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VANITY: Playing The Game
Self | 10/12/2017 | Dr. Thorne

Posted on 10/12/2017 1:33:57 PM PDT by Dr. Thorne

There is much talk about sexual harassment and abuse these days. Many people are asking why victims did not come forward at the time when these events took place. Besides l'affaire Weinstein, there has been the unending saga of Bill Cosby and his sickening sexual escapades. However, I have my own story to tell.


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KEYWORDS: chat; harassment; sexualabuse; vanity
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I am now retired from a 20 year career in opera, a field of music that is dominated by homosexuals. For instance, during my time at San Francisco Opera, outside of the stage crew and the singers, I only knew of one male on the entire staff who was not a homosexual. That staff included all the in-house musical and dramatic coaches and repetiteurs, the costume and make-up crews, the business and box-office staff, etc. The assumption by most was that everyone SHOULD be homosexual and be willing to engage in homo sex. This came from the top as the General Manager of the company, although married to a woman, was a closeted homosexual.

SF Opera is one of the top three opera companies in the US after the Metropolitan and Chicago Lyric. Getting your foot in the door there is a stepping stone to a productive musical career. After taking part in their Young Artist program, they hired me for a full season - three roles with a major opera company. I thought my career ticket had been punched.

The first opera in which I was cast was being directed by a world famous director, not a household name, but famous within the business. He was clearly a homosexual, but very funny, witty and friendly with all. During a break in one rehearsal, he asked if he and I could work on the scene apart from the rest of the cast, but within sight of them. Of course, I agreed because I wanted to succeed. He was lying on a chaise portraying the lead soprano when he stopped the scene, put his hand on my arm and said, "Dear boy, are you free for dinner this evening?" Since I was living with my girlfriend and am straight as an arrow, I declined as if it was one of his jokes. He was incensed.

"So, THAT'S the way it is!", he exclaimed as he jumped up and stormed off.

The lead soprano's cover had witnessed the whole thing. I asked her what that was all about. She just shrugged and said, "I wouldn't worry about it." So, I didn't.

Until the director walked into the General Manager's office that day and insisted I be replaced. I was called into the main office and told I was being replaced because "John" thought I was not "mature enough" for the role. I knew that this was punishment for not playing the game and capitulating to the director's advances, but kept my mouth shut until I could speak with my agent who explained to me that I had a contract the company had to honor, even if I wasn't singing the role in this opera.

He also explained that if I tried to go public with sexual harassment charges, my career would be over because of the endemic homosexuality in the opera business. Word spreads fast. I had worked long and hard, and spent thousands of dollars preparing my voice for opera. How could I throw it all away?

This is how all the folks feel, now numbering both women AND men, who are coming forward. They are an easily replaced cog in a big machine.

I hope all those on FR who berate the victims for not coming forward immediately will have some understanding of the intense pressure to remain silent in the face of the potential termination of their hopes and dreams. If you haven't been there, you might want to extend some grace to them.

1 posted on 10/12/2017 1:33:57 PM PDT by Dr. Thorne
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To: Dr. Thorne

+1


2 posted on 10/12/2017 1:37:29 PM PDT by sparklite2 (I'm less interested in the rights I have than the liberties I can take.)
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To: Dr. Thorne

Speaking Bill Cosby, where is Gloria Allred and daughter with these victims? There are millions available here.


3 posted on 10/12/2017 1:40:32 PM PDT by BerryDingle (I know how to deal with communists, I still wear their scars on my back from Hollywood-Ronald Reagan)
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To: Dr. Thorne

Is the homo that did that to you still living?


4 posted on 10/12/2017 1:44:12 PM PDT by tuffydoodle ("Never underestimate the total depravity of the average human being.")
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To: sparklite2

They didn’t refuse the advances or come forward at the time because they knew it was all just bumps on the road to Celebrity and Wealth.


5 posted on 10/12/2017 1:44:41 PM PDT by arthurus
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Sorry you had to experience that, Dr. Thorne.


6 posted on 10/12/2017 1:45:08 PM PDT by rochester_veteran (All that is necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing.)
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To: Dr. Thorne

An important post, thank you! I am so saddened to think of the garbage you and so many others have been put through by such scumbags.


7 posted on 10/12/2017 1:46:00 PM PDT by Enchante (Bill, Anthony, Harvey .... how does lesbo Hillary manage to surround herself with male predators???)
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To: BerryDingle

Gloria is a Leftist first, an attorney second and a feminist third. They protect their own.


8 posted on 10/12/2017 1:46:25 PM PDT by arthurus
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To: Dr. Thorne

I brought this up yesterday and nearly got lynched here for it...

You should see the message I got from a Freeper too. I asked them to apologize, but they never did.... look what they sent me...

Re: Do as the Romans Do
From BatGuano | 10/11/2017 9:00:44 PM PDT replied
Spare your daughter or son too? You blow this off like it is nothing to the victim. Are you one who is on the other end of the equation?


9 posted on 10/12/2017 1:48:58 PM PDT by Professional
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The entertainment industry, from Hollywood to local community theater, is shot through with faggotry and sleaze.

the potential termination of their hopes and dreams.

I would encourage young folks to have other dreams.

10 posted on 10/12/2017 1:50:07 PM PDT by NorthMountain (... the right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed)
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To: tuffydoodle

Yes. He’s retired. The General Manager who was his accomplice is dead.


11 posted on 10/12/2017 1:50:54 PM PDT by Dr. Thorne
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To: sparklite2

Sorry you had to experience this but thank you for sharing your straight male perspective, my FRiend. Hope your career wasn’t adversely affected.


12 posted on 10/12/2017 1:51:07 PM PDT by Menehune56 ("Let them hate so long as they fear" (Oderint Dum Metuant), Lucius Accius (170 BC - 86 BC))
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To: Professional

Zero responsibility for the women is a total lie and a joke.

Weinstein is scum, deserves jail.

The women that never tried to become actresses or actors due to the well known practice of “casting couches” are the real victims.

But women that trot off to Los Angeles and act like bimbos and shed their clothes and give it up for a job/fame, have only themselves to blame and are NOT victims.


13 posted on 10/12/2017 1:52:00 PM PDT by Professional
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I do this all the time. When people find out that I'm a retired singer, I often hear, "My son/daughter wants to be a singer. Do you any advice?"

My answer is, "Yes. Tell them to be a doctor."

14 posted on 10/12/2017 1:53:09 PM PDT by Dr. Thorne
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Mamas, don't let your babies grow up to be cowboys singers ...
15 posted on 10/12/2017 1:54:53 PM PDT by NorthMountain (... the right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed)
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To: Professional

I’m sure some “victims” are very willing. But considering Weinstein’s MO, it seems he enjoyed truly victimizing the unsuspecting.


16 posted on 10/12/2017 1:55:05 PM PDT by Dr. Thorne
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To: Menehune56

It’s been terrible. He doesn’t write, he doesn’t call ....

;)


17 posted on 10/12/2017 1:55:36 PM PDT by sparklite2 (I'm less interested in the rights I have than the liberties I can take.)
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To: Enchante

It happens every day and probably always will until the Judgment Day. I’m just asking for a little grace for those who had too much to lose to come forward. Seems the time’s are changing.


18 posted on 10/12/2017 1:57:10 PM PDT by Dr. Thorne
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To: arthurus

Well, thanks for knowing it all.


19 posted on 10/12/2017 1:57:44 PM PDT by Dr. Thorne
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To: Menehune56

Frankly, it was.


20 posted on 10/12/2017 1:58:18 PM PDT by Dr. Thorne
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