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Shooter of Congressional Republicans rifle already being called "high-powered."
Fox News | 14 June 2017 | Ralph W. Davis

Posted on 06/14/2017 2:25:02 PM PDT by AnalogReigns

Listening to Fox News, the gun the shooter used has been identified as an SKS with 7.62 X 39 ammo, with a scope, and called a "high powered rifle."

Of course an SKS is not high powered, or particularly accurate....but the ignorance, fear, and bias of the Media--even on Fox--is already coming out--to pound the drum against the 2nd Amendment.


TOPICS: Breaking News; Constitution/Conservatism; News/Current Events; Your Opinion/Questions
KEYWORDS: 2ndamendment; banglist; guns; hodgkinson; insurrection; liberalviolence; postvanitiesinchat; progressiveviolence; shooter; terror; wheresthelink
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To: \/\/ayne
I certainly think of 7.62 X 39 as high powered. So what? The amount of bullet power in this situation is irrelevant.

At 50 yards which is approximately the range of todays nasty episode the projectile from a 7.62 x 39 has approximately 1292 foot pounds of energy. The projectile from a 30-06 Springfield has approximately 2664 foot pounds of energy at 50 yards. But at 50 yards both projectiles will make a big hole that will do a lot of damage.

7.62 x 39 is one of my favorite cartridges. It is a great cartridge to reload. I use a 160 grain homemade cast heat treated bullet with a recipe that produces approximately 2300 fps. A more powerful cartridge such as the 30-06 uses approximately the same weight projectile but propels it at over 3000 fps so you must use jacketed bullets.

“AK” style rifles are designed more for durability and dependability than accuracy. But the accuracy can be pretty good if you put a little extra effort into your reloads and your rifle.

161 posted on 06/14/2017 11:41:32 PM PDT by fireman15
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To: LonePalm

Do some research and get back to me,You are wrong .


162 posted on 06/15/2017 3:06:32 AM PDT by Farmer Dean (anything worth doing is worth overdoing,moderation is for cowards)
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To: fireman15
Yes, I totally agree that 7.62 X 39 is on the low end of high powered and could even be considered not high powered. I grew up shooting my dad's Remington 30-06 in the desert which unfortunately was ripped off from him by a worker in his last years.

You get my point that liberal news media find a phrase that makes guns seem more "dangerous" and use it for no reason. Yes, "high powered" might be more "dangerous" shooting through a door. But, nobody was shooting through a door in this case. It's totally irrelevant. They just know hoplophobes will get an extra shiver.

I like 7.62 x 39, too. It's fun to shoot and I agree with you about "AK" style rifles, too.
163 posted on 06/15/2017 4:32:39 AM PDT by \/\/ayne (I regret that I have but one subscription cancellation notice to give to my local newspaper.)
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To: GrandJediMasterYoda
Is that you, Borat?


164 posted on 06/15/2017 5:11:39 AM PDT by Cletus.D.Yokel (Catastrophic, Anthropogenic Climate Alterations: The acronym explains the science.)
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To: LonePalm

I own an AK47 and it is 7.62x39


165 posted on 06/15/2017 6:08:28 AM PDT by ChildOfThe60s ("If you can remember the 60s........you weren't really there")
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To: Paladin2

“Is a 22lr with a hot load high powered? A 50BMG?”

What’ll they do when they find out about the horrendous 22 MAGNUM ?? /sarc


166 posted on 06/15/2017 6:13:43 AM PDT by litehaus (A memory toooo long.............)
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To: Cletus.D.Yokel

LOL! My daughter is prostitute in Khasikstan I am proud. LOL.


167 posted on 06/15/2017 7:30:07 AM PDT by GrandJediMasterYoda (Hillary Clinton IS a felon)
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To: reg45
High powered enough to be lethal. Ask any Viet-Nam veteran.

By that standard, a pellet gun can be considered "high powered", because it can be lethal.
168 posted on 06/15/2017 7:46:58 AM PDT by Sopater (Is it not lawful for me to do what I will with mine own? - Matthew 20:15a)
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To: Godebert

“The M40 is a bolt action rifle used by the USMC and is based on the Remington 700.”

I was just quoting the referenced article word for word.

