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If Liberals Truly Cared About Gun Control, They Would Support Closing U.S. Borders
Townhall.com ^ | October 16, 2017 | Justin Haskins

Posted on 10/16/2017 7:52:46 AM PDT by Kaslin

Since the tragic shooting in Las Vegas, liberals in Hollywood, Washington, D.C., and the news media have been demanding stricter gun-control laws. Some, including The New York Times’ Bret Stephens, has even called for repealing the Second Amendment as the “only way” to reform an industry “that most of the developed world rightly considers nuts.”

 The debate is often cast by those on the left as one between those who don’t care about murder, death, and destruction and those who want to stop it tomorrow with “common sense” gun-control laws. But upon closer examination, it’s clear liberals know the kind of gun control they are constantly advocating for is nothing more than a way to score political points with their donors, because if they truly wanted to enact strict limits on legal gun ownership, they would also have to shut down America’s massive land borders—a position the left has been staunchly opposed to for decades.

 Regardless of whether you support enhancing border security at the U.S.-Mexico border, one thing is certain: In its current state, it’s relatively easy to transport illegal weapons in and out of Mexico. According to a 2016 report by the U.S. Government Accountability Office,70,000 guns recovered from crime scenes in Mexico from 2009 to 2014 originated in the United States, including numerous “high caliber rifles,” which are “the preferred weapon used by drug trafficking organizations.”

 A 2013 study published by the University of California at San Diego’s Trans-Border Institute and the Igarape Institute estimated an average of 253,000 firearms cross the U.S.-Mexico border annually.

 Although most of these weapons are believed to be brought from the United States into Mexico, if liberals were to successfully ban and destroy most guns (a task that is likely impossible at any point in the near future), the numerous organized crime groups trafficking in illicit drugs in northern Mexico would have an entirely new black market to take advantage of. And if it’s possible to transport hundreds of thousands of guns and millions of pounds of drugs in and out of the United States, how difficult would it be to transport millions of guns?

 Anti-gun liberals consistently argue that the primarily reason cities and states with harsh gun-control laws continue to face extreme gun-related violence is because guns are being illegally purchased by criminals who obtain weapons in states with few limits. Such a position, whether it’s true or not, when logically extended to a situation in which there are strict national gun-control laws, would require completing closing, at the very least, the U.S.-Mexico border. Otherwise, all the left would be doing is empowering foreign and domestic criminal organizations at the expense of the thousands of gun shops currently in operation throughout the country.

 Oh, and let’s not forget about our friendly, gun-loving neighbors to the north. Canada, a nation of only 35 million, has between 10 million and 20 million firearms, and earlier in 2017, the Canadian government reported there are believed to be more than a million prohibited guns in the country, including 183,000 fully automatic guns.

 Many Canadian officials believe most of the illegal guns in Canada entered the nation from the United States. This shouldn’t come as a surprise. As the Washington Post noted in 2016, “The country’s 5,526-mile border with the United States makes smuggling into Canada a relatively easy game, particularly in the Great Lakes and St. Lawrence River regions.”

 The evidence is overwhelming: Gun smuggling is already happening on both U.S. borders, thus proving any gun-control scheme must be accompanied by the very same border security measures liberals oppose. This effectively means anti-gun, open-border liberals, including many Democrats in Congress, are either fools or are being dishonest about the policies they say they support. I’m willing to bet it’s the latter.

 In fairness to many anti-gun liberals, I’m sure they oppose most private gun ownership across the entire world, not just in the United States. If they had it their way, there wouldn’t be any guns in Central America, Mexico, Canada, or anywhere else either. Of course, to accomplish that, the United Nations (or some other world government body) would need significantly more power or influence—another truly horrifying goal liberals aren’t shy about espousing.



TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Culture/Society; Editorial
KEYWORDS: aliens; banglist; border; guns; secondamentment

1 posted on 10/16/2017 7:52:46 AM PDT by Kaslin
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To: Kaslin
The New York Times’ Bret Stephens, has called for repealing the Second Amendment as the “only way” to reform an industry “that most of the developed world rightly considers nuts.”

No one cares what "most of the developed world rightly considers nuts."

The 2nd Amendment was written precisely to protect us against tyrants Bret Stephens and his ilk at the NY Times:

Move to Cuba is you want your lefty paradise.

2 posted on 10/16/2017 8:01:17 AM PDT by Bon of Babble (In-a-Gadda-Da-Vida, Baby!!)
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To: Kaslin

Gun control - which should be an academic subject taught at the high school level.

Gun control is defined as learning about the history, care, feeding, and grooming of a sidearm, and the necessary skills to aim, fire, and reload the weapon, to the end of being able to hit a designated target in a consistent manner, and for a specific purpose. Definition of target and accuracy of aim are the important aspects here. The actual performance of firing the weapon depends on control of body motion that would compromise the accuracy of the aim, such as sighting down carefully on target, suppressing breath, and squeezing off the trigger smoothly, mot jerking it back.

Requires coordination developed through repeated practice.


