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Please Stop With the Conspiracy Theories Surrounding the Las Vegas Shooting
Townhall.com ^ | October 5, 2017 | Steve Sheldon

Posted on 10/05/2017 3:25:24 PM PDT by Kaslin

Too many rumors are swirling around regarding the tragedy in Vegas from Sunday night. Let me start by dispelling with some of the questions floating around on the internet:


1.  How did he get that many weapons into his room without being noticed?  

A: With a luggage cart and ten suitcases over 3 days.

2.  How did he fire off that many rounds without training?  

A: A monkey can pull a trigger; and, who says he didn't have practice?

3. How was he able to kill that many people in such a short time?  

A: He had 11 minutes firing on near full-auto (using a bump fire device) into a crowd of people that had no idea where the fire was coming from.

4.  Why did he have so many weapons?  

A: First, he was a psychopath. Clark County Sheriff Joseph Lombardo said it best, "No Ma'am, I can't get into the mind of a psychopath at this point." 

Second, he probably thought he would be there for an extended period of time and perhaps thought he would heat up one or more guns. Maybe he wasn't good at changing magazines? Again, first answer is always a fit. Seriously, how can we apply reason to a psychopath?

5. How did he get his hands on fully automatic firearms?  

A: Investigation has determined that he had bump fire or slide fire devices on 12 of his firearms, which make them sound like a full-auto and operate much like a full-auto. They are approved by the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives and are easily available (until now).

6.  How was he able to remove a window with 800 pounds of hurricane glass without training? (I know, seriously, this was a question.) 

A: With a hammer.

7. How did he get up 32 floors with 400 pounds of equipment?  

A: With an elevator and luggage cart.

8.  What about the sounds of gunfire coming from other directions?  

A:  It was an echo. 

9. How does one man come to own $100K worth of weapons without being noticed?  

A: He was rich.  As far as what we know right now, all guns were purchased legally over a period of time from multiple vendors.  Every dealer and serious collector at a gun show has that many or more, and they are not psychopathic mass murderer candidates.

10: How is it possible that he killed/injured so many in such a short time...without training?

A:  He was able to fire uninhibited an unreported number of rounds into a massive crowd, where he couldn't miss hitting something. When we know more, it is likely that many of the injuries were not from gunfire but from the panic that ensued. However, considering the rate of fire and the mass of the crowd, it wouldn't be the least bit unreasonable to think that 50-70% of the bullets hit something.

11. What gun laws could have prevented this?  

A: None. He had no criminal background.

12. What about laws preventing mentally ill people from getting firearms?  

A: How does one accurately measure another's current mental stability or future propensity to become a psychopath among the group of every potential firearm purchaser?

13. What about the unidentified and unverified woman who told the crowd that a lot of people were going to die?  

Possible answers: 1. It is made up nonsense. 2. She was drunk.

14. What about the shots coming from other floors?  

A. Echoes, reflections of other things, reflections of the shooter across multiple reflective surfaces (Las Vegas is mostly glass)... 

Response questions:  Where in these locations was glass broken?  Where in these locations were reports of gunfire from adjacent rooms? (That's how the shooter was quickly located.) How did these mysterious shooters so quickly police up all their brass and keep the fire alarms from going off with all the smoke?

15. How did the shooter manage to record a video of himself?

A.  Ummmmm, I don't know, a tripod?

Finally, some questions for the conspiracy theorists.

How do hundreds of law enforcement officers secretly conspire to cover up evidence in one of the nation's worst modern massacres?  What would be their motivation? Would conspiracy advocates be satisfied when they see video evidence of the shooter by himself committing the act and ending it by putting a gun in his mouth?

I could go on, but you get the picture.  Please folks, stop with the conspiracy insanity and let the investigators do their jobs.  Seriously, just stop.


TOPICS: Front Page News; News/Current Events; US: Nevada
KEYWORDS: conspiracytheory; grassyknoll; guncontrol; lasvegasshooting; magicbullets; yeaaaaaaaa
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To: GrandJediMasterYoda

“I WANT to know if this guy was involved with either or those terrorist organizations, ISIS or Antifa and if so take appropriate action against them.”

