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Oregon Poised To Decriminalize Meth, Cocaine And Heroin
dailycaller.com ^ | 7/7/17 | Anders Hagstrom

Posted on 07/09/2017 9:47:58 AM PDT by ColdOne

The Oregon legislature passed two bills Thursday decriminalizing small amounts of six hard drugs, including cocaine, heroin, methamphetamine and ecstasy.

The first of the two bills now headed to the governor’s desk, HB 2355, decriminalizes possession of the drugs so long as the offender has neither a felony nor more than two prior drug convictions on record, according to the Lund Report. The second, HB 3078, reduces drug-related property crimes from felonies to misdemeanors.

Republican State Sen. Jackie Winters claimed the war on drugs as it currently exists amounts to “institutional racism” due to how more frequently minorities are charged with drug crimes than whites.

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TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; News/Current Events; US: Oregon
KEYWORDS: bluestates; cocaine; heroin; meth; wod
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To: TTFX

“...the people who are hurt by drugs are mainly those who choose to use it.”

No, the people who are hurt by drugs are those who are losing family members or friends to them. You need to adjust your thinking cap, FRiend.


41 posted on 07/09/2017 10:31:20 AM PDT by beelzepug (Anybody I attack may rest assured it's personal!)
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To: BobL

We are told that pot use doesn’t lead to harder drugs but pot legalization leads to legalization of harder drugs.

Why not go whole hog from the get go and put everything on the table all at once?

Why incrementalism?


42 posted on 07/09/2017 10:34:41 AM PDT by a fool in paradise ( Mr. Comey, did you engage in or know of ANY OTHER leaks?)
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To: beelzepug

What a combination of self-loathing LIBs and losers. They seek death in oregon. What fools. At some level it is sad that they can’t deal with life.


43 posted on 07/09/2017 10:35:38 AM PDT by hal ogen (First Amendment or Reeducation camp?)
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To: BobL

Yep, the Left always ridicules the slippery slope argument and then uses it over and over again to achieve their destructive goals. Remember how they wanted to legalize Marijuana just for medical reasons? Remember you were cold hearted if you didn’t. Well, now we have legalized Marijuana. And now that’s not enough. Now heroin and methods. Yeah, no slippery slope, right?

Same with homosexuality, another perfect example of designed incrementalism by the evil left.


44 posted on 07/09/2017 10:37:36 AM PDT by Obadiah (Global warming caused Hillary to lose the election.)
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To: ColdOne
More destruction of society. Horrible.
Gotta keep the masses drugged up.

They don't already have enough democrats?


45 posted on 07/09/2017 10:40:12 AM PDT by Vlad The Inhaler (We were Trumpers before Trumpin' was cool !)
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To: Obadiah

“Remember how they wanted to legalize Marijuana just for medical reasons? “

There was a babe that I debated in a local forum...she was just for medical MJ. I pressed her, and pressed her, and then she literally admitted that yes, medical first, open-use next.

That was at least 5 years ago, but I remember it vividly, because she was legit...she was being honest, at the end.


46 posted on 07/09/2017 10:46:28 AM PDT by BobL (In Honor of the NeverTrumpers, I declare myself as FR's first 'Imitation NeverTrumper')
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To: JohnyBoy

[ >Meth is a white thing

Nope. It’s a under class thing in general now. ]

I sometimes wonder how many people in the middle and upper middle class use meth as a caffeine substitute because they have to work to pay for all the other crap the bum in society get for free....


47 posted on 07/09/2017 10:49:06 AM PDT by GraceG ("It's better to have all the Right Enemies, than it is to have all the Wrong Friends.")
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To: ColdOne

Oh, dear, hate to wish this Oregonian FReepers, but maybe a bunch of the druggies in Maryland will now move there.


48 posted on 07/09/2017 10:52:55 AM PDT by Bigg Red (Vacate the chair! Ryan must go.)
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To: cicero2k

I just looked it up. Crime is up 7% in Denver since pot became legal.

Must be people stealing Doritos from the 7-11 to support their new ‘munchies’ habit. ;)


49 posted on 07/09/2017 10:53:42 AM PDT by Diana in Wisconsin (I don't have 'Hobbies.' I'm developing a robust Post-Apocalyptic skill set!)
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To: cicero2k

I just looked it up. Crime is up 7% in Denver since pot became legal.

Must be people stealing Doritos from the 7-11 to support their new ‘munchies’ habit. ;)


50 posted on 07/09/2017 10:53:44 AM PDT by Diana in Wisconsin (I don't have 'Hobbies.' I'm developing a robust Post-Apocalyptic skill set!)
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To: BobL
I call it the liberal ratchet effect. I am facebook friends with a high school classmate who has turned into a gay activist.

Just a few minutes after the boy scouts voted to allow gay scouts, he posted. Was he happy? Nope. Those homophobic racist bottom dwellers at the boy scouts wouldn't allow gay leaders.

