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Sci-fi racism must end
Indiana Daily Student ^ | 3/29 | Miranda Garbaciak

Posted on 04/01/2017 8:22:43 PM PDT by ErikJohnsky

Veronica Roth, the author of the Divergent series, recently came out with the first novel in an upcoming series called "Carve the Mark".

The novel is about war between special species who are born with special powers. One of the species is coded to be representative of a white elite society while another species is coded as dark skinned, brutal and not civilized.

I do not have an issue with alien species representing races we are already familiar with. Representation is important and rare in science fiction series, so the idea of representation is awesome.

However, my issue lies here: the species coded as white is represented as being more important and more civilized than the nomadic species that has dark skin.

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To: Read Write Repeat

This reveals itself with the “appropriation” argument. You are commanded to wear the clothing and hairstyles, use the language and hold the views they have assigned to your group. In short, their view of morality requires everyone to live out their group’s stereotype.


41 posted on 04/01/2017 9:46:24 PM PDT by tbw2
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To: ClearCase_guy

could be black dudes in white face makeup


42 posted on 04/01/2017 9:51:41 PM PDT by Bob434
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To: bitt

Fred is always a hoot.


43 posted on 04/01/2017 9:53:41 PM PDT by Bogie
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To: ErikJohnsky
Sci-fi racism must end

Good luck even finding any real sci-fi anymore. Most of it is now fantasy, sometimes with a thin veneer of pseudo-scientific jargon smeared on. Worrying about the need to end racism/sexism/whateverism in science fiction is like worrying about the urgent need to end bad breath in wooly mammoths.
44 posted on 04/01/2017 10:14:48 PM PDT by AnotherUnixGeek
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To: ErikJohnsky

I never saw an African American Borg...

Stuoid SJWs would still call a black Nebulon African American.


45 posted on 04/01/2017 10:18:38 PM PDT by Organic Panic (Flinging poo is not a valid argument)
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To: Grimmy
People like this Miranda are a bright and shiny argument for the return of trade schools focused entirely on learning an employable skill, and the dismantling of our college system which is too prone to takeover by leftard indoctrinators.

Agreed. All leftists should be removed from all education locations across the planet but since we can only control what happens in America; then America will just have to do.

In a couple of generations we will again see bright and truly educated graduates instead of these indoctrinated and brainwashed cupcake toppings.

46 posted on 04/01/2017 10:24:58 PM PDT by Boomer (The modern day leftist dems are the party of criminally insane propagandists.)
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To: ErikJohnsky
while another species is coded as dark skinned, brutal and not civilized.

A movie that mirrors reality?

What a concept!

47 posted on 04/01/2017 10:45:12 PM PDT by doorgunner69
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To: tbw2

Off the top of my head and my Star Trek card/autographed photos collection, I can think of a number of non-white genuine actors who have been in that TV series and the follow-up movies.

Robert Hooks - A Commodore
Moses Gunn? - a senior Federation official - The Voyage Home?
George Takei - Japanese American
Nichelle Nichols - black, I’m not in a PC mood tonite
Frances Nuyen - Vietnamese, “Elaan of Troyius” and my favorite scarf-shirt wearer (She made her blouses out of her multicolored scarves and ever time I met her, she had a different one on).
Michael Dohrn - black - ST:TNG
Levar Burton- black - ST:TNG
Alex Siddig (Siddique) - North African/Sudanese or Egyptian, DS9
Penny Johnson - black - DS9
Whoopi Goldberg - black - Guinan ST/TNG
Rosalind Chao - Keiko Ishikawa O’Brien, ST/TNG - Japanese
? - Nurse Alyssa Ogawa - Japanese
Avery Brooks - black and a great Shakespearean actor - DS9
Cirroc Lofton - STDS9 - black
Tim Russ - black - Voyager
Robert Beltran - Hispanic - Voyager
Roxanne Dawson - mixed Hispanic and other - Voyager
Garrett Wang - Chinese - Voyager
One actor in Babylon 5, male

Others - Kang (Chinese); another Chinese conqueror; etc.

Gene Roddenberry and his writers were not racists at all. In fact they pioneered the integration of “colored” actors into television as just parts of a normal space exploration crew.

And the Sci-Fi people loved it! That is what makes America so great - we can put all different kinds of people together and come out with great scientists, teachers, military leaders, athletes, business people, a few politicians, actors/actresses, and even conservative black writers.

Roddenberry saw much further into the future of America and the world than did almost any other writer, and made Sci-Fi more than just entertainment. It also made you think.

Thank you Gene wherever you are “Out there, 3rd Star to the Left”.


