Posted on 08/21/2017 12:11:09 PM PDT by Enlightened1
Taking the pulse of Trump’s Afghanistan strategy among Washington’s mainstream media, Mike Allen, the co-founder of both Politico and Axios media, determined that the war will remain a stalemate under the president’s plan.
“The plan will have the U.S. not winning, but not losing,” he wrote.
U.S. Gen. John Nicholson, the top commander of American and NATO forces in Afghanistan, told Congress in February that the coalition has been facing a “stalemate” in the war-ravaged country for years.
Echoing the top U.S. general, the Special Inspector General for Afghanistan Reconstruction (SIGAR), an American watchdog agency, at the end of last month also described the current situation in the war-ravaged country as a “stalemate.”
Citing the U.S. forces in Afghanistan, SIGAR noted that “as of May 15, 2017, the struggle between the Afghan government and insurgents remains a stalemate.”
The United States has been fighting the war in Afghanistan since October 2001 at a significant cost of blood and treasure — an estimated $714 billion as well as 2,257 U.S. service members killed and 20,257 others injured.
Despite the U.S. taxpayer investment in Afghanistan over nearly 16 years, the Taliban is stronger, al-Qaeda continues to operate in the country, and the Islamic State (ISIS/ISIL) has established a presence.
Security conditions significantly deteriorated after former President Barack Obama declared the U.S. combat mission in Afghanistan over at the end of 2014, a move that fueled a Taliban resurgence.
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I have dealt with a lot of soldiers in that hell hole through care packages.
We are not going to win any damn conflict there. There is no “winning”.
I think of all the lives lost. The misery. The joy at having a care package drop from the sky in some god forsaken post on some godforsaken hill because they didn’t even have basics.
We need to get out of there.
Now.
Can you say Vietnam 2.0???
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Vietnam isn’t too bad today. In some places you can’t win in the short term.
Short term? We are on our third President with the first two serving max terms.
Wipe out ISIS. Is that clear enough?
I am not talking about the U.S. not winning in Vietnam.
The US is combat effective, but not brutal enough.
The reality of Afghanistan is that they have been fighting for hundreds of years. We aren't going to wear them down, we have to wipe them out or leave.
Trump has repeatedly said that he’s not the kind of Commander-In-Chief who tells the enemy what we’ll do next or even after that.
I want us out of there, completely out of there, but not Obama’s way. He’s letting the generals give them his plans. Let’s try it. Win then leave. If we wish to win, we will win.
To protect the heroin market.
Mike Allen. Now there’s a respected source. /s
Amazing how Freepers will fall for anything anymore.
It’s a losing battle. Those tribal Islamist people will never ever change. I hate to see one more of our troops lose life or limb for that he!l hole. After 9/11, we should have just bombed the terrorists, and just return to bomb them again when they regrouped. Rebuilding that place is a lost cause.
The real plan is eternal war. Good for career officers. Good for neocons. Good for arms companies. Good for radical Islamists since our presence there is a great recruitment tool. Good for politicians who pretend that they are doing something. Good for the opium growers who we protect thuse ensuring plenty of black funding for the CIA.
Not so good for lower middle class kids and their parents.
Apparently, we learned all the wrong lessons from the Vietnam War. We were never able to seal the border and eliminate the trail so we were never able to halt reinforcement of the enemy. In addition, we at first, "looked the other way" while the SVN corrupt military and leadership got filthy rich off the opium/heroin trade and after a while actively encouraged and supported that trade to keep our "allies" on our side.
What are we doing differently in Afghanistan? Shipping a much, much, higher percentage of the heroin to the US is the only significant difference I can see. Is that how to win in Afghanistan, by making heroin so cheap and plentiful people buy it instead of their prescriptions? The US left the Golden Triangle which was the cancer that kept us from winning in Vietnam and went to the Golden Crescent to, without blinking an eye, make all the same mistakes about ourselves and our enemy again.
Come on, it's not a matter of the "adults" taking over, it's a matter of the "adults" having organized the jihad against the Soviets. In doing so, we showed the Muzlame world how to recreate what defeated us in Vietnam so they can fight the US to a standstill for as long as we're stupid enough to show up and take casualties.
JMHo
What resources do they have? Poppies?
The reason we went there was for Osama Bin Laden.
Well now he is dead. So there is no reason to be there anymore.
Insanity is doing the same thing and expecting a different result.
someone is giving Axios information. I have seen it multiple times.
So if they are right about this announcement will you start to watch what they are saying?
Probably not.
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This is so hard to follow as I want to Trust Bannon but if his company puts out real news about fake news, what am I to think?
We the people, deplorable, patriots, don’t have some secret translator or glasses like from the movie, “They Live” to filter crap from shinola.
Since Bannon went back to Breitbart over the past 2-3 days they have been sourcing from politico and Axios...fake news...what is up with that? Is it akin to counter surveillance and purposefully throwing us off?
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