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Calif. Democrat Tells HUD Secretary to Get Familiar With Procedure for Removing Trump
CNS News ^ | 10/13/17 | Susan Jones

Posted on 10/13/2017 3:14:22 AM PDT by markomalley

A California Democrat urged Housing Secretary Ben Carson to get familiar with a provision in the U.S. Constitution that allows for the removal of a president who is declared "unable to discharge the powers and duties of his office."

Unable so far to get rid of a president they despise, some Democrats and liberal activists, including those in the media, have raised the possibility of declaring Trump unfit for office.

"Beyond your responsibilities for Housing and Urban Development, you have other responsibilities under the Constitution, along with other Cabinet secretaries, particularly Section 4 of the 25th Amendment," Rep. Brad Sherman (D-Calif.) told Carson on Thursday as the House Financial Services Committee held a HUD oversight hearing.

"And we all live by this Constitution," Sherman continued:

"I -- the -- Section 4 deals with the possibility that a president is unable to discharge the powers and duties of his office. Have you taken the time to get legal counsel to brief you on what your responsibility is, as a Cabinet secretary, under the 25th Amendment?" Sherman asked Carson.

"I have not had any in-depth discussions of that," Carson replied.

"I would urge you to do so," Sherman told Carson. "This amendment was written in the early '60s as a result of what we -- life that happens, whether it's the dangers that a president faces, whether it's the health problems a president can face.

"I would urge you first to get legal counsel, to know what your responsibilities are, and second, to discuss with other Cabinet officers how you would implement Section 4 of the 25th Amendment."

Sherman's time was up, and Carson did not reply.

Section 4 of the 25th Amendment reads in part:

Whenever the Vice President and a majority of either the principal officers of the executive departments or of such other body as Congress may by law provide, transmit to the President pro tempore of the Senate and the Speaker of the House of Representatives their written declaration that the President is unable to discharge the powers and duties of his office, the Vice President shall immediately assume the powers and duties of the office as Acting President.

Earlier this year, on July 12, Sherman filed Articles of Impeachment against Donald J. Trump for high crimes and misdemeanors.

Sherman argued that Trump committed Obstruction of Justice by pressuring FBI Director James Comey to abandon the investigation of former National Security Advisor Michael Flynn and by seeking to thwart the Russia Investigation.



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1 posted on 10/13/2017 3:14:22 AM PDT by markomalley
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To: markomalley

A Leftist member of the do-nothing Congress, with its 8% approval rating, calls Trump incompetent. The Onion, right?


2 posted on 10/13/2017 3:18:55 AM PDT by nickedknack ("Your time is up!")
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To: markomalley

Merely because some constituent or another may despise a particular President, is not sufficient grounds for removal from office. There has to be an OVERWHELMING preponderance of evidence of flagrant misfeasance or malfeasance of office, to the point where the nation as a whole is threatened.

If you are going to shoot the king, better make sure you don’t miss. Consequences for failure are a little draconian.


3 posted on 10/13/2017 3:23:34 AM PDT by alloysteel (Guilty until proven innocent, while denying defense, justice, mercy or any appeal. No pardon, ever.)
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To: markomalley

So they do everything in their power to keep him from governing effectively and then look to remove him from office for being unable to govern effectively. If they actually pulled a stunt like this, Civil War 2 would be on.


4 posted on 10/13/2017 3:32:44 AM PDT by RC one (The 2nd Amendment is a doomsday provision, one designed for those exceptionally rare circumstances)
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To: alloysteel

Remember, these are the people who believe driving a car destroys the planet and that police are responsible for the vast majority of black gunshot victims.


5 posted on 10/13/2017 3:33:00 AM PDT by samtheman (As an oil exporter, why would the Russians prefer Trump to Hillary? (Get it or be stupid.))
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Remember, these are the people who believe driving a car destroys the planet and that police are responsible for the vast majority of black gunshot victims.

I think they are even worse. I think that they are the people who cynically do everything necessary to make the gullible masses believe driving a car destroys the planet and that police are responsible for the vast majority of black gunshot victims.

Mr. niteowl77

6 posted on 10/13/2017 3:39:53 AM PDT by niteowl77
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To: RC one

“Civil War 2 would be on.”

To which I add, I will do all in my power to ensure it does not end well for them.