3 posted on 10/16/2017 8:03:02 AM PDT by alloysteel (Guilty until proven innocent, while denying defense, justice, mercy or any appeal. No pardon, ever.)
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To: Kaslin

BOTH parties have been supporting a 30 year policy of non-enforcement of laws and borders with the purpose of permanently changing the demographic makeup of this country.


4 posted on 10/16/2017 8:06:31 AM PDT by Lurkinanloomin (Natural Born Citizen Means Born Here Of Citizen Parents - Know Islam, No Peace -No Islam, Know Peace)
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To: Kaslin

They should have been screaming about fast and furious as well.


5 posted on 10/16/2017 8:08:45 AM PDT by proust (Since a politician never believes what he says, he is quite surprised to be taken at his word.)
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To: Kaslin

Or people on drugs

If the elites REALLY CARED about us, they would defend the borders vigorously. Keeping out the riff raff, criminals, drugs, guns, illegals, “birthright babies” et al


6 posted on 10/16/2017 8:15:01 AM PDT by A_Former_Democrat ("I am SpartaLee" Hey, NFL, why didn't you any of you bold guys hire Kaepernick? #GoodbyeGoodell)
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To: Kaslin

High caibler rifles?


7 posted on 10/16/2017 8:18:49 AM PDT by Haiku Guy (eliminate perverse incentives)
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To: Kaslin

“If Liberals Truly Cared About Gun Control, They Would Support Closing U.S. Borders”

They only care about making people serfs under their control


8 posted on 10/16/2017 8:22:19 AM PDT by WKUHilltopper (WKU 2016 Boca Raton Bowl Champions)
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To: Kaslin
Who -- other than an ignorant, imbecilic liberal with an anti-gun agenda -- would photograph an AR with a bump-fire stock, a finger on the trigger -- and the selector in "FIRE" position?

Granted, there's no magazine, but the probability is high that the dumb@$$ holding that weapon was too ignorant to check to see if there was a round in the chamber...

Idiots with "gun ignorance" like that are precisely the ones who want to deny the rest of us our 2nd Amendment rights!

9 posted on 10/16/2017 8:34:38 AM PDT by TXnMA ("Allah": Satan's current alias | "Islamists": Satan's assassins | "Moderate Muslims": Useful idiots.)
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To: Kaslin


10 posted on 10/16/2017 8:39:33 AM PDT by Chode (You have all of the resources you are going to have. Abandon your illusions and plan accordingly.)
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To: Kaslin

Don’t let liberals fool you. They do NOT hate guns. In fact, they love guns. They just don’t want YOU to have them.


11 posted on 10/16/2017 8:43:52 AM PDT by taxcontrol (Stupid should hurt)
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To: Kaslin

bang bang bump


12 posted on 10/16/2017 8:51:23 AM PDT by Mrs. Don-o (QWERTY, ergo typo.)
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To: Kaslin

They should probably close Chicago first, then the border.


13 posted on 10/16/2017 8:55:11 AM PDT by ThePatriotsFlag (If GOP won House, Senate and Presidency...why are the Democrats still in charge?)
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To: WKUHilltopper

***They only care about making people serfs under their control***

Britain and France in the 1300s, and 1400s!
British citizens were expected to own and use the Longbow. They considered themselves to be FREE MEN!

French serfs were just that. When trained to use the longbow, they also considered themselves to be FREE MEN, and when the wars were over, were reluctant to give up their arms and return to serfdom.
So the French Kings hired Genoese crossbowmen as mercenaries and kept their serfs in serfdom.

Now both nations are serf nations with moslem overlords moving in.


14 posted on 10/16/2017 8:56:55 AM PDT by Ruy Dias de Bivar
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To: A_Former_Democrat

[ If the elites REALLY CARED about us, they would defend the borders vigorously. Keeping out the riff raff, criminals, drugs, guns, illegals, “birthright babies” et al ]

Globalists LOVE open borders because it allows both commerce in their favor and GRAFT and CRIME in their favor!


15 posted on 10/16/2017 9:50:31 AM PDT by GraceG ("It's better to have all the Right Enemies, than it is to have all the Wrong Friends.")
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To: Kaslin

If Liberals really cared, they would not be LIBERALS. he he


16 posted on 10/16/2017 11:18:31 AM PDT by hawg-farmer - FR..October 1998 (---->VMFA 235 '69 -'72 KMCAS <--- F4 PHANTOM... FLYING BRICK)
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To: hawg-farmer - FR..October 1998

You got it.


17 posted on 10/16/2017 11:19:33 AM PDT by Kaslin (Politicians are not born; they are excreted -Civilibus nati sunt; sunt excernitur. (Cicero))
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To: taxcontrol

:Don’t let liberals fool you. They do NOT hate guns. In fact, they love guns. They just don’t want YOU to have them.”

Ergo, hence, to-wit.....they sent thousands of weapons south of the border, under Obama, to Mehico!!!!!!!!!!!

Socialists...right or left, just love weapons in the wrong hands....when it is convenient.


18 posted on 10/16/2017 6:39:25 PM PDT by Puckster ( "Neanderthals Rule"...we don't need no stinking homo's, homosapiens are a pain in the arse!)
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