Posted on 12/14/2017 11:10:38 AM PST by Red Badger
As I recall the congress authorized the activities in Iraq. The current actions are conducted under that authorization
You get real. I don’t care about international law. But i DO care about US law. There is no congressional authorization for a US war in Syria.
Essentially acting as a dictator, Obama and the intel community and generals launched a war there. Surrounded by neocons, Trump has continued along and let them continue the anti Assad moves.
Guess you never met a war you didn’t like. Nothing there is worth an American dollar. But go ahead and cheerlead Hillary and Obamas war.
Syria is not Iraq.
Yes indeed. Well, if this is what USA has come to - a wonderful military which we deploy anywhere and almost everywhere for no good reason whatsoever -( or, under obama., to protect and assist enemy forces ? And I’m no pacifist or isolationist - but something sure doesn’t look right. Even now that obsmmy is gone
Yes indeed. Well, if this is what USA has come to - a wonderful military which we deploy anywhere and almost everywhere for no good reason whatsoever -( or, under obama., to protect and assist enemy forces ? And I’m no pacifist or isolationist - but something sure doesn’t look right. Even now that obsmmy is gone For instance, if our fine usaf were bombing the entire hezbellah and plo and Hamas Muslim murder gangs straight to Hell - I’d be 10000 percent in support! But chasing Russian planes in Syria?
OTOH, the SU-25 Frogfoot has no real A2A capability. If AWACS said they were un-escorted then the Raptors may have been ordered to demonstrate like this.
****the entire Syrian civil war was a farce that we cooked up to remove Assad for some bizarre reason only a neocon could understand****
The Syrian civil war was part of the “Arab Spring” that was concocted by Obama as a way to entrench the Caliphate. The only involvement of the “neocons” was as maybe an interested observer, because they surely didn’t oppose it.
Thanks Red Badger. "Whattaya say we cut across, it'll be shorter, and I don't see anyone around..."
That said, I would think any pilot detecting a possible enemy firing flares would think that engagement is imminent.
You confuse lines drawn on a map with actual cultural divisions.
Iraq is an artificial concept ginned up by colonialists. There is not really a state of Iraq.The development of Syria Iraq ignored existing cultural boundaries existing within the Ottoman Empire. The current war will restore a Sunni nation and a Kurd nation. Perhaps what will end up is a nation in which Sunni’s and Kurds can coexist.
You are also forgetting that perhaps the primary purpose of a formal declaration of war was to put limitations on what Americans can do to oppose it: that whole "giving aid and comfort" thing in the Constitution.
In any case, the strategic reasoning involved is sound: prevent the Iranian backed Syrian regime from offering the mullahs a pathway to the Mediterranean.
Since Hezbollah and Iran are either terrorists or terrorist supporters, I could argue that the intervention is justified by the post-9/11 AUMF.
Attention Tin Foil Hats:
The Russians are there to prop up Assad and the US is there to fight ISIS.
The Russians and US agreed on a “deconfliction zone”, so there would be less chance of aerial accidents.
Salute to tinfoilists.
The enemy isn’t gone— one enemy (ISIS) is more or less defeated, but replaced by others (Hezbollah, Iran).
obvious that some rouge elements inside pentagon are trying to provoke a war
More here:
After crossing the de-confliction line, the Russian Su-25s “were promptly intercepted by two F-22A Raptors providing air cover for partner ground forces conducting operations to defeat ISIS,” Air Forces Central Command spokesman Lt. Col. Damien Pickart told CNN.
“The F-22s conducted multiple maneuvers to persuade the Su-25s to depart our de-conflicted airspace, including the release of chaff and flares in close proximity to the Russian aircraft and placing multiple calls on the emergency channel to convey to the Russian pilots that they needed to depart the area,” he added.
Pickart accused the Russian pilots of dangerous flying during the encounter.
“One Su-25 flew close enough to an F-22A that it had to aggressively maneuver to avoid a midair collision,” he said, adding that “during the incident, a Russian Su-35 also flew across the river and was shadowed closely by one of the F-22As.”
He said the encounter lasted approximately 40 minutes before the Russian aircraft flew to the west side of the river, saying officers from the US-led coalition contacted the Russians on the de-confliction line “to de-escalate the situation and avert a strategic miscalculation.”
http://www.cnn.com/2017/12/14/politics/us-f-22-intercept-russian-jets-syria/index.html
The terrified SU-25s quickly fled the area, as did the terrified F-22s when the Su-35s showed up.
Sort of like US and Mexico, I get it now.
The F-22, should have fired yellow paint balls!!!!
Oh crap, I had my number changing glasses on. Lol!!!
F22
Nope - twin engine design. Definitely Raptors.
Now, why we'd announce the presence of *stealth* aircraft with flares - that's downright puzzling. Sounds more like a job for some F-16s.
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