Other news reports said it was an AK-47.

I don’t trust the media. I don’t believe anything they say.


169 posted on 06/15/2017 7:52:43 AM PDT by detective
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To: so_real

Hard to believe there weren’t more and more serious injuries. Probably steel-jacketed Wolf rounds or some such.


170 posted on 06/15/2017 7:58:48 AM PDT by Fido969 (IN!)
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To: wastoute

I watched the video and with all of the shots he took, I was surprised- and thankful of course- that he didn’t hit more people.

I don’t know much about rifles, so thanks to all you gun deplorables for explaining things.


171 posted on 06/15/2017 8:11:35 AM PDT by homegroan
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To: LSUfan

Not if he removed the fixed mag and used a duckbill magazine.


172 posted on 06/15/2017 8:14:09 AM PDT by Bogey78O (So far so good.)
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To: LonePalm

No variant of the AK-47 fires 7.62x54R. Mosin Nagant and the Dragunov SVD are the popular rifles that fire it.


173 posted on 06/15/2017 8:21:16 AM PDT by Bogey78O (So far so good.)
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To: LonePalm
IIRC - the SKS takes a 7.63x39 while the AK-47 is chambered for the 7.62x54 round.

You don't recall correctly. The SKS and the AK47 both eat 7.62x39. The Mosin Nagant and Dragunov both eat 7.62x54r, which is more similar to a .30-06.
174 posted on 06/15/2017 9:05:34 AM PDT by Sopater (Is it not lawful for me to do what I will with mine own? - Matthew 20:15a)
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To: \/\/ayne
You get my point that liberal news media find a phrase that makes guns seem more “dangerous” and use it for no reason.

I understand your point and agree completely. In this case the cartridge chosen made very little (if any) difference as compared to a cartridge with more case volume for more propellant but a similar sized projectile. The terminology chosen by the media is intended to push the left’s agenda against the second amendment. As compared to a handgun cartridge, any 30 caliber rifle cartridge such as 7.62x39 is “high powered”.

We own a BM-59 semi-auto which is basically a Garand that has been re-chambered to 7.62×51mm NATO and fitted with a 30 cartridge magazine. It is very fun to shoot, but how much more dangerous would it actually be in the hands of an idiot. Effectively, not much other than slightly more impressive noise that it makes.

So sorry to hear about your dad's Remington being stolen. My grandfather's entire collection of vintage rifles was stolen many years ago. I was devastated. We also knew for sure who took them, but couldn't do anything about it.

175 posted on 06/15/2017 9:22:11 AM PDT by fireman15
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To: Sopater
You don't recall correctly. The SKS and the AK47 both eat 7.62x39. The Mosin Nagant and Dragunov both eat 7.62x54r, which is more similar to a .30-06.

You are correct, they achieve similar velocities and energy when using similar weight projectiles. Even the slightly smaller .308 Winchester was designed for more modern propellant and achieves similar muzzle velocities:

.30-06 Remington is 7.62x57
.308 Winchester is 7.62x51

176 posted on 06/15/2017 9:38:31 AM PDT by fireman15
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To: Paladin2

Russian special forces use a .22, the SV99, for sniping.
An older Soviet model was used with a plastic bottle silencer in the Balkans war.


177 posted on 06/15/2017 12:55:30 PM PDT by tumblindice ("Fight for your country." Hector)
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To: Drew68

A .22 will kill. As I understand it, it has no stopping power unless the target is multiple times. Get a 25 round clip and have fun.


178 posted on 06/15/2017 3:33:53 PM PDT by Terry Mross (Liver spots And blood thinners.,)
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To: LoneStarGI

I was surprised by the loudness of my single action .22 Heritage revolver.


179 posted on 06/15/2017 3:35:36 PM PDT by Terry Mross (Liver spots And blood thinners.,)
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To: Sopater
The 7.62x39 is actually an intermediary round between a rifle and pistol round.Ummm, no. 124 grain bullet at 2400 feet per second. It is referred to as intermediate rifle round. Not a 30-06, but still very potent. Pretty close to the ballistics of a 30-30
180 posted on 06/15/2017 4:54:54 PM PDT by Aut Pax Aut Bellum (Stay Calm and Carry.)
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