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Vanity: Corporate suicide by liberalism
cmj328

Posted on 05/23/2017 4:30:59 AM PDT by cmj328

Many public companies or public company products, including the following, have seriously damaged their brands' value (and stock price) in recent years by strident liberalism:

Starbucks
Target
ESPN
Fox News

Why is this happening? What does this say about corporate governance structures serving the interests of shareholders?


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KEYWORDS: corporateliberalism; defundtheleft
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1 posted on 05/23/2017 4:30:59 AM PDT by cmj328
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What blows my mind is the move to the Left by Fox. Since Ailes departure they seem to have decided to ditch success in favor of a “Progressive Ideology” that appears to be the aim of the Murdoch brothers wives. It is about time for the Old Man to step in and stop this trend before they become a third rate network.


2 posted on 05/23/2017 4:38:36 AM PDT by Old Retired Army Guy (frequently.)
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Political correctness is killing us, literally.


3 posted on 05/23/2017 4:40:48 AM PDT by caver (Trump: Home of the Winner)
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I see it as dereliction of their fiduciary responsibility. Why annoy half the country? For what reason? It cannot possibly benefit your bottom-line.
4 posted on 05/23/2017 4:42:19 AM PDT by ClearCase_guy (Abortion is what slavery was: immoral but not illegal. Not yet.)
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I haven’t watched or used any of the four you mentioned in some cases years.

I have also completely stopped watching the NFL


5 posted on 05/23/2017 4:44:13 AM PDT by stockpirate (SETH RICH gave the emails to wkikileaks, murdered he was)
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Remember, these corporate weenies have children in the schools that teach PC. Also, a lot of them are younger now and they have been taught PC all their lives. They think the nation is made up of PC inculcated weenies like them and that’s the market they are targeting.


6 posted on 05/23/2017 4:45:52 AM PDT by raybbr (That progressive bumper sticker on your car might just as well say, "Yes, I'm THAT stupid!")
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To: Old Retired Army Guy

You cannot compare filth like PMSNBC and Fox.

Not perfect.....never perfect..... it is far more conservative than any of the major news networks or print journalism.

Right now they have the Trump Middle East tour. While PMSNBC has on the fake news of the Trump/Russia connection.


7 posted on 05/23/2017 4:45:53 AM PDT by Vaquero ( Don't pick a fight with an old guy. If he is too old to fight, he'll just kill you.)
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To: Old Retired Army Guy

It says that corporation boards tend to become fiscally and managerially reactionary thereby hiring managerial rather than entrepreneurial directors.
Board members are lawyers, accountants, political operatives and fund managers. They are governed by ideology rather than business principles. They believe that customers are a fixed commodity unaffected by corporate policy.
Ivory tower elitists believe that the masses will follow wherever an effective ad campaign leads. Rather than admit their myopia they double down on their narrow agenda and destroy the business they manage.


8 posted on 05/23/2017 4:52:44 AM PDT by Louis Foxwell (Progressivism is 2 year olds in a poop fight.)
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Free market forces are no longer working. The failure of the federal government to enforce anti-trust law since the Reagan administration has resulted in corporate economic power in many industries concentrating in a few oligopolies. These mega corporations collude with progressive governments to stifle smaller competitors and when they can’t stifle new competitors, the leviathan government enables them to buy out the threat resulting in less competition and even more concentration of economic power.

Concentrated economic power, allied with a large socialist state results in:
1) Less competition
2) Less innovation
3) Concentration of wealth in the hands of a few
4) Corruption in government. Big corporations fund campaigns and buy votes in Congress.
5) A complex tax code, impossible for the average person to understand, and full of special provisions for big corporations, many of whom pay little or no taxes while small businesses and individuals are crushed.
6) Direct subsidies and/or exemptions from laws for mega corporations who buy political influence (GE, Solyndra, Tesla, big pharma).
7) A legal system too expensive for average citizens to seek redress from lawbreaking corporate actors.
8) Corruption of the judiciary (Kelo decision) where the property rights of citizens are trampled on by big corporations enabled by government.
9) Government intervention with subsidies to protect prop up financially ailing businesses from bankruptcies (remember 2008 and the bank and auto industry bailout). Local and state governments take tax revenue from small business while doling out tax exemptions and rebates to large businesses.
10) Fewer jobs. Every merger results in losses of hundreds if not thousands of middle class jobs.

The last few elections have proven the GOP serves the oligarchs and not the conservative voters they profess to serve.

All of the above serves to make the economy inefficient, society corrupt, and government rapacious at the expense of individual freedom. Breaking up the oligopolies into smaller companies will bring vigorous competition and innovation to stagnant markets as well as create more jobs.


