Posted on 10/16/2017 4:10:10 PM PDT by SJackson
See my 54. Hayek nailed it over 70 years ago.
Great post.
I call all totalitarian governments and philosophies Leftist Totalitarian Fascism and they have as a primary goal that is named in my taglne.
“Leftists today are speaking as if they plan to commence to commit genocide against conservatives.”
I think Jews would disagree.
I couldn't care less. Facts speak for themselves. The Third Reich murdered 11.5 million people in death camps. The USSR systematically murdered more people than the Third Reich, and the People's Republic of China systematically murdered more people than the USSR. Communism created far more death, destruction, and misery around the world than National Socialism ever dreamt of.
Regarding your tagline: I strongly believe in 2A, and I’m not getting on the bus to re-education camp.
One does not have to get in a bus to be genocided. One can be nuked from space, one can be MOABed, one can be killed by drones. Our government is coming up with all sorts of measures of population control. 1984 is here.
I have said, and also written opinions in newspapers, that the new democrat party is the national socialist democrat party of the USA.
Follow the history of the German national socialists party and anyone can come to the same opinion.
The Germans first found a common enemy by accusations through the news industry-jews, etc. Then they took over the education system-if you didnt belong to the system you were taken out and disappeared, then they took over the healthcare industry-death was their focus. Anyone who was mentally unstable, were put to death. Then the brownshirts-ANTIFA here.
It all fits. And the last thing that needs to be done is the disarming of the people and the take over of the military.
National socialism is the mafia on steroids. Communism is the same. A satanic cult,
I like WWII history. When studying Barbarossa I never know which side are the “good guys” and which are the “bad guys”.
Lenin encouraged ethnic tensions and seccesionism for the very same reason leftists in US are fueling BLM and alikes. Divide and conquer. And he was a German spy on top of that. Restoration of Polish sovereignty, seccession of Finland and Baltic states weren’t bad at all but it was exactly what Germans wanted in WWI.
Before making a substantive comment, I have one quibble: it is an absolutely false statement or point of view to believe that the Nazis were right wing. The name of the party, translated into English, is the National Socialist German Workers’ Party. Emphasis on Socialist. The only real difference between the Nazis and the Communists is that the Communists believed in fomenting revolution everywhere at once, whereas the Nazis believed in concentrating in one nation and then moving on to others. In terms of the effect on the population, there was no real difference, with the sole exception of the genocidal policies of the Nazis. However, Stalin proved that the Russian Left this also had genocidal policies toward ethnic minorities. What he did to the Ukrainian farmers was horrific, and there is ample evidence that he planned to deport millions of Jews to Siberia shortly before his death. So, again, there is no difference between these Leftists, other than how they present themselves to the outside world.
Now on to substance.
I, just like the author of this piece, had relatives who were victims of both the Nazis and the Communists. On my mother’s side, roughly 100 distant cousins, aunts and uncles were murdered by those German Leftist bastards. On my father’s side, my father’s paternal grandfather had everything that he ever worked for stolen from him in the early 1920s (including a water distribution business and 14 houses that he built with his sons), and was later beaten so badly in prison in 1937, as a 74 year old man, that he died shortly after he was released. In other words, they murdered him. [As an aside, I remember that when my grandfather came back from a visit to his family in the Soviet Union in 1969, and he cried like a baby. I did not know why at the time, but I do know now that he first found out on this trip what had happened to his father]. The rest of my father’s family, with the exception of my grandfather and one of his older brothers, were stuck in a gigantic open-air prison known as the Soviet Union for roughly 75 years. There was literally no single day when they did not wonder whether the NKVD or the KGB would come and do to them what they had done to my great-grandfather. That is the record of the Russian Leftists, at least insofar as my family is concerned.
I have studied these people (Leftists) for my entire life. As far as I have been able to discern, the only difference between them is that the Russian ones were more patient and therefore more dangerous. They had, and implemented, long-range plans that are still bearing poisonous fruit throughout the world. They infiltrated American and British universities and the media in the 1920s and ‘30s, and we are far from done in terms of the effects of how this mass poisoning of the Western mind has affected our society. They set up puppet regimes throughout the world, many of which are still in existence, and still murdering and torturing people by the millions. They funded, armed and trained dozens of terrorist organizations throughout the world, and those groups are still murdering people by the hundreds or thousands each year. While the German Leftists were more dangerous on the surface, and certainly more brutish and fear-inspiring, in the long run the Russian Leftists left a far worst Legacy for humanity than the German ones ever did.