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I wonder if this was the meaning of President Trump’s “calm before the storm” quote today with all those military people.


421 posted on 10/06/2017 8:19:21 AM PDT by Deo volente ("Our Independence Day is at hand, and it arrives finally on November 8th." Donald Trump)
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To: Kaslin

Well if nothing else this should make us all realize that if the FBI, after twelve months, has still not cleared Donald Trump of colluding with the Russians then he is guilty as charged.

It only took the FBI eight hours to rule out any domestic or foreign ties here. Everyone please move on.


422 posted on 10/06/2017 8:50:08 AM PDT by CodeJockey (White privilege. A byproduct of superior intellect. Nothing more, nothing less.)
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To: gaijin

Where did that come from? Is there a way to verify whether or not it is fake?


423 posted on 10/06/2017 9:09:09 AM PDT by butterdezillion
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To: butterdezillion

I am transcribing on my phone just now so I can’t say much however:

be aware that this story is one of the leading ones on drudge right now.

drudge himself is certainly capable of being deceived just as you and I are However the fact that the story is now garnering so many hits that is something.

I will paste a little more information later when I’m in front of a computer.


424 posted on 10/06/2017 9:12:12 AM PDT by gaijin
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To: Kaslin
"Psychopathy, sometimes considered synonymous with sociopathy, is traditionally defined as a personality disorder characterized by persistent antisocial behavior, impaired empathy and remorse, and bold, disinhibited, egotistical traits."

I don't know.... For a lefty that's considered about normal..

425 posted on 10/06/2017 9:12:22 AM PDT by unread (Joe McCarthy was right.......)
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To: chris37

That is the key issue here. We know that both government and media (but I repeat myself) have lied to us deliberately on a regular basis.

How can ANY of us believe anything we are told?

Those who espouse “politics as usual” need to realize that they have made us a society that CANNOT unite, because everybody gets to choose their own facts. God knows nobody within the justice system cares about facts.

THAT is why the “crazy conspiracy theories” need to be ADDRESSED - not eye-rolled away. As long as major, major issues such as Fast & Furious, IRS-gate, Benghazi, Obama’s ineligibility and the faked death of Loretta Fuddy, Extortion 17, “The Hammer”, Hillary’s email server, etc are all just eye-rolled away, there is no reason for any person to believe anything we are told by the media, law enforcement, and politicians. None.

And THAT is a very, very serious problem. In fact, I can think of no more serious secular problem that we could have as a nation, when nobody is believable and nobody can be trusted.

When will our justice system get serious about this, because we are fast disintegrating as a people and as a nation because of this. It is tearing every person apart from every other person, because everybody has a different set of “facts” based on whose reporting they trust.


426 posted on 10/06/2017 9:15:18 AM PDT by butterdezillion
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To: Justa

WHERE did you hear that the GUARD had gun shot residue on him?? I MUST read more.


427 posted on 10/06/2017 9:15:41 AM PDT by Ann Archy (Abortion....... The HUMAN Sacrifice to the god of Convenience.)
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To: Justa

What is the Guard’s NAME?


428 posted on 10/06/2017 9:16:13 AM PDT by Ann Archy (Abortion....... The HUMAN Sacrifice to the god of Convenience.)
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To: butterdezillion

It has become very clear to me that my government is capable of anything in order to advance it’s agenda.

It simply doesn’t care about anything else at all.


429 posted on 10/06/2017 9:31:30 AM PDT by chris37 (Tagline is currently under repair!)
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To: chris37

And that is simply not sustainable. When nobody is credible and all things are possible to the government, there is no way for anybody to know which “truth” to believe. We’re all - in that situation - making up our own reality. And it will drive us to hate and kill each other, like it currently is doing in our society.

We are learning exactly how banana republics are made. SOMEBODY needs to step up and do what is necessary to get us back to reality.


