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NY set to make state college tuition free for middle class
Wichita Eagle ^ | 4-9-2017 | Anna Gronewold and David Klepper

Posted on 04/09/2017 7:32:41 PM PDT by BAW

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To: BAW

When it has no cost it has no value.


21 posted on 04/09/2017 7:51:05 PM PDT by MtnClimber (For photos of Colorado scenery and wildlife, click on my screen name for my FR home page.)
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To: Fungi

Expect taxes to go up as everyone flees to southern climes.

Yes and they have made Virginia and now sometimes North Carolina blue and purple states. They are working on Georgia. New York probably will end up red in a few decades after all the liberals leave for southern states. Crazy.


22 posted on 04/09/2017 7:53:04 PM PDT by napscoordinator (Trump/Hunter, jr for President/Vice President 2016)
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To: BAW

Is there an age limit? If not I’ll go get a degree in Fisheries Management, then an associate’s degree in medical dosimetry. After that we’ll see what’s next.


23 posted on 04/09/2017 7:54:26 PM PDT by DBrow
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To: MtnClimber
When it has no cost it has no value.

Exactly.

24 posted on 04/09/2017 7:56:08 PM PDT by BAW (It is Yuge!)
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To: Maine Mariner

actually, the State University of NY system is one of the best in the nation, if not the best....


25 posted on 04/09/2017 7:57:10 PM PDT by cherry
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To: BAW

It’s only “free” for those that do not have to work to pay for it.


26 posted on 04/09/2017 7:57:16 PM PDT by soycd
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To: BAW

Like the girls on the corner used to say, “it ain’t never free, baby!”


27 posted on 04/09/2017 7:57:20 PM PDT by PLMerite (Lord, let me die fighting lions. Amen)
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To: BAW

soon, a public college education in the state of NY will be worth what it costs; nothing.


28 posted on 04/09/2017 7:57:52 PM PDT by JohnBrowdie
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To: BAW
Interesting- at SUNY "tuition" is about 6500, but the total cost is upwards of 20K, the balance being fees and books and room&board:

State-Operated Campuses Baccalaureate Degree Programs

State-operated campuses include University Centers, University Colleges and Technology Colleges.

 

New York State Residents

Out-of-State Residents 2

Living on Campus

Commuter

Living on Campus

Direct Costs 5

Tuition

$6,470

$6,470

$16,320 3

Student Fees 1

$1,640

$1,640

$1,640

Room and Board

$12,590

$3,860

$12,590

TOTAL DIRECT COSTS

$20,700

$11,970

$30,550

Indirect Costs 6

Books and Supplies

$1,340

$1,340

$1,340

Personal Expenses

$1,560

$1,590

$1,560

Transportation

$1,080

$1,890

$1,180

TOTAL INDIRECT COST

$3,980

$4,820

$4,080


29 posted on 04/09/2017 7:58:49 PM PDT by DBrow
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To: MtnClimber

> When it has no cost it has no value. <

Excellent point.


30 posted on 04/09/2017 7:59:29 PM PDT by Leaning Right (I have already previewed or do not wish to preview this composition.)
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To: BAW

this means one thing, and only one thing; cuomo is running in 2020.


31 posted on 04/09/2017 8:00:01 PM PDT by JohnBrowdie
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To: BAW

I put that cost of $163 mil a year through my wissionater!

Wizz, wizz, wizz.

At a cost of $7,000 per year, $163 mil would support 23,200 students in the first year. Then, if they stayed in school for the four years to graduate, only a bit over 5,400 could be entered in this program a year to chew through $163m annually.

I think that there over 5400 kids of parents earning less than $125k that would like free education!

Nice job Coumo, you A-Hole!


32 posted on 04/09/2017 8:00:43 PM PDT by Noob1999
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To: mountn man
If you think health care is expensive now, wait until you see what it costs when it's free.

P. J. O'Rourke

33 posted on 04/09/2017 8:02:12 PM PDT by BBell (calm down and eat your sandwiches)
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To: BAW

“To qualify the student would have to meet certain class load and grade point average restrictions, and room and board would not be covered.”

These requirements will in short order be considered racist and they will all be done away with - especially the grade point average.

As a result the budget will balloon into billions. Also since money is no object, tuitions will skyrocket too.


34 posted on 04/09/2017 8:03:07 PM PDT by aquila48
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To: BAW

This will be an interesting experiment. $163 is the benchmark projected cost. Let’s see how this works out in 5 years . . .

...

It will end up in the billions and the real plan is to subsidize all the crazy liberals who dominate the population of those who pick up a paycheck at colleges.

With all the information available on the Internet, there’s no reason to be spending a fortune on so many brick and mortar schools.


