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Heavy California rains par for the course for climate change
Stanford University News ^ | March 21, 2017 | BY KER THAN

Posted on 03/21/2017 11:37:25 AM PDT by Oldeconomybuyer

Here’s a question that Stanford climatologist Noah Diffenbaugh gets asked a lot lately: “Why did California receive so much rain lately if we’re supposed to be in the middle of a record-setting drought?”

When answering, he will often refer the questioner to a Discover magazine story published in 1988, when Diffenbaugh was still in middle school.

The article, written by veteran science writer Andrew Revkin, detailed how a persistent rise in global temperatures would affect California’s water system. It predicted that as California warmed, more precipitation would fall as rain rather than snow, and more of the snow that did fall would melt earlier in the season. This in turn would cause reservoirs to fill up earlier, increasing the odds of both winter flooding and summer droughts.

Diffenbaugh, who specializes in using historical observations and mathematical models to study how climate change affects water resources, agriculture, and human health, sees no contradiction in California experiencing one of its wettest years on record right on the heels of a record-setting extended drought.

“When you look back at the historical record of climate in California, you see this pattern of intense drought punctuated by wet conditions, which can lead to a lot of runoff,” said Diffenbaugh, who is also the Kimmelman Family senior fellow at the Stanford Woods Institute for the Environment. “This is exactly what state-of-the-art climate models predicted should have happened, and what those models project to intensify in the future as global warming continues.”

It’s not too late, however, for California to catch up or even leap ahead in its preparations for a changing climate, scientists say. Diffenbaugh argues that there are plenty of “win-win” investment opportunities that will not only make Americans safer and more secure in the present, but also prepare for the future.

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TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Culture/Society; News/Current Events; US: California
KEYWORDS: climategate; fakenews; fakescience; hoax; socialism; stanford
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Andrew Revkin + Climate Models = Crap "science"
1 posted on 03/21/2017 11:37:25 AM PDT by Oldeconomybuyer
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

Standard Climate Change logic, make all sorts of predictions varying more widely than a Dan Rather truth session.

When one fits (and one must, given the above), that’s proof of our prediction.

Q: What do physics students call the ones who just don’t get it, but accept Ds in every course?

A: Future climate researchers.


2 posted on 03/21/2017 11:39:21 AM PDT by Da Coyote
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drought punctuated by wet conditions

Ain't weather grand?

3 posted on 03/21/2017 11:39:26 AM PDT by Puppage (You may disagree with what I have to say, but I shall defend to your death my right to say it)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

There’s no weather event that cannot be tied to climate change. Drought, rain, cold, hot, doesn’t matter.


4 posted on 03/21/2017 11:39:49 AM PDT by Behind the Blue Wall
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

It’s sunny out = Climate Change

It’s rainy out = Climate Change

Kim Kardashian’s butt is bigger = Climate Change

Diffenbaugh is a self impressed Leftist groupie who joins all the right organizations and all the right “working groups” to keep his Politically Correct creds

As a fluid dynamicist he’s non-existent


5 posted on 03/21/2017 11:41:18 AM PDT by Regulator
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To: Oldeconomybuyer
The California draught ends and the Climate Change people claim they predicted that end. . . except they didn't. . . just as the did not predict the draught itself and the length of it.

California weather has just returned to the weather I recall experiencing when I was growing up in Sacramento. Sheesh.

6 posted on 03/21/2017 11:43:32 AM PDT by Swordmaker (This tag line is a Microsoft insult free zone... but if the insults to Mac users continue...)
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Why did California receive so much rain lately if we’re supposed to be in the middle of a record-setting drought?”
Because THE DROUGHT IS OVER, you idiot. Sorry for shouting.
7 posted on 03/21/2017 11:43:50 AM PDT by dainbramaged (Get out of my country now)
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To: Puppage

Sounds about right for a arid desert like area like California.


8 posted on 03/21/2017 11:45:49 AM PDT by dhs12345
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

Global Climate Change causes droughts AND floods because.....science.

These are the same scientists who believe your sex is determined solely based on your opinion at a given time.


9 posted on 03/21/2017 11:47:27 AM PDT by AppyPappy (Don't mistake your dorm political discussions with the desires of the nation)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

Droughts are climate change, floods are climate change. I’m dizzy.


