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CA snowflake meltdown warning about an overblown choice made by people who want a hands-on experience in customizing their firearm.
1 posted on 01/07/2018 9:41:41 AM PST by T-Bird45
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This is likely yet another case where incompetent federal agents (who apparently are incapable of detecting actual crimes extant in the community and arresting the perps) find some poor sucker who they can convince to commit a crime and then arrest the poor sap for committing said crime.


2 posted on 01/07/2018 9:50:40 AM PST by House Atreides (BOYCOTT the NFL, its products and players 100% - PERMANENTLY)
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It is now legal to build your own rifle.
They want that changed.
This is the propaganda to get that accomplished.


3 posted on 01/07/2018 9:51:50 AM PST by Lurkinanloomin (Natural Born Citizen Means Born Here of Citizen Parents-Know Islam, No Peace-No Islam, Know Peace)
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The key here is “criminals.

Gun control only hurts law-abiding gun owners who follow the law, infringing on their God given Constitutional right to keep and bear guns and related weapons.

Gun control laws don’t work because criminals will always find a way to work around or bypass them. Only a moron would think gun control actually results in delaying or denying guns to criminals. You have to be wilfuly ignorant to believe that.

This article is just further proof that criminals disobey laws and gun control only impacts the honest and law-abiding.


4 posted on 01/07/2018 9:53:51 AM PST by Freedom_Is_Not_Free (What profits a man if he gains the world yet loses his soul?)
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There is only one legitimate reason to have an SN# on a firearm and that is so you can report a stolen gun in hopes it will be recovered. I can’t think of another good reason.


6 posted on 01/07/2018 9:58:49 AM PST by umgud
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I started reading this and thought it was about Leland Yee, the California State senator and gun control advocate who had a sideline business of selling guns.


8 posted on 01/07/2018 9:59:18 AM PST by Lurkina.n.Learnin (Wisdom and education are different things. Don't confuse them.)
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There have been ghost guns since there were guns


9 posted on 01/07/2018 10:01:55 AM PST by mylife ( The roar of the masses could be farts)
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Considering the present technology in machine shops today, they’re wanting to regulate a cat that’s already out of the bag. Once partial receivers are regulated effectively out of existence (who wants to pay transfer taxes and waiting periods on parts?) what’s to stop someone from just making receivers using a CNC machine?

And in the case of the shooter in the county north of me, neighbors had been trying to get deputies and prosecutors to do something about the guy for months. This wasn’t a surprise event to them, it was expected.


10 posted on 01/07/2018 10:04:34 AM PST by kingu (Everything starts with slashing the size and scope of the federal government.)
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Time to buy more 80% lowers. The Demonrats are coming for this, too, just like everything else.


12 posted on 01/07/2018 10:17:45 AM PST by backwoods-engineer (The GOP-Democrat-Media Uniparty must be destroyed.)
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More gun control over an extraordinary small number of law abiding citizens who make their own stuff.

What about Ghost Cars or Ghost planes...


13 posted on 01/07/2018 10:17:58 AM PST by Vendome (I've Gotta Be Me - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wH-pk2vZG2M)
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In the turd world they would set up a forge and MAKE the parts for AKs, that’s why they rattle so bad.


15 posted on 01/07/2018 10:19:20 AM PST by ichabod1 (People don't want to believe it be what it be but it is.)
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I didn’t read the article, but the author seems to believe “traceability” is the magical elixir that will cure all crime ills.

There was a thread yesterday showing that a very low fraction of murders in Chicago result in conviction (less than 10%, I think).

So, how, exactly, does this magical traceability help solve capital crimes? I just did some google searches on this and found no data — just some articles on how crime labs can theoretically trace guns to solve crime.

Methinks the author has watched far too many episodes of CSI SVU.


16 posted on 01/07/2018 10:21:01 AM PST by ProtectOurFreedom
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More invented bullshyte to manipulate people into confiscatory policy and leftist totalitarian control. Here me now, lefties:BURN!


17 posted on 01/07/2018 10:22:04 AM PST by Caipirabob (Communists...Socialists...Fascists & AntiFa...Democrats...Traitors... Who can tell the difference?)
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Give me a laptop, a 3-D printer, and a small milling machine.......what is it you want again?


18 posted on 01/07/2018 10:26:23 AM PST by yadent
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I don’t understand.. aren’t receivers treated as if they were guns?

My understanding is that you can’t build a gun as described.
Unless the machine shop was manufacturing the receivers themselves.


21 posted on 01/07/2018 11:00:31 AM PST by Toughluck_freeper
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Yes, and the left makes gun laws that do nothing to stop this, while harassing non-violent honest citizens.


23 posted on 01/07/2018 11:14:58 AM PST by I want the USA back (If free speech is taken away, dumb and silent we are led, like sheep to the slaughter: G Washington)
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I’d like to get an 80% lower, but it seems silly to buy it on the internet with a credit card.


24 posted on 01/07/2018 11:25:31 AM PST by MileHi (Liberalism is an ideology of parasites, hypocrites, grievance mongers, victims, and control freaks.)
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When they are selling batches of 100, they aren’t ‘customizing their firearm’.

And when one sells to someone who is stating that they want to break the law, one is too stupid to own guns.


25 posted on 01/07/2018 11:29:07 AM PST by PAR35
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CA to ban self made ghost guns that don’t exist.


26 posted on 01/07/2018 11:38:01 AM PST by SkyDancer ( ~ Just Consider Me A Random Fact Generator ~)
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Weapons that cannot be traced by police. Ok, so what? How does tracing it help in any way? IIRC most firearms used in crimes are stolen or otherwise obtained illegally. So tracing would seem to be rather pointless other than for statistical analysis of previous LE failures.

If it is illegal for someone to possess a firearm then it is illegal for them to buy/build/steal one. Making the building process tougher, more expensive, or downright illegal isn't going to stop the criminal already determined to break numerous other laws. But it will further the gun control agenda. That's what this is really about - control.

28 posted on 01/07/2018 11:55:10 AM PST by ThunderSleeps (Doing my part to help make America great again!)
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The answer to this menace to society is to ban machine shops.


31 posted on 01/07/2018 12:03:25 PM PST by Rebelbase (The urge to save humanity is almost always only a false-face for the urge to rule it.-- H.L. Mencken)
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