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Do not let the Dems, GOPe win, do not let Ted Cruz, McCain and Graham destroy our economy (Vanity)
opinion | 3-22-2016 | ShivaFan

Posted on 03/22/2017 5:34:29 AM PDT by ShivaFan

Rand Paul is trying to be relevant. Ted Cruz thinks he is going to run for President in four years by undermining Trump and purposely undermining the economic rally. Both of these were candidates who lost to Trump in the Republican primaries. On the other side, we have the total enemies of the Republican base, John McCain who belongs in a strait jacket and is so despised by the Republican base he didn’t even have a chance of even entering the primaries much less win them, and an equally pathetic Never Trumper Lindsey Graham who also like Paul and Cruz ran and lost his bid and dropped out because he couldn’t even get 1 percent of the vote, another Never Trumper, Trump wining Graham’s own state of South Carolina by a landslide. Both McCain and Graham have been on a non-stop tirade against Trump and both want to immediately go to war with Russia and start World War Three. Investors like me already priced in the August tax cuts into the DOW. We started doing that back in December, and we have seen the greatest economic recovery started in my lifetime, largely thanks to Donald Trump. About half of the 3,000 point gain in the DOW since Trump won is this pricing in of the August tax cuts as, like any investor, an investor first buys in when the price is relatively “cheap” with the hopes of gains in the future or near future. So about 1,500 points of the 3,000 point gain in the DOW is this pricing in of the tax cuts which will guarantee and economic and jobs boom like not seen in many decades, it will exceed Reagan. Obamacare is imploding. Once it totally goes under, however, this implosion will hurt the economy. So we need to get rid of it, and replace it – at first with a model that is more based on free economic models – but we need the tax cuts in August first or the pricing in of the cuts into the DOW will then “price out”, the DOW will drop 1,500 points, the left wing MSM will go nuts blaming Trump and the “collapse of the economy” which actually won’t be a collapse because we will still be 1,500 points ahead of the game over the horrible Obama days but just not 3,000 points up but rather 1,500 points up, but the media will tell American over and over again the mantra that Trump destroyed the economy, all part of the efforts by the Democrats and the neo-cons in the Republican Party, the GOPe, and now the likes of Ted Cruz who thinks he can still run for President in 2020 by delaying the tax cuts on purpose so as to hurt the economy and thus hurt Trump who “insulted (my) father and family”.

All that will happen, however, is the Democrats who are totally evil and use deep state against the American people, and who want to suppress freedom of speech and who wants only a media-state propaganda mill in the MSM, and of which are part of the cheap labor global interests along with the GOPe which wants to destroy Trump in the name of cheap foreign labor and open borders, the worst of the worst will gain back power and then totally destroy the American middle class and disfranchise Americans from their jobs and expand debt and expand government to the level of totalitarianism as found in Venezuela. Many good Americans will also be put in prison and totally marginalized. Nor will Cruz even be able to run for President in 2020, he is delusional and will be totally destroyed by the MSM and the Democrats even more so than the MSM, the Democrats, the GOPe, McCain, Graham, now Rand, and Ted Cruz could ever destroy Trump. As far as Rand is concerned, he will get everything he wants in the replacement of Obamacare, but just not right now. That will happen after the tax cuts and the economic boom unlike we have seen in many decades. Just pass what is up on the table now, we MUST move into the tax cuts immediately to start this up, then once we got the economy we want we will setup a replacement of Obamacare that meets all the criteria but we need the tax cuts first to do that which will seal the deal for a Republican majority for the next 20 years.

But what Rand and Cruz and the Democrats and the GOPe is doing, is they are going to – and most see it is intentional – destroy the economy so to destroy Trump who they hate and think they will personally gain by doing so. Certainly Rand and Cruz will gain nothing. Only the Democrats and the GOPe will gain and retake control for the establishment.

And we will all be screwed like you have never experience in your life, you will lose your country, period. Obviously, I hate the Democrats. And the GOPe. And now I hate Ted Cruz and Rand Paul in a big way. Please, contact your representatives, get past the Obamacare thing for now and move into the tax cuts immediately, then set the stage for the total end of Obamacare and it’s replacement by a workable system that will save our healthcare and medical progress. Please. Do not let the Democrats regain power. Do not let the delusions of a Ted Cruz destroy us. Do not let the Never Trumpers on FOX, the neo-cons, the open borders cheap labor lobby destroy us. You have this chance like never before, but you are facing the greatest challenge at this time like never before. Stop them. Now.


