bills and have sent them to the Senate. The problem is 60 votes in the Senate to end debate. Republican only have 51 votes and the Democrats have to provide the difference. They vote en block to block votes on final passage.
I think the 60 vote threshold will have to be eliminated for the Senate to function. It’s a different time where Senators represent their party over the interests of their constituents.
Amen Derek! We've had enough! If you (congress) can't do your job then GTFO and GTFH (explanation of acronyms available upon request). Shut it down!
Yep. Lots of crying and gnashing of teeth because the wimmins and chilrens can’t visit their favorite Department of PBS Programming.
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