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Big Bang Blowup at Scientific American
Institute for Creation Research ^ | 5-30-2017 | Jake Hebert, Ph.D.

Posted on 05/30/2017 10:44:18 AM PDT by fishtank

Big Bang Blowup at Scientific American

by Jake Hebert, Ph.D. *

The February 2017 issue of Scientific American contains an article by three prominent theoretical physicists from Princeton and Harvard who strongly question the validity of cosmic inflation, an important part of the modern Big Bang theory.1 They argued that inflation can never be shown to be wrong—it cannot be falsified—and therefore inflation isn’t even a scientific hypothesis.

Inflation theory was proposed by physicist Alan Guth to solve a number of serious problems in early versions of the Big Bang model. Supposedly, the universe underwent an extremely short period of accelerated expansion right after the Big Bang.

However, physicists later realized this version of inflation theory was too simplistic.

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TOPICS: Culture/Society; Philosophy
KEYWORDS: creation; liberalmedia; origins; science
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To: Charles Martel

What happens at Meyer’s place, stays at Meyer’s place. :)


101 posted on 05/30/2017 4:20:33 PM PDT by meyer (The Constitution says what it says, and it doesn't say what it doesn't say.)
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To: circlecity
"They argued that inflation can never be shown to be wrong—it cannot be falsified—and therefore inflation isn’t even a scientific hypothesis."
One can say the same thing about Darwinian evolution

Giant wishful leap, there, Skippy!

102 posted on 05/30/2017 4:28:52 PM PDT by publius911 (I SUPPORT MY PRESIDENT?)
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To: Mr. Douglas
The whole thing really cracks me up. For me, big bang = “let there be light.”

There is a funnier version...

"First there was nothing.

Then it exploded!"

103 posted on 05/30/2017 4:33:15 PM PDT by publius911 (I SUPPORT MY PRESIDENT?)
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To: Telepathic Intruder

Interestingly, the medieval mystic Julian of Norwich, in one of her “showings” (visions), was shown something about the size of a hazelnut. She was told that this was all that was created. She asked how something that small could survive, and was told that “it survives because God loveth it.”

The size of a hazelnut? All that was created? How did that turn into this? Could Julian have gotten a vision about the Big Bang without realizing it?


104 posted on 05/30/2017 5:19:43 PM PDT by TBP (0bama lies, Granny dies.)
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To: HLPhat

I agree absolutely.


105 posted on 05/30/2017 5:19:48 PM PDT by cbvanb
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To: LegendHasIt
Neither; Scientific
or
American.

Discuss

At one time it was both.
I clearly remember learning of several now mainstream beliefs; Cognitive dissonance comes to mind.

By the time the "global cooling/global warming/climate change" fraud came along, the once respected publication had lost all credibility for me and I had long before cancelled my subscription.
It had succumbed to political correctness/consensus fake science.

The new abominable religion.

106 posted on 05/30/2017 5:20:50 PM PDT by publius911 (I SUPPORT MY PRESIDENT?)
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To: HLPhat

Your view is pretty much like mine. What caused it was God. But most scientists, being materialists, won’t go there.

Materialist science can easily be refuted, however. I prefer “science within consciousness.”


107 posted on 05/30/2017 5:21:37 PM PDT by TBP (0bama lies, Granny dies.)
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To: FredZarguna; HLPhat

Please, do continue with the argument I’m not involved in...


108 posted on 05/30/2017 5:22:30 PM PDT by Hugh the Scot ( Total War)
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To: USFRIENDINVICTORIA
...sneering condensation...

Shouldn't that be part of the global cooling/global warming/climate change faith??

109 posted on 05/30/2017 5:29:42 PM PDT by publius911 (I SUPPORT MY PRESIDENT?)
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To: Telepathic Intruder

A very good description of how science is supposed to work. The problem with some folks is if you believe that a particular book is 100% the unerring word of God then you cannot allow even one tiny part of it to be shown inaccurate or your whole world view is demolished. They then project that onto scientific theory, attempting to say that if any part of a theory has problems it disproves the whole. Science doesn’t work that way, but you cannot argue with a closed mind, be it religious faith or global warming pseudo science.


110 posted on 05/30/2017 5:32:58 PM PDT by Hugin (Conservatism without Nationalism is a fraud.)
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To: circlecity
One can say the same thing about Darwinian evolution.

And Globull(shit) warming too.

111 posted on 05/30/2017 5:34:31 PM PDT by usconservative (When The Ballot Box No Longer Counts, The Ammunition Box Does. (What's In Your Ammo Box?))
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To: TBP

If the universe has a finite size, and is the only thing in existence, then its size can only be described as relative to itself and the things in it. In which case its actual size doesn’t matter. Just like when people ask “what is the universe expanding into?”, its a non sequitur because it’s expanding relative to itself and nothing else. But this is like asking how many angels can dance on the head of a pin. Theoretically the known universe was once far smaller than a single atom, and expanded to the size of a grape fruit in the tiniest fraction of a second. All the matter and energy in the universe phase changed at this point from the quantum vacuum. Is anyone really willing to say it’s impossible for God to have done this?