TOPICS: Front Page News; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: cds; crazy; cruz; cruzrandpaul; lunacyonparade; mccain; randpaul; reeeeeee; shivafan; thanksmorons; trump
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To: yldstrk
Ted Cruz is an assh8le and will never be elected

Why not, Trump was. I see we are going to attack Cruz because he rightfully points out that this POS ryancare bill is a POS? We are supposed to be happy with lipstick on a pig, with a supposed three stage plan to fix the democrats feces with the third phase the one that would actually do something good requiring democrat votes that they will never get for it to pass? Repeal the POS, that was the promise Trump ran on, what he was elected on, not fixing it!

61 posted on 03/22/2017 9:00:03 AM PDT by Mastador1 (I'll take a bad dog over a good politician any day!)
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To: Mastador1

Yes, the Ryan Rino health care bill is a pos but Ted is a nerd


62 posted on 03/22/2017 9:03:30 AM PDT by yldstrk (My heroes have always been cowboys)
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To: yldstrk
I won't argue the nerd part but your first post was uncalled for. I understand that people were upset Cruz ran against Trump, get over it, the accusations that Trump made against him and his family were crap.

The elections over, Trump won and Cruz has been helping him a lot, but first and foremost Cruz was elected to represent the people who put him in office, that is his first duty, not to be a rubber stamp for what any President wants no matter how bad. I am sure Cruz has discussed with Trump what he feels needs to be done to the bill, we can wait a little longer for this to be done right. Otherwise why didn't we just vote democrat?

63 posted on 03/22/2017 9:12:30 AM PDT by Mastador1 (I'll take a bad dog over a good politician any day!)
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To: SmokingJoe
Ted Cruz and Paul Ryan are heroes

I presume you mean Rand Paul? And the OP is a steaming crock of raw sewage.

64 posted on 03/22/2017 9:15:26 AM PDT by NorthMountain (The Democrats ... have lost their grip on reality -DJT)
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To: Mastador1

I agree. I was unhappy with Ted during the election but we all need to move on. Ted Cruz is coming out as a force to move the healthcare debate in the right direction and there is plenty of time for him to redeem himself by future actions. Why would we disdain his efforts?


65 posted on 03/22/2017 9:33:58 AM PDT by JayGalt
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To: ShivaFan; Jim Robinson; SmokingJoe; Presbyterian Reporter; NEMDF; Responsibility2nd; SeekAndFind; ..

Every morning when I awake, I thank God that Rand Paul and Ted Cruz are standing against the abomination known as RyanCare.

It’s unfathomable to me that President Trump supports Paul Ryan’s Obamacare Lite, pretending that it somehow even comes close to Trump’s promises to repeal and replace obamacare. As late as six weeks ago I heard President Trump say that it would take as long as early 2018 to have a workable bill. Why he’ going along with Paul Ryan’s garbage bill is nearly beyond my imagination.


66 posted on 03/22/2017 9:40:31 AM PDT by catnipman ( Cat Nipman: Vote Republican in 2012 and only be called racist one more time!)
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To: catnipman
I think it is because it will allow front-loading of other tax relief, due to the ten year view this immediately uses.

Hopefully, we can then use normal budget processes to fix the rest to completely free market solutions.

Jump starting the economy will get more people jobs and off of the 0care roles, making that future sell much easier.

67 posted on 03/22/2017 9:57:26 AM PDT by ConservativeMind ("Humane" = "Don't pen up pets or eat meat, but allow infanticides, abortion, and euthanasia.")
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To: JayGalt

RE: I would hesitate to offer Medicaid for “all” without a means test. If the world were filled with stand up types its a great plan.

OK, I’d be all ears regarding the means test. How much in your opinion, should one earn to qualify for Medicaid?


