Posted on 12/10/2017 3:11:44 PM PST by BunnySlippers
The so-called Thomas Fire is only 15 percent contained, now threatening the city of Santa Barbara and the nearby coastal town of Carpinteria, and is on track to become one of the worst wildfires in California history.
It has already destroyed 583 structures and scorched 173,000 acres, the authorities say. New evacuations were ordered in Carpinteria, which been under fire threat for days.
The new evacuation zone extends within two miles of the Santa Barbara Zoo.
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Yes, regardless of the fact that FR is actually in California. And it is so stunningly BEAUTIFUL here! ;o)
The same crowd that wouldn’t lift a finger when we were getting overrun with illegals now think it’s cute to wish the inferno on us.
The Santa Anas blow west OFF the desert, bringing dry air and strong winds, but the coastal areas of Southern California are simply not deserts by any definition. It’s the same climate as the Greek and Italian coastal areas. Are you going to tell everyone that those are deserts?
Death Valley and Maricopa are in the desert. Santa Barbara and San Diego are not.
You’re correct......there are solid folks in California.....few. So it difficult to have much sympathy.
See post 24 for a prime example.
God Bless California! Prayers up!
I’m in Arizona, but the way I understand it is different.
First the whole area is arid so the air and winds are dry unless a wet low is pushing winds and instead these are generally driven by a High north of the area. The high brings winds from the higher elevation in the inland mountains down from those elevations and as they come to lower elevations they heat up from compression as all winds coming off mountain ranges do.
What is different here is that there are coastal canyons at the weathered west side of these mountain ranges. These canyons act like venturi or puckered lips when you whistle, increasing the wind speed even more. So you have winds that are 20 to 40 at high elevations becoming 40 to 70 as they blow out into the low coastal lands.
This hits the dry arid coastal California lands that have wet-land controls on what can be cleared or burned and you get fires that rage from being wind driven.
Now in the African Sahara desert you might have some winds impacted by mountains, but in general you have equatorial winds driven over vast deserts that just get more and more dry — not very intense in speed — very dry.
I hope my arm chair attempt helps.
I don’t hate people anywhere based on their voting patterns. I am amazed, often disappointed and sometimes fearful of the direction they want the country to go. But I don’t hope they die a horrible death or lose their homes in flood or fire, or the flash of a thermonuclear bomb.
Some here revel in those possibilities.
“Mutual aid from Mexico?”
Mexico actually does send firefighters to the U.S.
We live up here in the State of Jefferson....We were under mandatory evacuation twice. One fire was literallhy across the roads from us. Hillsides engulfed in a matter of minutes in a fire-nado that just devoured a Hilltop. Luckily for us it didn’t cross the hold line road and the winds were favorable, for us....not for hundreds of others that lost their homes.
We here in the Northstate do not disaparge those that lose their towns due to Tornados. Although, I must wonder why residential developments are not built underground with earthen berms and whatnot... We here in the Northstate do not disparage those states that have massive flooding or suffer from hurricanes or other natural disasters.
California has diverse biomes. It is not all desert, although there are parts that are. It is not all mountain, although there are parts that are. It is not all green, although there are parts that are. You get the idea. It politics have swung from left to right to center to marxist. Currently we are in the marxist swing. It can’t last forever. But there are many of us that can not afford to leave and go live at whatever glorious piece of paradise you live.
Sometimes if a person doesn’t have anything nice to say it might be a good idea to say nothing.
No I don’t live in SoCal but in Phoenix, another ludicrous place to build a city. I have been traveling to all of California extensively for business travel for over 20 years though. I have felt the Santa Anna winds many times and, having grown up in fire-prone, high-desert southeastern Montana, have looked at the overgrown brush on the hillsides and cannot help but thinking every time “Holy shit!”
California is a beautiful state that is suffering the societal hangover caused by good times breeding weak people. Moonbeam Brown is a symptom of the rot affecting our leadership in this country. A gaggle of magical-thinking loons is running our country. They cannot think they just feel.
“Believe it or not, about half the people on the forum literally hate California and want people here to die.”
Gross hyperbole.
“About half”??? So you took a poll??
“Want people to die”?? Not believable that any great number think that way.
“Hate California”?
Not really. Hate what the Democrats have done, and are doing to it? Yes.
Full disclosure: I grew up there and still have relatives there, but even they know they are not enough reason for me to move back there.
Is Santa Barbara a sanctuary city?
Is Santa Barbara a sanctuary city?
Amen to that.
Santa Barbara has not filed to be a sanctuary city.
I kinda sorta got the impression that the Sahara has a lot less combustible material. Sand doesn’t burn as well as dried scrub brush.
It’s not hyperbole. I was going to write eighty percent but I backed off to stay conservative.
State of Jefferson huh?
Okay, I won’t say anything.
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