112 posted on 05/30/2017 5:43:19 PM PDT by Telepathic Intruder
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To: Hugin
"The problem with some folks is if you believe that a particular book is 100% the unerring word of God then you cannot allow even one tiny part of it to be shown inaccurate "

But we know that the Bible contains a lot of metaphor. Am I supposed to believe that knowledge is a fruit growing on a tree somewhere near the Tigris and Euphrates rivers? We have to use some common sense. I don't believe the Bible is a science text book any more than I believe science can tell us about God. One is a painter and the other is a painting, metaphorically. You can't know Picasso by studying his paintings.

The problem I have with rejecting science for religion is this: if we have to limit God to our understanding of Him, doesn't that just mean our faith in Him is small? We can't be afraid to look too closely at nature for fear of our faith being challenged.
113 posted on 05/30/2017 5:56:52 PM PDT by Telepathic Intruder
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To: Telepathic Intruder

When I was young, I said to God, ‘God, tell me the mystery of the universe.’ But God answered, ‘That knowledge is for me alone.’ So I said, ‘God, tell me the mystery of the peanut.’ Then God said, ‘Well George, that’s more nearly your size.’ And he told me.


I like George Washington Carver’s perspective. But the more one studies science and sees all the systems interacting, the more one says, this did not happened by chance. Science gets more interesting if one knows there is a design.

If one thinks it is all random and by chance, you can not apply science. you can’t replicate an experiment as it is all random. The results will be different every time.


114 posted on 05/30/2017 6:16:06 PM PDT by PeterPrinciple (Thinking Caps are no longer being issued but there must be a warehouse full of them somewhere.)
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To: mowowie
The Last Question by Isaac Asimov © 1956

Beautiful story!
It's no wonder that it's Asimov's personal favorite of all his own works...

115 posted on 05/30/2017 6:25:20 PM PDT by publius911 (I SUPPORT MY PRESIDENT?)
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To: Telepathic Intruder

I (don’t)believe science can tell us about God. One is a painter and the other is a painting, metaphorically. You can’t know Picasso by studying his paintings.


General Revelation:

Question: “What is general revelation and special revelation?”

Answer: General revelation and special revelation are the two ways God has chosen to reveal Himself to humanity. General revelation refers to the general truths that can be known about God through nature. Special revelation refers to the more specific truths that can be known about God through the supernatural.

In regard to general revelation, Psalm 19:1-4 declares, “The heavens declare the glory of God; the skies proclaim the work of His hands. Day after day they pour forth speech; night after night they display knowledge. There is no speech or language where their voice is not heard. Their voice goes out into all the earth, their words to the ends of the world.” According to this passage, God’s existence and power can be clearly seen through observing the universe. The order, intricacy, and wonder of creation speak to the existence of a powerful and glorious Creator.
https://www.gotquestions.org/general-special-revelation.html

Regarding Picasso, I have some thoughts about him after observing his paintings...............


116 posted on 05/30/2017 6:27:07 PM PDT by PeterPrinciple (Thinking Caps are no longer being issued but there must be a warehouse full of them somewhere.)
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To: cbvanb
I appreciate your reasoned response. I believe that God is the author of all things, but there is no sin in trying to understand how he did it. The answers may well be beyond our reach, but it is fun to try to figure out how it all happened.

Somewhere, wherever he may be, Diogenes just smiled...

117 posted on 05/30/2017 6:46:46 PM PDT by publius911 (I SUPPORT MY PRESIDENT?)
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To: PeterPrinciple

Yes I agree God can make himself known by watching the sunrise, contemplating the stars, or immersing yourself in the beauties of nature. The Bible also tells us to worship the God of nature instead of nature itself. You shouldn’t confuse the two.


118 posted on 05/30/2017 7:03:26 PM PDT by Telepathic Intruder
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To: Telepathic Intruder

I can appreciate the position you have outlined on this thread and would agree that we can’t or shouldn’t take the Bible OR Science on Faith alone.

“Because the Bible says so”, isn’t enough for me.

Simultaneously, “Because the Science says so”, when we consider the self admitted “Work in progress” nature of “Science” and its proponents over other considerations, the Bible, leaves one to their faith.

This is particularly troubling when our so called scientists accept and promote theories that don’t even adhere to their own scientific method.

At some point, upon any serious and thoughtful deliberation, you are left with three choices.

1. There is no Truth.
2. The truth lies within.
3. The truth lies without and has yet to be discovered.


119 posted on 05/30/2017 7:34:22 PM PDT by Zeneta
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To: HangnJudge

Just like National Geographic, now a liberal trash rag.


120 posted on 05/30/2017 7:40:45 PM PDT by Empireoftheatom48 (God did help the Republic, can we keep it.)
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