68 posted on 03/22/2017 10:03:05 AM PDT by SeekAndFind
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To: catnipman
It’s unfathomable to me that President Trump supports Paul Ryan’s Obamacare Lite, pretending that it somehow even comes close to Trump’s promises to repeal and replace obamacare.

Well, I was a Cruz supporter during the primaries and didn't really focus on candidate Trump because his schtick turned me off. After Trump won the candidacy, he got my vote, since I would never sit out and give Hitlery a chance at the White House.

I've been watching our President Trump more closely, ignoring his idiosyncrasies, and concentrating on his actions and sober speeches to Congress, the Republicans and the American public about what he wants to accomplish, and I see him in a different light.

I think he has a good heart and honestly believes Ryan will work in good faith to fix Obamacare....and that this bill is the only way to accomplish it.

Unfortunately, I think he is placing his faith in the wrong quarters.

We can only hope that Cruz, Lee, Paul, Meadows and others hold the line against this bill because I think it will only make things worse, not better.

69 posted on 03/22/2017 10:12:45 AM PDT by TXSearcher (Interesting times we live in...........)
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To: ShivaFan

Tad Cruuuuuz!!!


70 posted on 03/22/2017 10:15:33 AM PDT by right way right (May we remain sober over mere men, for God really is our one and only true hope.)
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To: SeekAndFind

It would tie in with what one is allowed to earn to get food stamps, housing allowance etc. The level of income is not important to me nor whether there is a sliding scale of subsidy. I would almost rather it was just a yes/no because that would save on bureaucratic nonsense even if it might enlarge the pool.

My point is that there needs to be a means test so that people with yachts, corvettes and summer homes don’t decide to go barebacked because someone else will pay the freight. Its just the wrong message. People need to be responsible for their own care unless they are for some reason unable to.


71 posted on 03/22/2017 10:15:57 AM PDT by JayGalt
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To: ShivaFan
This is Paul Ryan's bill and Trump has endorsed it out of necessity. The bill is not going in the right direction and needs to be fixed before being passed. Just because Trump endorsed it does not make it gold.

Shiva, sometimes you need to think for yourself and not be a mind numbed robot.

72 posted on 03/22/2017 11:12:20 AM PDT by Dave W
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To: sickoflibs

Not always a good sign when all there is, is nothing but a threat.


73 posted on 03/22/2017 11:14:09 AM PDT by Dave W
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To: Dave W
RE:”Not always a good sign when all there is, is nothing but a threat.”

The Dems used pork to get bills passed.

Doesn't your town need a new clinic?

74 posted on 03/22/2017 11:18:19 AM PDT by sickoflibs (Don't call it Trumpcare until he does!)
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To: ConservativeMind
Should obviously read “Ted Cruz and RAND PAUL are heroes for fighting Ryancare.”

Apologies.

75 posted on 03/22/2017 12:59:08 PM PDT by SmokingJoe
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To: Responsibility2nd

Yes. Should have read “Ted Cruz and RAND PAUL are heroes for fighting Ryancare.”
Apologies.


76 posted on 03/22/2017 1:01:38 PM PDT by SmokingJoe
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To: sickoflibs

Very funny.


77 posted on 03/22/2017 2:41:43 PM PDT by Dave W
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To: ShivaFan

Do you like that Kool Aide sweetened or unsweetened?


78 posted on 03/22/2017 8:56:52 PM PDT by WilliamRobert
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To: VTenigma

Nice call. After reading the management amendment from 3/21, this bill screws VETERANS. Thank God for Rep Meadows, the only one to speak out about this. Trump n the GOP, left me long ago and now they are singling out VETERANS receiving subsidies, but other folks on subsidies get top care. This bill needs to die today. I won’t stop talking to veterans about being targeted for substandard care.


79 posted on 03/23/2017 8:05:10 AM PDT by momincombatboots (pathway to citizenship... Amnesty history repeats. Walling Illegals In wasn't the idea moron!)
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To: ShivaFan

We need this ‘win’ to set the stage for the many ‘wins’ to come. Graham and Cruz must NOT do the prima donna bit. It’s not attractive. They need to get on board with our President...


80 posted on 03/23/2017 8:08:46 AM PDT by GOPJ (Elections no longer matter. We have lost the country to the appointed. - freeperRepRivFarm)
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