Posted on 04/17/2017 4:28:32 AM PDT by huldah1776
It seems too good to be true. A simple and inexpensive treatment for one of the most dreadful conditions around: sepsis.
Also known as blood poisoning, sepsis strikes one million Americans every year, killing one-fourth of them.
Dr. Paul Marik, chief of pulmonary and critical care at Eastern Virginia Medical School, came up with the idea on little more than a whim.
His patient, 48-year-old Valerie Hobbs, was succumbing to sepsis and he had run out of options to save her. It was a desperation shot in the dark: Vitamin C. It worked. Beautifully. Again and again.
Valerie spent a lifetime crocheting blankets for people in her church and feeding the homeless. But then she came down with sepsis. And when everyone thought it would take her life, she was brought back from the brink of death.
"I feel blessed," she said, "I don't say lucky. I tell people, 'I'm not lucky because I didn't win the lottery.' I'm blessed. Because God could have took me. He got me here for a reason. To keep doing the stuff I do."
Valerie was "patient A," the first to receive an experimental treatment for sepsis that worked, and ended up working on many more patients after her.
Sepsis is the body's reaction to an infection. It usually occurs in people who are hospitalized. About a quarter of a million Americans die from sepsis every year, making it the most common cause of death among people who are hospitalized.
Valerie was about to become one of them. Dr. Marik was treating her in the Intensive Care Unit and knew her outlook was grim.
"When you see a patient dying," he said, "You can tell they are dying."
Dr. Marik told Valerie's daughter Anne to prepare for the worst.
"I just broke down and cried," Anne recalled. "I just broke down and cried."
Not long before that, Dr. Marik had been reading about the healing powers of Vitamin C. On a hunch, he gave 1.5 grams of it to Valerie intravenously (because the body can only absorb 500 milligrams when taken orally), along with the steroid hydrocortisone, to reduce inflammation. He would later add Vitamin B to the mixture three patients later.
"I went home not expecting that she would survive," Dr. Marik admitted, "The next morning when I got to work, she was off the blood pressure medication and she was off the ventilator two hours later and actually left the ICU three days later. So it was quite astonishing." Since then, Dr. Marik has treated over 150 septic patients the same way. Time after time they survive.
"This is quite miraculous in that patients who are critically ill, who are at death's door, when we give them this simple combination of medications it turns around their septic process," Dr. Marik said. "And within hours they're significantly better. So in a way, it is a miracle."
News of Dr. Marik's revolutionary Vitamin C cure for sepsis is sweeping the medical community from coast to coast. The reaction? Mixed.
"Some people think this is the coolest thing in the world," Dr. Marik said. "Others think this is complete b.s. and this could not possibly be true."
Dr. Marik says the skeptics are waiting on proof his protocol works in the form of a large, randomized study. However, that may be a very long wait. Most research like that is very expensive and is paid for by drug companies who are testing one of their products that they stand to make a lot of money from, once it's approved. Marik's protocol does not fit that description.
Dr. Marik says when considering his protocol, physicians with patients dying from sepsis need to weigh the pros and cons.
"My argument is, it's so safe, you've got nothing to lose," he said.
Not only is it safe, it's also cheap. This is good news, not only for America, but more so for poor countries. Worldwide, sepsis claims eight million lives every year.
My wife had a position like that for a while. She'd read through a crapload of literature and summarize stuff she found promising. The doctor(s) would sometimes request more info or more sources. They didn't have the time to wade through the dreck to get to the gold, so they paid her to.
“I won’t discount the possibility of positive uses of Vitamin C.”
I don’t discount the positive role of vitamin C in our body.
I discount hype articles. People that read this think it is a vitamin C miracle without realizing that he is also injecting hydrocortisone.
Read the linked articles in the post to which I was responding to. They are from peer reviewed sources and talked only about vitamin C. Much less hype than this article but evidence of potential benefits for sepsis patients.
Maybe this doctor has found synergistic effects with other treatments, I don’t know. But I look forward to scientific work to tell us how to improve outcomes in these cases.
“If you have read of Norman Cousins and his experience then perhaps there is validity on the uses of Vitamin C in treating some illness’.”
Please research the disease which he claimed to have had.
I'm not aware of any research that has put paid the 'reactionless' drive at present. From what I've read, the effect appears to be small, but measurable. The mechanism doesn't seem to be understood, but that's nothing new. You're no longer seeing an explosion of articles about it, because the initial hype has worn thin, but there are apparently folk still looking at it. That is how we move forward in our understanding of the world we live in. I don't think we yet know all there is to know about our universe, or how it works. I'm still interested in how it plays out, one way or another. If it's nothing, cool. If there is something to it, even better.
