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Duterte to ask Trump to return historic spoils of war taken in 1901
CBS News ^ | 11/11/2017 | JILLIAN HUGHES, JACQUELINE ALEMANY

Posted on 11/12/2017 4:45:49 AM PST by DFG

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To: BeauBo

Return Subic Bay to the Navy? Seems like a fair trade.


21 posted on 11/12/2017 5:45:23 AM PST by Uncle Sam 911
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To: JonPreston; BBB333

Great connection! LOVE that ‘dramatization’!


22 posted on 11/12/2017 5:50:36 AM PST by originalbuckeye ('In a time of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act'- George Orwell)
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To: Uncle Sam 911

Give the man his ding-a-ling-a -ling!


23 posted on 11/12/2017 5:51:07 AM PST by PrairieLady2
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To: Uncle Sam 911

Give the man his ding-a-ling-a -ling!


24 posted on 11/12/2017 5:51:08 AM PST by PrairieLady2
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To: Chewbarkah
Balangiga bells
25 posted on 11/12/2017 5:53:48 AM PST by Theoria (I should never have surrendered. I should have fought until I was the last man alive)
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To: vladimir998
We seized church bells? Return them. We should NEVER have taken items that belong to churches.

I agree. That was my first reaction. If all he wants are some church bells then Trump should give them to him. We have bigger fish to fry.

26 posted on 11/12/2017 5:58:40 AM PST by plain talk
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To: PrairieLady2

What a great headline!

“Duerte asks Trump to give back his ding-a-ling”

“Duerte asks small favor: return my ding-a-ling”


27 posted on 11/12/2017 6:00:32 AM PST by Made In The USA (Next thing you know, 'ol Jed's a millionaire)
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To: Mollypitcher1

When Corregidor fell there were 60,000 Filipino and 15,000 American soldiers there.

On the Bataan Death March an estimated 300-650 American soldiers were killed or died of other causes.
An estimated 2,500-10,000 Filipino soldiers were killed or died.
Many prisoners were able to slip away and joined guerrilla units later.

By wars end the guerrilla movement controlled 60% of the countryside.
The guerrilla units harassed the Japanese and provided valuable Intel to US military planners.

At one point guerrillas captured several ranking Japanese officers as well as documents that made it clear they were aware of the planned US landing at Mindanao as well as Japanese naval assets available.
The Japanese instituted a scorched earth policy chasing that guerrilla band. Razing villages and killing every Filipino they encountered.
The guerrillas were forced to hand over their captives to stop the bloodshed. The intel documents were smuggled aboard a US submarine allowing the landing to be changed to Letye.

By the end of the war there were 277 recognised guerrilla units with over 260,000 men who were supplied by the US by submarine or whatever they could capture from the Japanese.

The Filipino resistance joked that by wars end there wasn’t a curtain rod left in the Philippine Islands because they had been donated to be cut down and used to make bullets to fight the Japanese.

For decades after the war a Filipino soldier was chosen each month.
At morning roll call when the name Douglas MacArthur was called the chosen soldier would take one step forward, loudly announce Present In Spirit and step back into line.

Give them their bells back.
They earned it.


28 posted on 11/12/2017 6:01:32 AM PST by oldvirginian (The older i get the less i care what people think of me, therefore the more i enjoy life.)
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To: WalterSkinner

“..need to remind him of the Bataan Death March—”

Probably not such a good idea, given that far, far more Filipinos died in that march and subsequent imprisonment than Americans.


29 posted on 11/12/2017 6:04:38 AM PST by ought-six (Multiculturalism is national suicide, and political correctness is the cyanide capsule.)
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To: Theoria

That was interesting...

So Bill Clinton told the Philippine government to pound sand when they asked for their bells back...

So should Trump...

When CNN run the story of how unreasonable and mean Trump is...

Kaboom...”So you are saying Bill Clinton is unreasonable and mean too”


30 posted on 11/12/2017 6:04:47 AM PST by Popman (My sin was great, Your love was greater  What could separate us now…e)
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To: Chewbarkah

Per the article:

“In 1904, an Army unit that was not involved in the battle brought two of the 600-pound bells captured from the church to F. E. Warren Air Force Base in Cheyenne, Wyoming. Today they’re on display as part of a memorial at the base, which houses 150 intercontinental ballistic missiles. Due to the high level of security on the base, the memorial is closed to the public. The third bell is held at Camp Red Cloud, an Army outpost in South Korea.”


31 posted on 11/12/2017 6:16:17 AM PST by DFG
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To: Theoria

That’s a good article—thanks for posting the link. The bells are all in the hands of the US military, so giving the bells back should be physically doable. Except—the article says an Act of Congress might be required. Ugh.


32 posted on 11/12/2017 6:24:47 AM PST by Chewbarkah
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To: BBB333; originalbuckeye

HA! That is exactly what I thought of. It still cracks me up!


33 posted on 11/12/2017 6:27:04 AM PST by JonPreston
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To: AdmSmith; AnonymousConservative; Berosus; Bockscar; cardinal4; ColdOne; Convert from ECUSA; ...

Thanks DFG. Three historic church bells from Balangiga, 116 years later? Pack 'em and ship 'em.
34 posted on 11/12/2017 6:33:14 AM PST by SunkenCiv (www.tapatalk.com/groups/godsgravesglyphs/, forum.darwincentral.org, www.gopbriefingroom.com)
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To: DFG

Given that

Send them back

But get something we want in return

Duterte is problematic

Wildly popular and is on the offensive against Islam since he’s annihilated the drugs gangs

But he’s unstable to say the least


35 posted on 11/12/2017 6:35:05 AM PST by wardaddy (Virtue signalers should be shot on sight...conservative ones racked and hanged then fed to dogs)
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To: vladimir998; Chewbarkah; plain talk; ought-six
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36 posted on 11/12/2017 6:36:17 AM PST by SunkenCiv (www.tapatalk.com/groups/godsgravesglyphs/, forum.darwincentral.org, www.gopbriefingroom.com)
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To: DFG

Bells, as from Christian Churches. I can see that.

I wonder if this is something that has been negotiated in advance, since heads of state meetings generally are, and what might be on our side of the deal.


37 posted on 11/12/2017 6:39:04 AM PST by 9YearLurker
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To: Chewbarkah

Agreed.


38 posted on 11/12/2017 6:39:34 AM PST by 9YearLurker
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To: SunkenCiv

Trump has indeed praised his actions on this front.


39 posted on 11/12/2017 6:40:24 AM PST by 9YearLurker
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To: oldvirginian

I enjoy the story of Maj. Wendell Fertig, US Army Corps of Engineers, who organized one of the guerrilla groups. When Fertig’s group grew to be a formidable force, he promoted himself to Brigadier General. At the end of the war, he commanded over 20,000 guerrillas.


40 posted on 11/12/2017 6:50:17 AM PST by Ben Hecks
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