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AM Joy Guest: “You Still Have Actual Nazis” in the White House
Legal Insurrection ^ | Mark Finkelstein

Posted on 08/19/2017 10:56:25 AM PDT by governsleastgovernsbest

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To: governsleastgovernsbest

What utter idiocy.

This si what they say when they can’t articulate an argument.


41 posted on 08/19/2017 3:26:14 PM PDT by TBP (0bama lies, Granny dies.)
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To: Ohioan; Travis McGee; Pelham

They hate and attack us because we are the foundation of social conservatism in America today

Always have been actually

Despite the myths propagated by so many here

Free Republic is so far behind the curve now it’s a distant mirage in the mirror of current realities


42 posted on 08/19/2017 3:34:25 PM PDT by wardaddy (Virtue signalers should be shsot...conservative ones racked and hanged then fed to dogs)
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To: jmaroneps37

As much as I detest baby killing half Jewish half Nazi Chelsea Handler

It’s not her fault her grandfather fought for the Wemacht

Or participated in some youth SA program

No evidence I saw he was a party member

Best teacher I ever had was once a 14 year old Hitlerjugend

Context

She’s still a c word though


43 posted on 08/19/2017 3:43:48 PM PDT by wardaddy (Virtue signalers should be shsot...conservative ones racked and hanged then fed to dogs)
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To: Crucial

“I still think Trump should clarify his remarks about Charlottesville”

Okay I’ll bite- what exact words from President Trump would permit concern trolls to sleep better?


44 posted on 08/19/2017 5:14:39 PM PDT by Pelham (Liberate California. Deport Mexico Now)
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To: Pelham

It should be something simple like:

This administration does not support racial supremacism, nor does it tolerate anarchists. This country is worth preserving and its founders deserve to be revered.


45 posted on 08/19/2017 6:07:31 PM PDT by Crucial
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To: Crucial

And how is that any different than what Trump said the first time?


46 posted on 08/19/2017 6:13:18 PM PDT by Pelham (Liberate California. Deport Mexico Now)
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To: Pelham

With the Left, you have to be precise. They find any weaknesses in your phrases and turn them inside out and twist them. Language is the Left’s biggest weapon and you can’t let them use it.


47 posted on 08/19/2017 7:58:44 PM PDT by Crucial
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To: Crucial

Well good luck with that.

Lying and slander have been the Left’s standard operating procedure since long before I was born, it’s not like they would be stymied by precise language.

They are firm believers in the Joseph Goebbels’ School of Debate. Truth is not only unneeded it’s unwelcome.


48 posted on 08/19/2017 11:25:06 PM PDT by Pelham (Liberate California. Deport Mexico Now)
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To: Pelham

I think you realize then that Trump has to win hearts and minds to our side on this issue. The silent majority has to be roused to act, at least through public opinion, on an issue this big.


49 posted on 08/19/2017 11:31:02 PM PDT by Crucial
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To: Crucial

What part of it do you think Trump isn’t addressing?

He condemned the violence on both sides. Beginning with his very first comment.

The MSM and the Left howled because they don’t want the public to recognize that the BLM and Antifa Left are domestic terrorists engaged in violence all over the country. They want all the blame to to be on the Right.


50 posted on 08/19/2017 11:44:58 PM PDT by Pelham (Liberate California. Deport Mexico Now)
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To: Pelham

And they are doing a very good job of isolating Trump and casting him as some kind of closet klansman. It’s something I would have liked to see corrected but it’s probably too late.


51 posted on 08/20/2017 8:11:10 AM PDT by Crucial
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To: Ohioan
But the people who pull the strings of the "useful idiots," have rigid purpose, not imaginations. They hate the Old South not because it was imagined to be cruel; but actually the exact opposite. It was actually more tolerant of divergent views than any other region.

I think the abolitionists (who's modern ideological descendents are today regarded as liberal kooks) hated the South, but I think most of the normal people in the North did not hate them until animosity was ginned up against them.

I think once your side declares war on someone, it becomes natural to view them as horrible monsters, because that is one of the ways people cope with doing terrible things to them. We've done it in pretty much every war.