430 posted on 10/06/2017 9:35:09 AM PDT by butterdezillion
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To: Rennes Templar

It’s a strobe light.

Probably from the fire alarms


431 posted on 10/06/2017 9:48:58 AM PDT by 2CAVTrooper (Democrats... BETRAYING America since 1828.)
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To: RegulatorCountry

We know now that it was Ted Cruz’s dad who killed Kennedy, and George W. Bush, who just happened to be in town at the time but never accounted for that time, was complicit in the assassination.


432 posted on 10/06/2017 10:15:28 AM PDT by T-Bone Texan (Trump's election does not release you from your prepping responsibilites!)
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To: TigerClaws

I posit that Paddock was merely a patsy and did not even fire the weapons.

Someone else did, and they killed Paddock.

Who is that someone else?

I say CIA or FBI.


433 posted on 10/06/2017 10:18:34 AM PDT by T-Bone Texan (Trump's election does not release you from your prepping responsibilites!)
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To: Kaslin

I agree.

Savage had some clueless bimbo on his show the other day talking about a woman who was standing just a few inches behind and to the left of her had a large stomach wound. And the bimbo kept going on and on about how does a bullet make a 90 degree turn to the left, etc, etc. And blathered on about two different gun sounds. All the while I’m shaking my head because of how stupid this woman is.

The wound described is an exit wound. They are being shot at from the left, bullet passes behind the clueless bimbo and hits the other woman in the side. Round probably hit the spine and ricochet to exit the front.

The two gun sounds.. One is the bullet breaking the sound barrier, and the other is the muzzle report from gun itself.


434 posted on 10/06/2017 10:24:23 AM PDT by 2CAVTrooper (Democrats... BETRAYING America since 1828.)
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To: T-Bone Texan; All

They came out with this ‘allergy’ story and in the photo he’s wearing gloves (death photo on Daily Mail has him in black gloves).

He has the room; all the weapons can be traced to him via his purchases. But he has an escape plan?

As you said, did he ever fire a single shot? He might have been killed, then the carnage. Then real shooters leave before anyone got there.

Gateway Pundit has this out (was removed when I posted it on FR earlier):

http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2017/10/translated-isis-weekly-news-report-describes-stephen-paddocks-murderous-attack-islamic-conversion/

He also (according to valet records) checked into the hotel days before police said he did.


435 posted on 10/06/2017 10:33:15 AM PDT by TigerClaws
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To: T-Bone Texan

If you say so, lol.


436 posted on 10/06/2017 10:33:37 AM PDT by RegulatorCountry
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To: TigerClaws

Possibly made an ISIS tape:

http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2017/10/translated-isis-weekly-news-report-describes-stephen-paddocks-murderous-attack-islamic-conversion/


437 posted on 10/06/2017 10:34:23 AM PDT by TigerClaws
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To: editor-surveyor

You are the ignorant stupid loser that posted your blithering nonsense to me. So STFU!


438 posted on 10/06/2017 10:37:37 AM PDT by Brown Deer (America First!)
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To: T-Bone Texan

GRAPHIC IMAGE - HIS DEAD BODY/HEAD — BLOODY

http://maniacnanny.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/10/LAS-VEGAS-SHOOTER-STEPHEN-PADDOCK-DEATH-PHOTO.jpg

Is that a chest shot? Where’d that come from?

Where are the powder burns on his nose and mouth that would be there had he stuck a gun in his mouth and fired?


439 posted on 10/06/2017 10:37:40 AM PDT by TigerClaws
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To: glenduh
Interesting graphic. I wonder why he busted out a window in a second room as opposed to just adjacent to that rooms wall but in the same room? Seems from a logistical perspective he could have monitored his camera feed and not have to cover as much ground to alternate firing positions.

Move the busted window on the left over two positions. Just an observation.

440 posted on 10/06/2017 10:41:25 AM PDT by CodeJockey (White privilege. A byproduct of superior intellect. Nothing more, nothing less.)
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