9 posted on 05/23/2017 5:00:10 AM PDT by Soul of the South
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What bothers me is the political correctness that occurs within the companies. I worked for a large company for many years until not that long ago. Every month there were signs in the hallways and lobby “celebrating” the latest demographic... Black History Month, Gay Pride Month, etc. It reflects the values of the company. Hiring and promoting were based as much on skin color and sex as they were on talent and merit. Grrrr.... glad I retired.


10 posted on 05/23/2017 5:06:26 AM PDT by NJRighty ("It's sick out there and getting sicker" - Bob Grant)
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What does this say about corporate governance structures serving the interests of shareholders?

Many who have worked in corporate environments can probably recall and attest to the groupthink that permeates many/most of them.

A good example is United Way campaigns. Companies are obsessed with '100% Participation' and all the attendant bragging, badging, etc. to the point of devoting entire days and pulling every last person away from their offices, cubes and any critical projects to browbeat them about 100% participation.

The United Way has always been top-heavy with administration, but even after United Way executives were discovered to be living high on the hog, flying first class, etc. the mania for 100% participation did not wane.

Some employees occasionally ask to be allowed to make their donations directly to a charity they have a special affinity for due to family circumstances eg the American Cancer Society and for the donation to be recognized as - wait for it - 'their fair share' but to corporate virtue signalers this is simply not good enough.

If you ever seen or read 'The Chocolate War' then you get an idea of what sort of manipulation and pressure are involved in do-gooding and how people lose their minds when they are given a bit of power.

In the current era, corporations have gone well past anodyne charity appeals and are now box-ticking like mad: LGBT, illegal aliens, trannies, et al are all fodder for their image-boosting largesse to say nothing of the college-style elevation of minorities to positions well beyond their talents with their colleagues deadly afraid to point out the obvious. If efficiency, results, profitability, etc. can and do suffer then so be it.

Corporations take the normal fear of violating group norms and leverage it to the hilt.

11 posted on 05/23/2017 5:10:21 AM PDT by relictele
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To: Old Retired Army Guy

NewsCorp execs endorsed John Kerry in 2004. Fox News didn’t “suddenly” lurch Left. The administrative powers have been there awhile.


13 posted on 05/23/2017 5:25:36 AM PDT by a fool in paradise (patriots win, Communists and Socialist Just-Us Warriors lose)
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To: stockpirate

I haven’t watched or used any of the four you mentioned in some cases years.
I have also completely stopped watching the NFL

now that we know how virtuous you are, have you something to contribute to the point of the thread...?


14 posted on 05/23/2017 5:28:18 AM PDT by IrishBrigade
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Kellogs shot it’s wad too.


15 posted on 05/23/2017 5:30:54 AM PDT by Bonemaker
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Until boards of directors start going to jail, this will continue.


16 posted on 05/23/2017 5:31:23 AM PDT by Arm_Bears (Rope. Tree. Politician/Journalist. Some assembly required.)
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To: relictele

people lose their minds when they are given a bit of power.

the entire history of mankind is an exercise in the will to power attempting to conflate to the smallest possible entity, in order to usurp the maximum benefits...


17 posted on 05/23/2017 5:32:02 AM PDT by IrishBrigade
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The truth: It is happening because progressively funded investment fund managers and consultants publish negative projections and pseudo-intellectual hit pieces on companies that fail to meet their PC causes; so-called socially responsible investment funds have grown to ~$4 Trillion AUM. Not green enough, not diverse enough, then try to use “studies” to indicate this will hurt a companies bottom line and publish hit pieces, and in some cases fund litigation or proxy wars against target companies. Of course, they also don’t buy the stock as part of their (sometimes multi-billion) portfolios. Understand these are the fund managers that your 401k dollars may eventually go to, and you can see the problem. Investment has become entirely politicized, and if the large fund managers aren’t buying your stock, you will be hurt in the short term, which is what most shareholders and boards are responding to. I had dug out several examples of this in the past, but don’t have them at my fingertips.


18 posted on 05/23/2017 5:33:08 AM PDT by LambSlave
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Do you know where all those people who hold liberal arts degree specializing in gender, feminism, homosexual, African-America, or any other type cultural grievance studies get hired at?

The advent of globalism has put more of a focus on appeasing different cultures and employee “awareness”. Human Resource departments provides a bastion of opportunity for those specializing in those studies. Heaven help society when someone gets a BA in some grievance study and parlay that into an MBA or any economic graduate study.


19 posted on 05/23/2017 5:37:25 AM PDT by rollo tomasi (Working hard to pay for deadbeats and corrupt politicians.)
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To: Soul of the South

Excellent!


20 posted on 05/23/2017 5:40:05 AM PDT by Cen-Tejas (it's the debt bomb stupid)
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