Posted on 06/26/2017 8:17:29 AM PDT by GonzoII
The Supreme Court decided Monday to hear a case involving a Colorado baker's refusal to design and make a cake for a same-sex marriage.
The baker, Jake Phillips, declined to make the custom cake and said it conflicted with his religious beliefs. The Colorado Civil Rights Commission decided that Phillips' actions amounted to sexual orientation discrimination under the Colorado Anti-Discrimination Act.
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Thanks for noting.
This one is ez - there are plenty of other places that would do this. No reason to force this one place to do it.
I am hoping for a slap down here.
They haven’t ruled yet.
Trained legal minds would surely have an answer to this question. Doesn’t a law have to apply across the board to all citizens and not to an individual or a group?
Any bakery owned by muslins would refuse a homosexual cake. But they don’t get targeted, baited, entrapped or fined by social justice commissions.
It seems odd that individual citizens can get nailed for taking a stand while whole population groups who do the same are free to continue without a comment.
I’m aware...
The LGBTQs don’t really want a cake. They could get that from an LGBTQ baker. What they really want is a Christian baker to REFUSE so the law suits and court cases ensue.
But to what end? To force the guy to bake a cake. Which he probably won’t do. Or he’ll mix feces in with it. Stupid stupid stupid waste of money and time.
They want to bring Christianity to its knees.
The individuals being singled out here are ones in business. Muslims would also be effected.
This nonsense has been foisted on us by public accomodation laws which strip rights from anyone in business. IMHO, this is patently unconstitutional if applied to the self employed.
No, I’m not a lawyer.
From "Stay out of my bedroom" (which I am happy to do, BTW), to
"Celebrate me or I'll sue you into oblivion" in one generation.
Until muzzies are arrested or fined for not serving gays, normal people, people with working dogs, doing that to Christians is unfair, illegal, and immoral.
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This would not have happened had the bakery shop been owned by Muslims...of course SS couples would not have gone to such a place.....double standards.
The goal is punish "bigots" and force them out of business and, ultimately, to destroy the religious freedom to dissent against homosexuality.
They try to hire a gay caterer to cater their event and he refuses. Should he be forced to cater the event or get fined out of business?
You might want to see how a similar case went in another state. And in this case, the state also went after the business owner:
Arlene’s Flower Shop:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arlene%27s_Flowers_lawsuit
It takes four judges on SCOTUS to agree to hear a case. If so, it would be a good bet it was Gorsuch rather than Kennedy that agreed to hear it.
We can do this: one man’s rights end where another man’s rights begin. Nobody should be able to enslave anybody.
Having said that, the ruling will probably focus on the distinction between a private business and a public business.
A prostitute can discriminate on any basis at all, because of the intimate service he or she provides. But a restaurant cannot discriminate on the basis of race.
So, considering the matter carefully, I will issue my fatwah:
A business may not withhold the sale of any standard product or service offered for sale to the public, except in for reasons that are sensible (such as a height restriction on riders of roller coasters).
However, a business may refuse to customize the products or services it offers on any basis other than those bases restricted by law; and,
Furthermore, because of the free exercise of religion, when sincerely-held religious beliefs are involved, business may even refuse to customize products or services in some cases where discrimination is restricted by law. Resolution of these conflicts involve balancing the free exercise of religion against the public utility involved.
In the case of wedding cakes, the available of standard products and services is a close substitute for customized products and services, so even where a particular baker has a local monopoly, the scales are tipped in favor of the free exercise of religion.
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