35 posted on 04/09/2017 8:05:18 PM PDT by Moonman62 (Make America Great Again!)
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To: BAW

There’s no way the state of NY would pay for college unless gender studies, homo/lesbo acceptance, white privilege awareness and global warming 101 were required courses to graduate.


36 posted on 04/09/2017 8:05:33 PM PDT by Rebelbase (Deportation mayhem is just birthing pains for a new America.)
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To: BAW

“College is today what high school was 50 years ago,” he said on a radio interview Sunday on AM 970 in New York City. “If you’re a young person who wants success and a career, a college education is necessary.”

Wrong Wrong Wrong. What is needed is a skill the public is willing to pay you for.

Rocket Scientists, yes
Engineers, yes
Pilots, yes
Plumbers, yes (A good one earns more than a rocket scientist)
Electricians, yes
doctors, yes
nurses, yes
pharmacists, yes
roughneck on a drilling rig, yes. Hard dangerous, pays well
someone who can repair my lawnmower, hell yes they are rare
someone that can clear land and trees, last guy had a masters of science but decided to get rich instead. He was making 500 dollars a day 15 years ago. In today’s money that is about 800 dollars. His prior job was as a school principal but he got fed up with the system. He was not a liberal.

Degrees are good, I have a few. My employers paid me for my skills. You do not need a degree to achieve great success, you need a skill people are willing to pay for.

Circa 1966,the dumbest dude on the High School football team barely graduated from High School. However he was ambitious and a hard working man. He went into small construction business in his local area. He has more wealth today than the two pharmacists, two doctors, one dentist and one lawyer that were on the football team. Degrees are nice, you do not need one if you have a skill to offer.


37 posted on 04/09/2017 8:06:13 PM PDT by cpdiii (Deckhand, Roughneck, Mud Man, Geologist, Pilot, Pharmacist. CONSTITUTUTION IS WORTH DYING FOR!)
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To: BAW

“College is today what high school was 50 years ago,” he said on a radio interview Sunday on AM 970 in New York City. “If you’re a young person who wants success and a career, a college education is necessary.”

Wrong Wrong Wrong. What is needed is a skill the public is willing to pay you for.

Rocket Scientists, yes
Engineers, yes
Pilots, yes
Plumbers, yes (A good one earns more than a rocket scientist)
Electricians, yes
doctors, yes
nurses, yes
pharmacists, yes
roughneck on a drilling rig, yes. Hard dangerous, pays well
someone who can repair my lawnmower, hell yes they are rare
someone that can clear land and trees, last guy had a masters of science but decided to get rich instead. He was making 500 dollars a day 15 years ago. In today’s money that is about 800 dollars. His prior job was as a school principal but he got fed up with the system. He was not a liberal.

Degrees are good, I have a few. My employers paid me for my skills. You do not need a degree to achieve great success, you need a skill people are willing to pay for.

Circa 1966,the dumbest dude on the High School football team barely graduated from High School. However he was ambitious and a hard working man. He went into small construction business in his local area. He has more wealth today than the two pharmacists, two doctors, one dentist and one lawyer that were on the football team. Degrees are nice, you do not need one if you have a skill to offer.


38 posted on 04/09/2017 8:06:39 PM PDT by cpdiii (Deckhand, Roughneck, Mud Man, Geologist, Pilot, Pharmacist. CONSTITUTUTION IS WORTH DYING FOR!)
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To: BAW

My uncle taught me something years ago and I have seen nothing in my experience to prove him wrong.

He always told me that progress is a natural reaction to pressure. If you take away the pressure, you take away the progress. The Dems are always trying to relive the pressure which I have always interpreted to mean prevent progress.

If college ever becomes completely free, university degrees will become worthless. One of the reason HS degrees don’t mean what they used to 50 years ago is because they are free to get and everyone has one as a result....well most everyone. NY is apparently trying to create worthless college degrees right now.

What if every player who tried out for an NFL team was guaranteed to a spot on the roster? The team would suck because the pressure would be off. Would any of us had gone to college, learned our trade, or what have you if we were guaranteed 150k/yr for the rest of our lives? No way! It’s not complicated stuff, but the more the left tries to fix things, the more they screw everything up. NY Universities are next on the agenda apparently.


39 posted on 04/09/2017 8:08:58 PM PDT by Mustangman
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To: Sacajaweau
Whatever happened to a kid getting a job to help pay for college?

College was much more affordable in those days, before government subsidies drove tuition costs beyond all reason.

40 posted on 04/09/2017 8:20:53 PM PDT by Maceman (Let's ban Muslims temporarily -- just until non-Muslims can freely practice their religions in Mecca)
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