WOW! I’m gonna have to share this with my group, that there are consequences to taking Vit C. Thanks for taking the time to send the note.
Maybe the doctor found ....
As you have read the links, you are aware that these patients are low on vitamin C probably due to lack of vitamin C in their intravenous solution.
Vitamin C is not a cure-all. It is a vital requirement for our body to function.
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I would love for the reactionless drive to prove out. It would be wonderful, close to the invention of agriculture for the future of the human race.
It has not been ruled out, and I would love to see it work out. What a boon it would be!
Scientists who say something is impossible are often proved wrong. Scientists who say they are not sure, are often proved wise.
But the reactionless drive fits the category of a “something for nothing” list because of the incredible benefits it would bring.
Teh “miracle” of vit C has been known for decades.
But it can’t be patented/$$$ = ergo, =fergetaboudit.
the pols are in bed with AMA and big pharma - and all are guilty of letting millions die - when they could’ve been saved.
Do a YouTube search on Dr. Linus Pauling and Norman Cousins from decades ago. Pauling was a Pulitzer winner, Cousins was sentenced, by the medical experts, to death. (see Cousin’s
“norman cousins anatomy of an illness” ) -
Sorry about your neighbor - but if this happened to someone else in your community there's there's a good chance NO DOCTOR in your town will know of this work.
It's why medical care and diagnosis MUST BE COMPUTERIZED.
Your doctor knows 'common things are common' and it's all he sees now... it's self serving, easy and usually right. The average doctor asks three questions before he diagnosis 'a problem'. It's a guess, so don't expect your doctor to know of anything 'new' that doesn't cost much.
I agree with you on that. It seems to be something for nothing. I'm not willing at this point, though, to just call it 'snake oil'. The entire thing needs study under rigidly controlled conditions to determine exactly what (if anything) we are seeing.
“Do a YouTube search on Dr. Linus Pauling “
https://www.quackwatch.com/01QuackeryRelatedTopics/pauling.html
you don't seem to get my point. I'll explain it. It hasn't been shown to be significant and reproducible yet. The mechanism of action of Vitamin C on the complex nature of the septic cascade that leads to death hasn't been delineated. If Vitamin C was a magic elixir every hospital in the country would be putting it in their protocol for sepsis management BECAUSE IT COSTS LESS THAN THE ANTIBIOTICS AND ICU COSTS.
Big pharma may be greedy but so are the hospitals that pay for the drugs.
As far as doctors treating sepsis not "keeping up". By the time you get sepsis in most major hospitals the emergency room doctor, the hospitalist, the infectious disease doc and the intensive care doctor are all trying everything they can to keep the patient alive.
They are mandated by their specialty boards, malpractice carriers, state medical boards and hospital to "keep up" with current practices. In case you were wondering there is actually a clock that starts the second you show up to the ER if you meet SIRS criteria and fluids, antibiotics, pressers, other treatment modalities have to be initiated by a certain time or else they face medical review by the department and hospital.
It's the same "magic" bullet that everybody wants for sepsis, cancer and any innumerable maladies that will make you click on links, read headlines and get families to "raise hell" because the doctor failed to give grandma or little willy the magic Vitamin C, essential oil, laetrile, copper bracelet, EDTA, alkalinized water, Vitamin A, Vitamin D, Vitamin E, B-complex, Selenium etc....that "everybody knows" works but are to ill informed or stooge of the Big Pharma to use.
Think about this. Most doctors have family, so do the employees and scientist of Big Pharma, so do the hospitals. They get cancer, sepsis etc... Why would they "keep the secret"?
An old medical mentor said when told of the "new cures", "don't be the first to use it and don't be the last.". He'd seen polio cures back in the day that didn't pan out and was forever cautious with his patients who he considered family.
Why don’t you. Type in his name and it is all right there.
“Why don’t you. Type in his name and it is all right there.”
I did. That’s why I wanted you to do also,
Not sure about this if true I waste $$ on 1000 mg tabs
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Of that full gram probably 90%+ is lost before absorption in the stomach. I know in chewable , gummy and suppository meds the amount absorbed through soft/moist tissues is far higher but not as high as through the lungs for inhaled meds.
” Norman Cousins “
I don’t trust anything that anti-US globalist says.
Ask yourself this. Why didn’t the article mention that he was injecting the Vit C along with corticosteroids?
There was this study of goats and how much Vit C they actually make.
They set the goats (I guess it was all males, around 120-150 lbs) up on this screen that they could give them electric shocks. Sounds cruel, I guess it is a bit cruel.
The goats Vitamin C production ROCKETED.
Up from about 6 gms/day to 100,000 gms/day!
Humans are one of the very few species on Earth that cannot make their own Vitamin C.
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