Posted on 10/08/2017 3:19:30 PM PDT by Kaslin
We still don’t know what set off Stephen Paddock in Las Vegas. The 64-year-old checked into the Mandalay Bay hotel, went to the 32nd floor, took 23 firearms with him, and proceeded to fire upon the 22,000 concertgoers below at the Route 91 Harvest music festival. It was the last night of the festival. He killed 58 people and wounded nearly 500 more. He killed himself before police breached the door to his suite.
As Democratic members of Congress prepare to push gun control again, they’re faced with the same obstacles of this increasingly stale debate over whether or not we should chip away at Americans’ constitutional rights. Paddock was independently wealthy which allowed him to buy a lot of firearms. All were purchased legally. He was no criminal history or known mental illness. So, there really isn’t much to advocate for in the legislative front, besides pushing an outright gun ban, which is unconstitutional and politically unfeasible. Senior editor at The Atlantic David Frum had a different take. Play the long game and ingrain into the national psyche that it’s dangerous to own guns, and that it makes you a bad parent to own guns. He said this Tuesday on MSNBC’s The Last Word with Lawrence O’Donnell. He was a guest on the show, along with Rep. Jackey Rosen (D-NV). Newsbusters clipped the exchange [emphasis mine]:
LAWRENCE O'DONNELL: The polling shows that most Americans agree with the congresswoman on this.
DAVID FRUM: Well, I wish that were true, but I think when you face the reality, it just isn't. One of the things that we have seen over the past decade is a rising support among Americans for ever broader definitions of gun rights in exactly the way that Justice Burger warned us against. But that it where the country is.
And so it makes this -- and this is a really painful thing to say -- these technical fixes people look for, maybe if we had banned this implement or regulated that implement -- there is something very wrong with the American gun culture. Three percent of the people own 50 percent of the weapons in this country -- I mean, a tiny number of people and vast numbers of weapons.
Until you persuade people that it is just dangerous to themselves, to their children, you're not a good parent if you have a gun in the house, you're not protecting your family, you're a bad parent if you have a gun in the house, until you drill that idea into people's heads and persuade them to change the way we changed about cigarettes and seatbelts, these technical fixes aren't going to accomplish a lot. And pubic opinion -- you can make it look like it's on your side if you ask the poll question the right way, but operationally it's not.
Yeah, I’m sure that’s really going to go over well; telling Americans that they’re bad parents for exercising their constitutional right to own firearms. If anything, that will drive up sales. The firearm is an integral part of American culture and history. There is no escaping that, neither is the incessant push by liberals to blame the tens of millions (the overwhelming majority) of law-abiding American gun owners for the actions of criminals and insane people. Yet, the anti-gun Left keeps doing it, Americans still buy firearms in record numbers; Obama was a terrific salesman, and the Second Amendment stands strong.
Not every one should own a gun. Example: Your’s truly
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Why is that?
No one could have said it any better, than you.
You just have to raise them right.
Just look out for a cook off
My dad taught me gun safety. The government taught me to use a gun to kill. The same government the left wants to have absolute power over me.
Depends on what you let them watch.
(BTW If a pollster calls me, all my guns were tragically lost in the hurricane!)
Absolutely!
LOL!
Hold on; I need to run down and buy a bigger hat.
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Now don’t get all like crazy on me. Remember you need to get through the door. No matter, I fig’r you got the cattle.
Hopefully your children are old enough to know better and you don’t have any small grand children who can get a hold of the guns, otherwise you are responsible if one gets a hold of it and kills a little brother, sister or friens
Hopefully your children are old enough to know better and you don’t have any small grand children who can get a hold of the guns, otherwise you are responsible if one gets a hold of it and kills a little brother, sister or friend
Hopefully your children are old enough to know better and you don’t have any small grand children who can get a hold of the guns, otherwise you are responsible if one gets a hold of it and kills a little brother, sister or friens
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That is covered foremost. Anything else defeats the purpose.
My son was shocked to find out I own a gun recently. Funny because even last season we bought some ammo with him in tow, along with fishing and tent gear.
Yeah, I haven’t practiced in years.
I’m a bad mom.
Of the two, guess which one is explicitly mentioned as a right which "shall not be infringed" in the Bill of Rights?
Which one was a vague "penumbra" invented out of whole cloth by an autofellatory liberal?
So guess which one *must* *not* *be* *touched* according to all the Gramscian infiltrators?
3% of the population owns 50% of the firearms in this country? That is completely ludicrous.
Quite frankly, I think a lot of the stories where toddlers "get hold" of guns and manage to manipulate them to the point of shooting themselves or someone else are incredibly suspicious.
Later on when I got married I asked my husband to let me shoot a rifle, same result. Than one day he brought one home and let my try it. It kicked me in my shoulder when I pulled the trigger, that I said no way. Naturally as usual I did not hit the target he told me to shoot at because I could not see it through the finder.
The same goes for riding a motorcycle. I loved riding as a passenger behind my husband. One day he tried to teach to ride one. I showed him that I couldn't and shouldn't. Lets put it this way: Someone that pushes a bicycle down a hill on a street, instead of riding it down does not need to ride a motorcycle
You are an even worse parent if you aren’t prepared to protect your family.
Say that little changes like banning certain types of guns aren’t enough, abandon the incrementalism and just label guns evil, shame if not outright punish people for owning them.
Liberals have already passed laws in Ottawa and I think Massachusetts and California that if you oppose your child coming out as homosexual or transgender, the state can take your child away.
When liberals already conservatives crazy and being armed dangerous, now they want to say you’re an unfit parent if you are conservative and have guns .. the groundwork to take your children away if you don’t give up your guns.
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