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Supreme Court justices side with church in playground dispute
USA TODAY ^ | 6-26-17 | Richard Wolf

Posted on 06/26/2017 7:05:26 AM PDT by aMorePerfectUnion

Edited on 06/26/2017 7:38:33 AM PDT by Sidebar Moderator. [history]

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TOPICS: Breaking News; Constitution/Conservatism; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: church; scotus; supremecourt
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To: CIB-173RDABN

“The left have gone too far in their attempt to remove all religion (except Muslim which for some reason they find okay) from the public space.”

You haven’t yet figured out why the Democrats favor Islam? Militant Islam is the armed wing of the DNC.


21 posted on 06/26/2017 7:51:10 AM PDT by EQAndyBuzz ("“In America, we don’t worship government, we worship God.”" DJT)
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To: Cboldt

My goodness, Sotomeyer is a fool. Her dissent is the convoluted meanderings of a blathering doomsayer. She stretches the anti-establishment clause so far that indeed if the court were to hear a challenge to local police offering traffic control for after busy church services she would rule against such actions.

To read her tell I almost think she believes the church somehow will permeate the new playground surface with penetrating Jesus vapors whereby those poor innocent children become brainless drones of the Christian hegemony. Marching off the establish and conquer in the name of Jesus.


22 posted on 06/26/2017 7:53:31 AM PDT by lastchance (Credo.)
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To: Bon of Babble

This decision moves the Overton window to the right as far as religious liberty. Good news.


23 posted on 06/26/2017 7:55:47 AM PDT by Sidebar Moderator
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To: 100American

I am not sure you are agreeing, disagreeing or just adding information... but that was the point of my post. There is no separation of Religion, just that the government can not establish one.


24 posted on 06/26/2017 7:58:42 AM PDT by CIB-173RDABN (US out of the UN, UN out of the US)
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To: Repeal 16-17

According to the opinion, the vote was 7-2.


25 posted on 06/26/2017 8:00:26 AM PDT by Rusty0604
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To: lastchance
Reading SCOTUSblog liveblog, Sotomayor's delivery of her dissent from the bench was snarky, too.

Let her stew in her own juices. Reminds of the liberals on the WI Supreme Court. Real pieces of work, they are.

26 posted on 06/26/2017 8:03:18 AM PDT by Cboldt
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To: Repeal 16-17

A part of the Missouri constitution forbids the state from funding any church. I believe it was put in to prevent the funding of parochial schools which were and still are pretty prominent in many parts of the state. So because of this clause, the state can reimburse any group that provides for rubber safety coverings for playgrounds except churches.


27 posted on 06/26/2017 8:03:44 AM PDT by hanamizu
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To: Cboldt

I think that would be an inedible stew.


28 posted on 06/26/2017 8:05:32 AM PDT by lastchance (Credo.)
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To: EQAndyBuzz

Militant Islam is the armed wing of the DNC.- If true, they are fools.


29 posted on 06/26/2017 9:05:28 AM PDT by CIB-173RDABN (US out of the UN, UN out of the US)
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To: aMorePerfectUnion

I sat on a Christian school board for several years. We were constantly solicited by “well meaning” state agencies to provide services such as CPR training. The intentions seemed good, until we read state and federal statute rulings for non profits. This is the govt’s way to hand tie religious institutions and their efforts are deliberate.


30 posted on 06/26/2017 10:15:44 AM PDT by Son-Joshua (son-joshua)
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To: OrangeHoof

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Wow. We need the Supreme Court now to rule on playgrounds??? They’ve already decided all the important issues??
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Nobody seems to understand how many cases the SC *could* take in a year *IF* they used the Constitution as the 1st/only reference.

As you said, 180 degrees from start and a ruling of 300+ pages (or whatever it turns out to be) of case site vs. case site vs., not a ONE (I’d bet) referencing any Amendment (let alone the 1st).

The People may start to get the idea they have Rights


31 posted on 06/26/2017 10:28:01 AM PDT by i_robot73 ("A man chooses. A slave obeys." - Andrew Ryan)
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To: Wuli

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People have begun to have the “discrimination” idea backwards when it comes to many “separation of church and state” issues.

While the federal policy machinery should not FAVOR some religious outfit, over others, when it comes the granting federal funds to citizens, for anything, it should not discriminate against religious organizations, eliminating them from allocations it provides to other citizens.

Separation of church and state has come to mean SANCTIONING AGAINST, DISCRIMINATING AGAINST the religious. That is a totally modern Progressive constitutional interpretation.
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Easier fix is to stop the illegal/unconstitutional theft and redistribution of taxpayer property, church or no church.

Then, those that want to donate are more than free to do as they wish w/ their property/time/$$.

No ‘issue’, no quandary, no SC case.

*AMAZING* the ‘issues’ solved by simply following the Constitution.


32 posted on 06/26/2017 10:33:52 AM PDT by i_robot73 ("A man chooses. A slave obeys." - Andrew Ryan)
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To: lodi90

It’s great news as a group of leftist swill judges were reversed again.


33 posted on 06/26/2017 10:58:26 AM PDT by MSF BU (Support the troops: Join Them.)
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To: editor-surveyor
The clause in the constitution merely protected the right of the states to make the decisions.

In this case, the State (Missouri) made a decision: the Missouri State Constitution bars any state aid to religious schools. SCOTUS said that Missouri's Constitution violates the federal First Amendment.

34 posted on 06/26/2017 2:19:54 PM PDT by Lurking Libertarian (Non sub homine, sed sub Deo et lege)
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To: Lurking Libertarian

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Baffles me!

I don’t see how it involves the 1st.
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35 posted on 06/26/2017 2:45:26 PM PDT by editor-surveyor (Freepers: Not as smart as I'd hoped they'd be)
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To: CIB-173RDABN

Yes we are in complete agreement

Thanks


36 posted on 06/26/2017 3:38:14 PM PDT by 100American (Knowledge is knowing how, Wisdom is knowing when)
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To: editor-surveyor
Baffles me! I don’t see how it involves the 1st.

According to the SCOTUS majority, Missouri violated the Church's right to "free exercise of religion" because it gave state aid to nonreligious private schools and not to religious ones.

37 posted on 06/26/2017 3:38:30 PM PDT by Lurking Libertarian (Non sub homine, sed sub Deo et lege)
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To: i_robot73

I don’t disagree.

MEANWHILE, b4 winning THAT battle, we can admit it is ALSO unconstitutional to discriminate against the religious when the government IS handing out favors.


38 posted on 06/26/2017 4:44:46 PM PDT by Wuli
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To: editor-surveyor

That is in part why I put “separation of church and state” in quotes. It does not come from the Constitution, but from misinterpretation of the Constitution.


39 posted on 06/26/2017 4:46:48 PM PDT by Wuli
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To: Wuli

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MEANWHILE, b4 winning THAT battle, we can admit it is ALSO unconstitutional to discriminate against the religious when the government IS handing out favors.
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HA! You expect govt to be consistent/logical while being in this illegal state of being? /s


40 posted on 06/26/2017 6:26:54 PM PDT by i_robot73 ("A man chooses. A slave obeys." - Andrew Ryan)
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