I think much of the subsequent hatred of the South is a consequence of the need to feel vindicated and reassured for what was done to them. This is why in these debates, the people arguing on behalf of the Northern side invariably try to force the discussion into one about slavery, because this is the area in which they can feel both justified and morally superior; A powerful combination of emotions which many people cannot resist.

When the discussion is forced back to the idea of "consent of the governed" and framed in what was the normal social standards for the day, they are not so comfortable with it, because it does not clearly support what they would prefer was the truth.

Unlike the Nazis, the Old South embraced individualists, like Thomas Jefferson; other Faiths, like the Jews it elected to the U.S. Senate; Officers, who designed their own uniforms; even, despite the vicious lies of today, a level of goodwill between the races, which really did not exist in the rest of the Union.

It occurs to me that this "individualism" might be quite objectionable to the sort of people who want everyone to obey a controlling authority, especially if that controlling authority furthers the interests of people behind the scenes for which the controlling authority insures their prosperity and continuing power.

I have come to think this is the dynamic at play regarding the masters of the Media.

How many of the South haters, today, are even aware that Stonewall Jackson taught a Sunday School class for young Negroes in his neighborhood; that the song "Carry Me Back To Old Virginny," was actually written by a Negro song writer, from New Jersey, celebrating his love for a Virginia girl. (Unfortunately those Virginians who took it down as a State song, in response to an earlier hate driven attack on heritage, didn't know that either.

None of that is useful to them because it does not further their narrative. Therefore they don't want to hear about it or contemplate it.

52 posted on 08/21/2017 6:04:47 AM PDT by DiogenesLamp ("of parents owing allegiance to no other sovereignty.")
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I think there is a very clear difference in the motivations of the South haters before and after 1898. Those on both sides of the original divide were willing to bury the hatchet in a revival of mutual respect after the Spanish American War.

Those who have revived the hostilities, post 1909, are a new breed of Jacobins--admittedly picking up the remnants of the former South haters--as in the founding of the NAACP. Or if you prefer, a growing collection of Marxists, Fabians, etc, who like other Marxists, Fabians & Nazis, abroad, have picked up the Jacobin egalitarian mantra.

All such groups share a strong compulsion for "uniformity" of thought; which after all can be a central element in the need to pretend that all of us are equal--even interchangeable.

We are now entering the phase where Jacobin mobs tried to destroy all the rudiments of French culture.

See Compulsion For Uniformity

Contrast Booker T. Washington's picture of race relations in the Old South with the distorted narrative being pushed in Academia, over a century later:

Booker T. Washington Address

Consider Calhoun--the most famous voice of the Old South's-- actual Libertarian views, with the way the Old South is now being falsely depicted:

Fort Hill Address

Consider my personal take on what is going on:

Reconstruction & Creating Hate In America Today

53 posted on 08/21/2017 7:47:13 AM PDT by Ohioan
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I think there is a very clear difference in the motivations of the South haters before and after 1898. Those on both sides of the original divide were willing to bury the hatchet in a revival of mutual respect after the Spanish American War.

Those who have revived the hostilities, post 1909, are a new breed of Jacobins--admittedly picking up the remnants of the former South haters--as in the founding of the NAACP. Or if you prefer, a growing collection of Marxists, Fabians, etc, who like other Marxists, Fabians & Nazis, abroad, have picked up the Jacobin egalitarian mantra.

That is actually a pretty good observation. Yes, I think you are right about this.

All such groups share a strong compulsion for "uniformity" of thought; which after all can be a central element in the need to pretend that all of us are equal--even interchangeable.

The belief that they can reinvent man (ala Nietzsche) has long been accepted in these socialist movements. It is the central fallacy of their ideology and the cause of most of their economic failures.

We are now entering the phase where Jacobin mobs tried to destroy all the rudiments of French culture.

Yes. What we are seeing now, parallels what we have seen before in the past.

54 posted on 08/21/2017 1:56:42 PM PDT by DiogenesLamp ("of parents owing allegiance to no other sovereignty.")
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