10 posted on 03/21/2017 11:50:11 AM PDT by The Cuban (again Freaking French illegal immigrabta,)
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"Kim Kardashian’s butt is bigger = Climate Change"

You must have misunderstood. If Kim Kardashian's butt is bigger, that's because of thighfat change.

11 posted on 03/21/2017 11:50:57 AM PDT by BlueLancer (Ex Scientia Tridens)
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To: BlueLancer

Wow, yer right!

My mistake


12 posted on 03/21/2017 11:52:25 AM PDT by Regulator
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To: Oldeconomybuyer
And like most climate hysterics, he obfuscates:

1) The 1998 article postulates "wet winters and dry summers," a time period implying one year, and assigning "dry" conditions to the summer season only.
2) He describes, "...intense drought punctuated by wet conditions...", a time interval that may span multiple years, and no seasonal restrictions on drought or wet conditions.

These are major differences, and he does not point these differences out, thereby lying by implication.
13 posted on 03/21/2017 11:52:34 AM PDT by Darteaus94025 (Can't have a Liberal without a Lie)
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To: dhs12345

Most of California is not desert. Fought this out once before here, maybe with you, I don’t know. Anyway much of the state is dry, but not desert. Very few people live in the desert areas.


14 posted on 03/21/2017 11:53:01 AM PDT by SoCal Pubbie
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To: Behind the Blue Wall

There has been no persistent temperature increase for at least fifteen years, and we may even be in a world wide DECLINE of average temperatures as recorded on a year-to-year basis. But there is no quantifiable way to assign either an increase or decrease of the average year-to-year temperatures to the activities of mankind. Sure, in a highly localized area, there may be effects from human activity, but it cancels out nicely when all the areas NOT affected by human activity are factored in. The earth keeps a remarkably stable balance of heat received/generated in the atmosphere and hydrosphere, and how much gets radiated off at nighttime by the action of water vapor rising to stratospheric level, radiating off the heat and forming ice crystals, which then fall back to earth as some form of precipitation.

Of course there is climate change going on. Just that it is not significantly affected one way or the other by human activity.


15 posted on 03/21/2017 11:54:25 AM PDT by alloysteel (John Galt has chosen to take the job. This time, Atlas did NOT shrug.)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

We had record rain this year. I believe we had near record snow too.

How does he explain that?

We didn’t get far less snow and far more rain because of it.

Even their own references don’t explain away their lies.

These people have a believe system, and no lack of validation or amount of refutation is going to stop them from this lunacy.

It’s warming! Believe me! Or else!


16 posted on 03/21/2017 11:56:07 AM PDT by DoughtyOne (NeverTrump, a movement that was revealed to be a movement. Thank heaven we flushed!)
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To: Puppage
Ain't weather grand?

And note that he said that WITHOUT referencing man made change, and included historical data going far back prior to any credible influence of carbon fueled vehicles or industry.

In other words, that's what it does here.

Having lived through it for the past 30 years in California, and another 30 years in the rest of the West, I can safely say that's exactly what the weather in the West DOES.

Whether there's humans around or not.

17 posted on 03/21/2017 11:56:09 AM PDT by Regulator
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

Fake news about Fake Science now called Climate Change, not Goregull warming.

So when mother nature has climate changes like she has had for millions of years, the faux scientists label it Climate Change!


18 posted on 03/21/2017 11:59:36 AM PDT by Grampa Dave ( Remember during Trump Tower Spydgate, there were No American fingerprints; just Obama's...!!!!:))
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To: Oldeconomybuyer
“When you look back at the historical record of climate in California, you see this pattern of intense drought punctuated by wet conditions,

And I'm guessing that much of that "historical record" predates the release of any significant quantities of CO2.

19 posted on 03/21/2017 11:59:52 AM PDT by DuncanWaring (The Lord uses the good ones; the bad ones use the Lord.)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

Every 20 years or so, all heck breaks loose, the ERF gets a good sweat on. go figure.


20 posted on 03/21/2017 12:00:25 PM PDT by NormsRevenge (Semper Fi - Monthly Donors Rock!!!)
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