Around a year later, the boy scouts voted to allow gay leaders...if the sponsoring church or other local organization agreed. Was he happy...nope...another rant about how awful the scouts were.

He will never give an inch...never acknowledge that those with opposing beliefs are sincere.

I've concluded that liberals see all others as abnormalities...not even deserving full status as human beings (an example would be BLM encouraging killing cops). IOW, they would rather kill a conservative than debate ideas...and I mean that.

51 posted on 07/09/2017 10:56:08 AM PDT by lacrew
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To: OttawaFreeper

[ Maybe many here would disagree, but I recall a few years ago Ann Coulter making the point that back when drugs and brothels were legal (you could snort cocaine right in front of the U.S. Capitol Building without issue when Lincoln was President and you probably could have done the same thing in front of the old Parliament Buildings when Sir John A MacDonald was my country’s Prime Minister), there was no welfare and other government goodies to get addicted to.

Therefore, those who would advocate drug legalization ought to also consider getting the government out of welfare and propping up single mothers who keep getting knocked up and going from boyfriend to boyfriend, in the name of consistency (if nothing else I guess). ]

The welfare state enables so much other bad behavior without consequence that we really should use it as a bargaining chip for drug legalization.

Tell the libs, you want drug legalization, fine but it will cost you ALL FORMS OF WELFARE in exchange!

But the RINOs in congress are not savvy enough to pull that off without giving away the farm....


52 posted on 07/09/2017 10:56:15 AM PDT by GraceG ("It's better to have all the Right Enemies, than it is to have all the Wrong Friends.")
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To: beelzepug

‘No, the people who are hurt by drugs are those who are losing family members or friends to them.’

far more people lose family and friends due to traffic accidents, many of which are caused by bad and illegal driving; should we thus criminalize the operation of a motor vehicle, for the benefit of those family and friends...?


53 posted on 07/09/2017 10:59:44 AM PDT by IrishBrigade
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To: DIRTYSECRET

The drug legalization crowd doesn’t realize just how much damage is being caused outside of the major cities by all of the warring drug trafficking factions.


54 posted on 07/09/2017 11:03:38 AM PDT by factoryrat (We are the producers, the creators. Grow it, mine it, build it. MAGA!)
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To: JohnyBoy

Legalizing drugs will result in a massive increase in criminal activity because it loosens rational thinking and inhibitions.


Yes, just like ending alcohol prohibition caused ‘a massive increase in criminal activity’.


55 posted on 07/09/2017 11:03:42 AM PDT by TTFX
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To: beelzepug

No, the people who are hurt by drugs are those who are losing family members or friends to them.


They’re losing them right now, so that’s an argument against the war on drugs.

When drugs are legal the quality is better, the drug one gets is less likely to be diluted with more dangerous substances, so therefore they will cause less loss of self control or other harmful effects to the users.


56 posted on 07/09/2017 11:07:23 AM PDT by TTFX
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To: TTFX

‘When drugs are legal the quality is better, the drug one gets is less likely to be diluted with more dangerous substances, so therefore they will cause less loss of self control or other harmful effects to the users.’

ever since I was old enough to know what drugs were, sixty years or so, it has amazed me that people cannot see the rationality of regulation of drugs, similar to alcohol and tobacco, so that the deleterious effects of criminalization could be mitigated...


57 posted on 07/09/2017 11:14:24 AM PDT by IrishBrigade
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To: factoryrat

The drug legalization crowd doesn’t realize just how much damage is being caused outside of the major cities by all of the warring drug trafficking factions


That damage you’re talking about is occurring WHILE DRUGS ARE ILLEGAL. So making them illegal doesn’t stop it, but it does create nice profits to the cartels.

If drugs are legal, the former will still occur to some degree, but the latter will stop, so it will be better.


58 posted on 07/09/2017 11:14:51 AM PDT by TTFX
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To: BobL
I used to be Libertarian" to drug use. I am now absolutely against legalization of drugs. Drugs have destroyed the cities,are prevalent on every college campus and we have a major epidemic of meth and Oxycontin from coast to coast. It is eating our future generations alive.

The weed thing has not come close to being as promised and has opened the door to more nefarious drug use and societal rot. The booze is legal argument and a little personal weed is innocent has nothing to do with what the greater issue facing us as society.

Government as a drug regulator,taxer and enabler/pusher of Schedule 1 drugs is disgusting. Take a tour of a rehab or look up the stories of people and families destroyed by its use.

59 posted on 07/09/2017 11:17:14 AM PDT by shanover (...To disarm the people is the best and most effectual way to enslave them.-S.Adams)
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To: TTFX

Visit a rescue center, sit outside a drug treatment center, and see for yourself the anguish and hopelessness in the eyes of the addicted. I doubt they would have dabbled in the substances if they knew what they would become.

Anyone with a sound mind would not want to touch meth, cocaine, or heroin with a 10 foot pole. Are you a user?


60 posted on 07/09/2017 11:20:39 AM PDT by stars & stripes forever (Blessed is the nation whose God is the Lord. Psalm 33:12)
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