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Daily Mail ^ | 12/10/17 | Keith Griffith

[dragnet2]

Tell me, how long would the water there last 25 million people, if S.CA imported water was shut off?

5 minutes? 20 minutes?☺

[dragnet2]

So.CA is not a desert huh?

Here is the Cahuenga Pass between Hollywood and the Universal Studios.

[dragnet2]

Above is a historic photograph of Cahuenga Pass between Hollywood and the Universal Studios.

The same area of the Cahuenga Pass after the OC/LA basin started importing trillions of gallons of water.

Providing you with historic documentary evidence, it's clear the region was a desert before the imported water. I rest my case.☺

[SoCal Pubbie]

Truly you have a dizzying intellect! I urge you to share your findings with those chamber of commerce stooges at NOAA, Cal Tech, and the UC system. Show them those pictures and then rest your case. That’ll show ‘em!

[dragnet2]

I don't need to convince anyone. The historic documentary evidence is pretty clear.

Btw, ya never did say, if they shut off the imported water in the OC/LA basin, how long do ya think the water there would last 25,000,000 water consuming people?

I'd give it about 2 hours.☺

[SoCal Pubbie]

I don’t know, but it wouldn’t take long for those areas that rely on irrigation (not the foothills and other natural areas) to return to the natural state of vegetation, which by the way, is not identical to the desert. I posted a LONG time ago that the area is overbuilt in terms of sustainability through local water resources. Most major cities are, and even if there’s enough water, there’s not enough food grown locally, or some other resource needed for modern urban life. Hell, ancient Rome couldn’t have supported its population two thousand years ago without aqueducts bringing water from other areas.

My only issue is the contention that the Southern California coastal plain is situated in a desert. It’s demonstrably not, under any definition except yours.

[dragnet2]

25 million would suck up any natural water here fast. Most people on the coastal desert or Mediterranean paradise as you refer to it, don't know how to conserve and waste most everything they touch as opposed to some folks I know who live in the high desert in a nice high end view home and they and many of their neighbors have made conserving and providing their own electricity into fun hobby that saves them $$. They're very into it.

In any event, saying the coastal basin is overbuilt and over populated is colossal understatement. That's the whole problem. Too many people in too little space in the coastal basin. A moratorium on building homes/condo/apartments should have been enacted years ago. The know the freeways have been gridlocked for decades and they continue to build more apartments, condos etc. It's a really a mess and really flat out embarrassing in regards to planning, development or just basic thinking. Profits regardless of consequences.

But they'll solve it all in the OC/LA basin eventually when they eliminate or significantly restrict the use of private vehicles. They'll explain they had no choice because everything was nearly gridlocked 24/7.☺

It's like when they tell people in S. CA to conserve electricity on hot days in summer And the people cooperated cutting back significantly. And when everyone cut back, they turned around and raise the electric rates. When is the last time they built a new hydro electric plant? And don't even mention nuclear. It's an embarrassment.

Electric rates should be really cheap. But like everything else, not here in CA.

Don't get me wrong. It's a love hate thing with me regarding CA. From the desert, to the sea, to the Sierras, I love the whole state but hate big gov controlling leftist who want to tax/regulate/control anything that gets their attention. So bad millions of good folk flee the state instead of staying put.

I can say with confidence, only people in power with bad intentions would create that kind of environment for it's own citizen tax payers, and then turn around and give aid and comfort to those who've entered our country illegally.