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The Cuomo College Fiasco
New York Times ^ | April 14, 2017 | By David Brooks

Posted on 04/14/2017 2:16:04 PM PDT by Brad from Tennessee

The award for the worst public policy idea of the year goes to New York Gov. Andrew Cuomo.

Cuomo presides over a state with a rich diversity of educational institutions. But he also presides over a state, like all states, where many students don’t complete college and where many are unprepared for the information economy. For example, fewer than half of the African-American and Hispanic students in New York public colleges graduate within six years.

Cuomo could have done many things to improve New York’s higher ed system. He could have poured all available money into the Tuition Assistance Program, which is directed at poorer students. He could have spent more to help students become academically ready for college, which is the biggest barrier to graduation. He could have done more to help students pay room and board expenses. He could have massively improved overstretched mental health services. He could have massively improved career counseling.

But in 2016 Bernie Sanders made a big splash on the campaign trail with a plan to make college “free.” So Cuomo proposed and on Wednesday signed legislation to make tuition free at New York public colleges for anybody coming from a family making no more than $100,000 a year, with the cap rising to $125,000 in 2019. . .

(Excerpt) Read more at nytimes.com ...


TOPICS: Editorial; US: New York
KEYWORDS: cuomo; education; higherreducation; newyork; scam
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1 posted on 04/14/2017 2:16:04 PM PDT by Brad from Tennessee
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To: Brad from Tennessee

When even David Brooks is against a liberal idea, you know that it has to be REALLY bad. Free education. It sounds great. Now if you can just get all of those compassionate liberal profs to work for free, then it might work out fine.


2 posted on 04/14/2017 2:22:21 PM PDT by DeweyCA
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To: Brad from Tennessee
fewer than half of the African-American and Hispanic students in New York public colleges graduate within six years.

There are six-year colleges? When I went to college, it was four years. If they can't graduate from a four-year college in six years, maybe they shouldn't be there.

3 posted on 04/14/2017 2:22:53 PM PDT by hsalaw
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To: hsalaw

There are six-year colleges?

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Master’s Degrees for the Climate Change students.

Don’t laugh, that is a very real major.


4 posted on 04/14/2017 2:27:08 PM PDT by Graybeard58 (Bill and Hillary Clinton are the penicillin-resistant syphilis of our political system.)
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To: Brad from Tennessee

What’s a long term budget for this policy look like > Billions and billions I suspect .


5 posted on 04/14/2017 2:42:59 PM PDT by Lionheartusa1 ()-: ISIS is Islam without the lipstick :-()
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To: Brad from Tennessee

It would make more sense to improve public high schools with Vocational Training programs that qualify students for apprenticeships in the trades and in manufacturing.


6 posted on 04/14/2017 2:43:03 PM PDT by grania (only a pawn in their game)
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To: Brad from Tennessee

Undoubtedly, there’s a scam here. And the taxpayers are the scam-ee.


7 posted on 04/14/2017 2:43:24 PM PDT by miss marmelstein
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To: hsalaw

People who drop in and out of college because of lack of funds. I’m in culinary school which has a two-year AA degree. It takes the average grad (at my school) three years to complete ‘cause the kids need to work instead of going to school full time.


8 posted on 04/14/2017 2:45:31 PM PDT by miss marmelstein
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To: miss marmelstein

I haven’t heard what the price tag will be for a family who exceeds the income limit.


9 posted on 04/14/2017 3:14:07 PM PDT by ntnychik
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To: Brad from Tennessee

“If upper-middle-class students are drawn away to public colleges, private ones may close.”


The family income cap is $100,000.00 a year——that’s hardly UPPER-MIDDLE class.

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10 posted on 04/14/2017 3:15:35 PM PDT by Mears
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To: Brad from Tennessee
Cuomo's attempt to buy the 2020 Democrat nomination.

With taxpayer funds of course.

11 posted on 04/14/2017 3:18:39 PM PDT by floozy22 (Edward Snowden - American Hero)
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To: hsalaw

Hmmm. I take it you’re unfamiliar with the “reguired course - upper class men only-taught one semester- every other year- limited seating” scam; among others,that some academic “institutions” use to keep that tuition money rolling in?? ;). It’s been going on since the late 60’s that I know of.


12 posted on 04/14/2017 3:20:44 PM PDT by Mrs. Ranger (lamenting the death of "common sense")
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To: hsalaw

Interesting, so someone can take all the b.s. “studies” courses and still not be able to get themselves to a degree in 6 yrs. Impressive!!

Ethnic Studies, Womyn’s Studies, Afro-American Studies, Hispanic Studies, Gay-Lesbian-Queer-Nation Studies, Transgender Studies, etc. etc.


13 posted on 04/14/2017 3:32:25 PM PDT by Enchante (Libtards are enemies of true civilization!)
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To: Brad from Tennessee

It’s moments like this that make me smile when I remember the day after Obama was elected cancelling my DBA in NYS!


14 posted on 04/14/2017 3:40:13 PM PDT by heshtesh ((New Yorker for Cruz))
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To: heshtesh

walking talking scum like his dad


15 posted on 04/14/2017 3:59:18 PM PDT by ronnie raygun (Trump plays chess the rest are still playing checkers)
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To: Enchante

And be sure not to forget the minor in, for example, Sub-Saharan Homoerotic Dance. That’s what makes an African ‘Studies’ degree complete and so valuable in today’s workplace. :=)


16 posted on 04/14/2017 4:06:16 PM PDT by Bob (Damn, the democrats haven't been this upset since Republicans freed their slaves.)
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To: Brad from Tennessee
fewer than half of the African-American and Hispanic students in New York public colleges graduate within six years.

well... an extra year or two of remedial reading "see spot run", arithmetic and english grammar is still no guarantee of graduation

17 posted on 04/14/2017 4:07:13 PM PDT by Chode (My job is not to represent the world. My job is to represent the United States of America-#45 DJT)
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To: Graybeard58

I think it means obtaining a bachelor’s degree in 6 years.


18 posted on 04/14/2017 4:07:16 PM PDT by scrabblehack
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To: Mrs. Ranger

Yes, that exists, but I bet that’s not the real reason black/Latino students take six years to get their degree. When I was in college (when dinosaurs still roamed the earth) the government had a “graduate-in-four-years incentive plan”, the draft. They expected 15 hours/semester or quarter, if you fell behind, or flunked a class you could quickly find yourself in a different environment.


19 posted on 04/14/2017 4:21:23 PM PDT by hanamizu
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To: Brad from Tennessee

Consider.

There will parental/peer pressure to go to community college BECAUSE it’s free.

And, CUNY (professors union) wants 4,000 new teaching positions.

=> 60 to 70% flunking out WILL NOT be considered a success, by Cuomo, by CUNY, by nobody!.

What does all that clearly tell you? The curriculum is going to be dumbed down A LOT!

What’s free worth...? => nothing!


20 posted on 04/14/2017 4:40:38 PM PDT by Fitzy_888 ("ownership society")
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