For the record, I despise the Communists as much as I despise the Nazis. The same goes for any person who advocates for or defends the Communists, just like those who advocate for or defend the Nazis. They are two sides of the same coin, both evil personified.
But the entire view, or con, was that the Jews were the world’s problem and were to be exterminated at all costs. If Hitler had just banned them from country, and kept pushing them as he attacked and took over neighbors, he might have gotten away with it as he could have stalled the allies from shutting him down a little longer and quite possibly accomplishing world domination. They were close as it was.
rwood
“in some countries even more appeal”
A lot of the countries in the 30’s were in the stages of economical problems thanks to the US market crash and the depression that followed. Probably the one thing, and maybe the only thing, the Nazi regime accomplished they tended to create a strong industrial niche. Many of the countries in Europe at that time were grasping at straws and Germany provided many of them.
rwood
Near the end of Soviet Union hardline Commies were known as Conservatives and centrist Socialists like Gorbachev were called Liberals there.
Stalin himself didn’t believe he was far left. Trotskites were called ‘left-lean’ and they were the enemy no less than ‘fascists’.
Socialism is defined as a political and economic theory of social organization that advocates that the means of production, distribution, and exchange should be owned or regulated by the community as a whole. Communism is a political theory derived from Karl Marx, advocating class war and leading to a society in which all property is publicly owned and each person works and is paid according to their abilities and needs. And Nazism is defined as the political principles of the National Socialist German Workers’ Party. Literally a regime of control.
True communism and socialism can’t sustain themselves if from human nature alone. The will to improve from the lower on the caste violates it’s principles. And Nazism was brutal and was it’s own executioner. That and Hitler got greedy.
So as long as China stays within themselves, and doesn’t try to push their weight around, they will survive. But they are really getting into economy problems now as scrambling to prop up the country’s growth and protect its near-universal employment, China’s leaders have embraced monetary and fiscal stimulus measures, causing the country’s outstanding debt to balloon to almost 250% of gross domestic product. That can’t continue as the vast majority of Beijing’s investment have been financed by debt, and China has used its control over the banking sector to shape the cost of capital and determine where and how fast it flows. We, here, have also been slow to understand the principles of a free market. Especially the elitist liberals. That’s why we exceed $20T thanks to a boost during the Obama administration who added $7.917 trillion, a 68 percent increase, in seven years which has pushed everyone into panic. China is heading the same way.
rwood
“Commies treat everyone like Nazis treat Jews.”
Interesting perspective. Hmmmm.
“They both suck, are equally odious, and have no place in this Country.”
I might contend one is worse than the other. But generally agree.
“The 7.62 Solution.”
Sounds a lot like “Option E”. And we know who came up with that.
At that point in time, not sure there were any good guys, though I suppose our support for the Brits would be the decisive factor.
You can ask Ukranians but they often rewrite history. Most refuse to accept the reality that Ukranians chose communism and Soviet subjugation in 1921 rather than joining Poland
Facts weren't relevant to Hitler and his cult. To put things in perspective, Gypsies/Roma/Sinti, who were targetted for extermination by the Nazis, are actual Aryans, whereas Germanic peoples are not.
Marx was first Jewish. His father converted later with the whole family. Matter of fact, I think his grandfather was a rabbi.
Marx never really believed in religion and thought that it should bow to philosophy. As far as his being antisemitic. that I do not know, nor do I care.
Karl Heinrich Marx was born into a comfortable middle-class home in Trier on the river Moselle in Germany on May 5, 1818. He came from a long line of rabbis on both sides of his family and his father, a man who knew Voltaire and Lessing by heart, had agreed to baptism as a Protestant so that he would not lose his job as one of the most respected lawyers in Trier. At the age of seventeen, Marx enrolled in the Faculty of Law at the University of Bonn.
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