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Tesla Model 3: Elon Musk Rolls Out Mass Market Model
BBC NEWS ^ | 07/29/2017 | BBC NEWS

Posted on 07/29/2017 5:18:37 AM PDT by goldstategop

Electric car maker Tesla has rolled out its new Model 3 vehicle - the company's cheapest car to date.

The first 30 customers - most of them employees of the company - received their cars on Friday.

Chief executive Elon Musk said the Model 3 was the "best car for its cost, either electric or gasoline".

Prices start at $35,000 (£26,650), which the firm hopes will bring mass market interest.

The price is still higher than that of rival electric car the Nissan Leaf, which starts at $30,680, or the hybrid Chevrolet Volt, which goes for $34,095.

(Excerpt) Read more at bbc.com ...


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Culture/Society; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: automakers; bbcnews; electriccar; elonmusk; massmarket; model3; tesla
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To: vette6387

“..it’s very small, and has no range on a charge.”

Welcome to the future.


21 posted on 07/29/2017 5:38:35 AM PDT by Leep (Less talk more ACTiON!)
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To: goldstategop

Any company that depends on hidden and overt taxpayer subsidies ultimately fails. Doubt consumers will rush to buy cars of questionable durability that can’t go very far.


22 posted on 07/29/2017 5:39:24 AM PDT by allendale (.)
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To: goldstategop

This thing makes no economic sense, so of course it’s heavily subsidized by us taxpayers. Why would I want a car that goes such a short distance before needing a charge, and then who has the time to wait for the charge to complete? And that charge hold gets less and less as the batteries age. Additionally, why would I want to pay that huge cost for battery replacement in 5 to 7 years when the batteries become useless, only holding a minimal charge? This will never compete with a gas powered vehicle, until some new, future battery technology is invented. Right now, only leftist greenies who want to highlight their progressive bonafides for all to see are the market for this crap.


23 posted on 07/29/2017 5:40:48 AM PDT by Nicojones
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To: central_va

“E-cars may works is in a dry warm climate were air conditioning and heat are not really an issue. Taking this thing out for a spin in January up in Minnesota could cost you your life.”

I live in Montana in a town of 35,000 or so.

There are eight Tesla S’s and two Tesla X’s here..

They do just fine in the cold and snow.


24 posted on 07/29/2017 5:44:06 AM PDT by BBB333 (The Power Of Trump Compels You!)
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To: littleharbour
I believe that. Whenever I have to drive downtown (Chicago) I never see any of the charging stations in the parking garage I use in use by an electric vehicle.

I have seen plenty of Tesla Model S', Toyota Prius' and Ford CMAX vehicles in downtown Chicago, never seen one on a charger.

25 posted on 07/29/2017 5:44:31 AM PDT by usconservative (When The Ballot Box No Longer Counts, The Ammunition Box Does. (What's In Your Ammo Box?))
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To: Moonman62

dark fiber? refresh my memory.


26 posted on 07/29/2017 5:45:30 AM PDT by Blue Highway
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To: BBB333
Same here. There are several Model S' near where I live (Chicago area) and a fair number of them in the city and I see them on the roads in the winter doing just fine.

I have heard that the battery life is a little diminished in the extreme cold weather but not bad enough that someone wouldn't make it where ever they needed to go.

27 posted on 07/29/2017 5:46:34 AM PDT by usconservative (When The Ballot Box No Longer Counts, The Ammunition Box Does. (What's In Your Ammo Box?))
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To: Moonman62
A larger market will also lead to more charging stations.

By the time we get there, battery technology will likely have improved dramatically as will the range of the vehicle.

We're going to need a lot more power generation stations though for all these electric vehicle.

28 posted on 07/29/2017 5:49:36 AM PDT by usconservative (When The Ballot Box No Longer Counts, The Ammunition Box Does. (What's In Your Ammo Box?))
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To: goldstategop

Or I could put $35 k into my 67 Camaro and 57 Bel Air. decisions, decisions. Which will still be around 30 years from now? My 50 year old cars, or the Tesla?


29 posted on 07/29/2017 5:51:59 AM PDT by DaxtonBrown
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To: goldstategop

What’s the effective range of the car in August with the ac running or January with the heater on?


30 posted on 07/29/2017 6:02:10 AM PDT by ops33 (SMSgt, USAF, Retired)
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To: hal ogen

Go ahead, tell us.
There’s a whole lotta disparaging vitriol spewed at Musk, without anything backing it up.
Yes, your legislature gives out $7500 to each buyer.
Tesla has paid back all loans, early, with interest.
Anything else?


31 posted on 07/29/2017 6:02:58 AM PDT by ctdonath2 (It's not "white privilege", it's "Puritan work ethic". Behavior begets consequences.)
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To: vette6387

I drove a Leaf for two years. Excellent for its price range.
That one can get a Tesla 3 for a few thousand more is amazing.


32 posted on 07/29/2017 6:05:50 AM PDT by ctdonath2 (It's not "white privilege", it's "Puritan work ethic". Behavior begets consequences.)
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To: BBB333
They do just fine in the cold and snow.

I'm sure the car is fine. We're talking about the passenger frozen to death because he ran out of charge.

33 posted on 07/29/2017 6:10:52 AM PDT by palmer (...if we do not have strong families and strong values, then we will be weak and we will not survive)
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To: Blue Highway

Fiber optic cables that these days mostly carry Netflix, porn and malware.


34 posted on 07/29/2017 6:11:32 AM PDT by Moonman62 (Make America Great Again!)
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To: usconservative
I have heard that the battery life is a little diminished in the extreme cold weather but not bad enough that someone wouldn't make it where ever they needed to go

Unless where you need to go is a few miles from civilization and you get stuck in a drift. With a gas engine and a bottle of water you will survive for days. With electric your bottle of water will freeze and you will die of thirst or hypothermia.

35 posted on 07/29/2017 6:12:59 AM PDT by palmer (...if we do not have strong families and strong values, then we will be weak and we will not survive)
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To: EQAndyBuzz
"That's cute for a coal powered car"

That depends on where you live. In Texas, coal supplies only 25% of the power and that is falling fast. Within 10 years or less, there will be no coal power in Texas, because they are all losing money.

In addition to the federal subsidy, Texas has a $2500 subsidy on electric cars, but you can't apply it to Teslas because it is illegal to sell Teslas in Texas because Tesla doesn't use dealers.

36 posted on 07/29/2017 6:15:06 AM PDT by Ben Ficklin
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To: goldstategop

Looks like a potato with wheels battery included.


37 posted on 07/29/2017 6:18:33 AM PDT by Vaduz (women and children to be impacted the most.)
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To: palmer

Fools around these parts run out of gas.


38 posted on 07/29/2017 6:19:00 AM PDT by BBB333 (The Power Of Trump Compels You!)
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To: BBB333

What’s the range of an e-car with the heat on? Normal real cars use the waste heat form the combustion process to heat the car’s cabin. E-cars cannot, so range is diminished.


39 posted on 07/29/2017 6:20:33 AM PDT by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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To: Moonman62

It definitely looks better than the leaf or the volt. Never liked the Prius styling much either. Don’t even get me started on that goofy looking BMW.


40 posted on 07/29/2017 6:21:52 AM PDT by smokingfrog ( sleep with one eye open (<o> ---)
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