7 posted on 10/13/2017 3:40:57 AM PDT by Mouton (The MSM is a clear and present danger to the republic.)
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To: markomalley

Proper response to Brad Sherman: “Better get ready to be disappointed...again....and again...”


8 posted on 10/13/2017 3:41:53 AM PDT by trebb (Where in the the hell has my country gone?)
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To: RC one
Civil War 2 could be on

We don't have any information at all about the attempted assassination of as many HOR reps as possible in one place. (The Baseball Practice attempted massacre) Does anyone seriously believe that shooter did that on his own?

From that point on, how can anyone doubt that Civil War 2 is a shooting war against the US as an independent nation? The people we vote for enable the other side and are more interested in promoting globalist initiatives than saving the nation. It's not a good situation.

9 posted on 10/13/2017 3:47:27 AM PDT by grania (Deplorable and Proud of It!)
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To: alloysteel

They did this in the Soviet Union with folks they didn’t like. Straight to the psych ward, forever.


10 posted on 10/13/2017 3:47:43 AM PDT by dp0622 (The Left should know that if Trump isouokt of office, it is WAR!)
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11 posted on 10/13/2017 3:50:14 AM PDT by Vendome (I've Gotta Be Me - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wH-pk2vZG2M)
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To: nickedknack

You can always tell when the rats are in trouble; they cite the Constitution they despise.


12 posted on 10/13/2017 3:50:34 AM PDT by Jacquerie (ArticleVBlog.com)
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To: RC one; Mouton
Civil War 2 would be on.

You are correct sir. It will be sooooo on. 😀🇵🇭

13 posted on 10/13/2017 3:50:57 AM PDT by Mark17 (Genesis chapter 1 verse 1. In the beginning GOD....And the rest, as they say, is HIS-story)
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14 posted on 10/13/2017 3:51:30 AM PDT by Vendome (I've Gotta Be Me - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wH-pk2vZG2M)
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To: markomalley

Carson reply should have been.. Piss Off!


15 posted on 10/13/2017 3:51:40 AM PDT by 48th SPS Crusader (I am an American. Not a Republican or a Democrat)
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To: nickedknack

Let’s be fair. The House passed repeal and replace and the House passed a budget with provision for a tax cut. It’s the do-nothing Senate.


16 posted on 10/13/2017 3:52:01 AM PDT by Redmen4ever (u)
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To: markomalley

Despite NSA spying and the efforts of every executive branch agency during the campaign, the rats failed.

Despite attempts to corrupt the Electoral College, the rats failed.

Despite the howls for impeachment, the rats failed.

Despite their 25th Amendment erotic fantasies, the rats will fail.


17 posted on 10/13/2017 3:57:06 AM PDT by Jacquerie (ArticleVBlog.com)
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To: markomalley
This guy is of Russian Jewish descent. Why is he trying to impose white privilege over Ben Carson?

By the way, "Berman was the establishment candidate. He was endorsed by over 20 congressmen, including party leaders Steny Hoyer and Xavier Becerra. In addition, he was endorsed by sitting Governor Jerry Brown, sitting Los Angeles Mayor Antonio Villaraigosa, and the state's two U.S. Senators: Barbara Boxer and Dianne Feinstein.[20] He was also endorsed by ten Republican congressmen from California: David Dreier, Wally Herger, Dan Lungren, Elton Gallegly, Buck McKeon, Ed Royce, Jerry Lewis, Ken Calvert, Mary Bono Mack, and Darrell Issa.[21] In addition, he was endorsed by two Republican U.S. Senators: John McCain (R-AZ), Lindsey Graham (R-SC), and by Independent U.S. Senator Joe Lieberman."
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brad_Sherman

18 posted on 10/13/2017 3:57:36 AM PDT by outofsalt ( If history teaches us anything it's that history rarely teaches us anything)
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To: markomalley
THE "PEOPLE" ELECTED TRUMP...... F THE SWAMP!!!
19 posted on 10/13/2017 3:58:47 AM PDT by high info voter (Liberal leftists would have "un-friended" Paul Revere!)
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To: Jacquerie
“And we all live by this Constitution," Sherman continued:

Who does this ass hat think he is kidding? None of us were born yesterday, like him. 😀🇵🇭

20 posted on 10/13/2017 3:58:55 AM PDT by Mark17 (Genesis chapter 1 verse 1. In the beginning GOD....And the rest, as they say, is HIS-story)
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