48 posted on 04/01/2017 11:03:53 PM PDT by MadMax, the Grinning Reaper
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To: GladesGuru

Writer needs to get a new life. Science fiction is FANTASY, not reality. Decrying racism in science fiction leads to

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Oi97fXRkgss


49 posted on 04/01/2017 11:06:01 PM PDT by NTHockey (Rules of engagement #1: Take no prisoners. And to the NSA trolls, FU)
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To: tbw2

I remember a “Star Trek: The Next Generation” episode where commander Riker mentioned that World War III happened in the 21st century and killed 600 million people.


50 posted on 04/01/2017 11:22:40 PM PDT by july4thfreedomfoundation ("You can't fix America without pissing off the people who broke it".....Bill Mitchell)
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To: tbw2

Incredibly misguided to rely on appearance to determine one’s place in the world.


51 posted on 04/01/2017 11:26:32 PM PDT by Read Write Repeat
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To: ErikJohnsky

The good news is that there are amazingly stupid people of all races, religions, and sexual orientation. :-)

(If you click on my name there are some—old—brief reviews of “real” SF novels and short stories.)


52 posted on 04/02/2017 1:24:11 AM PDT by cgbg (Hidden behind the social justice warrior mask is corruption and sexual deviance.)
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To: Reno89519

Yeah....a lot of Sci Fi got into that stuff in the 90s and thereafter. I think a lot of it was the expansion of women writers, frankly.

I started reading it overseas in the early 70s - Heinlein, et al and even though some of it dated back to the 40s and 50s. The stories, plot lines and characters were all excellent. To me that is the test of a good Sci Fi. Can you pull out the story 50 or 100 years later and still read and enjoy it and relate to your own version of scientific reality? It is hard to do that when you have to compete with remembering the craziest of names, places and pre-stories like some of them now. Just an opinion - ain’t worth much.


53 posted on 04/02/2017 1:54:46 AM PDT by Gaffer
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To: Paladin2

Allah doesn’t believe in star travel?


54 posted on 04/02/2017 1:55:35 AM PDT by Gaffer
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To: HARRY TUTTLE

Yes. A prolific student paper journalist it seems.

Here are some of her recent works:

COLUMN: Sci-fi racism must end
YouTube censors LGBT videos
COLUMN: Be careful with voice recognition
COLUMN: We really are addicted to our phones
Column: February Blues
COLUMN: On punching neo-Nazis
COLUMN: Tomi Lahren needs to quit being awful
COLUMN: Make reasonable New Year’s resolutions
COLUMN: Depression shouldn’t be a fad
COLUMN: All hope is not lost
COLUMN: I tried the dating app for Americans looking for love in Canada
COLUMN: Considering our history, this is no surprise
COLUMN: English majors, the nation’s brightest thinkers
COLUMN: Embrace the nasty woman
COLUMN: The troubling context of #RepealThe19th
COLUMN: We need more crime alerts
COLUMN: Costume appropriation
COLUMN: Amber Alerts shouldn’t be overlooked
COLUMN: Don’t shy away from donating plasma
COLUMN: Heroin overdose photo is atrocious


55 posted on 04/02/2017 1:59:52 AM PDT by Gaffer
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To: ErikJohnsky

I have a better idea. Student whining and nausea inducing fault-finding must end.


56 posted on 04/02/2017 2:00:15 AM PDT by blueplum ("...this moment is your moment: it belongs to you " President Donald J. Trump, Jan 20, 2017)
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Bottom line...

Roth wants to carve out her little piece of the literary pie. At some point she might figure out that whining, while supposedly trendy, doesn’t get it, isn’t the literary brass ring... it’s merely... whining...


57 posted on 04/02/2017 3:17:16 AM PDT by Clutch Martin (Hot sauce aside, every culture has its pancake, just as every culture has its noodle.)
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To: brucedickinson

The Borg are the Muslims.


58 posted on 04/02/2017 3:27:55 AM PDT by mad_as_he$$ ("Try is the first step to failure." Homer Simpson.)
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To: Grimmy

Dont go to college.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lfYot1IsqCM&index=64&list=PL9uxmQ2GV1ASWLZGheSmMKzuTgZWlFFua


59 posted on 04/02/2017 3:45:41 AM PDT by Uncle Lonny
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To: ClearCase_guy

“All I want, is a TV commercial for a home security system, in which the scary burglar is played by a black man.”

Like in real life:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C1V2hUZAylQ


60 posted on 04/02/2017 3:56:38 AM PDT by Uncle Lonny
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