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California's Boondoggle Bullet Train Goes Off The (Fiscal) Rails
IBD ^ | 03/21/2017

Posted on 03/21/2017 8:09:19 AM PDT by SeekAndFind

State Waste: The Golden State's vaunted bullet train project, planned to connect San Francisco to Los Angeles, may be in its financial death throes. If so, it's probably the best fiscal news for the Golden State in years.

To say that Gov. Jerry Brown's pet project, the so-called high-speed train, is troubled would be an understatement. From the very beginning, it has been a testament to political hubris, fiscal irresponsibility, outright lies and abysmal planning.

The bullet train idea was floated on a blustery gust of political promises in 2008, when proponents put the high-speed rail to the state's voters in the form of a $10 billion bond issue to pay for its initial costs.

With hard-hit voters then suffering from the worst of the financial crisis, they fell for pledges of high-paying jobs and an ultrafast, low-cost train that would speed passengers from the San Francisco Bay Area to Los Angeles in a mere two hours and 40 minutes.

The proposal passed. But as the scale of deception behind the project has become known, it has been hit by a series of legal and environmental challenges. Even so, California has already committed to spending more than the $10 billion bond amount, and taxpayers are on the hook. It's a runaway train.

Worse, since the bond issue passed in 2008, cost estimates have only soared. Initially budgeted at $32 billion, the price tag is now put at twice that: $68 billion or more. Even the initial stretch of track, which lies on the flattest, easiest-to-build part of the entire total 700-mile route, has seen its cost soar 50%, from $6.4 billion to $10 billion.

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TOPICS: Business/Economy; Culture/Society; News/Current Events; US: California
KEYWORDS: boondoggle; bullettrain; california; highspeedrail; hsr; rail
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To: antidemoncrat

Two derailments in over fifty years of continuous operations. That’s not a bad safety record.


41 posted on 03/21/2017 9:26:59 AM PDT by MeganC (Democrat by birth, Republican by default, conservative by principle.)
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To: kiltie65
Can you give us documentation of when and how that "tax" was passed?

Who "introduced" it?

42 posted on 03/21/2017 9:28:43 AM PDT by publius911 (I SUPPORT MY PRESIDENT?)
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To: riverdawg; All

Another thing nobody ever considers is making the modifications and/or upgrades to standard freight lines to be able to throw some passenger cars on them for standby rides. You’d have to be pretty hard on the on-off scheduling, but it seems there’s a buck and some easy transport to be made there as long as the regulators and lawyers aren’t allowed to finger into it...


43 posted on 03/21/2017 9:28:54 AM PDT by Axenolith (Government blows, and that which governs least, blows least...)
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To: ExTexasRedhead
Brown’s buddies expect to suck millions out of CA that don’t exist. Typical Liberal political corruption.

CA doesn't exist?
I wish!

4: )

44 posted on 03/21/2017 9:32:14 AM PDT by publius911 (I SUPPORT MY PRESIDENT?)
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To: kiltie65

California government is reaching out everywhere to grub money. We own a small office building in Northern California that has an elevator. When we purchased the building 17 years ago the State Inspection fee was $110 per year, and the inspector actually showed up once a year to do the physical inspection. Now that fee has been raised within the past three or four years to $220. Initially, what we saw was that the annual physical inspection was slipping by several months. The last inspection that actually took place had slipped out to 18 months. This past inspection wasn’t done at all. We simply received a letter demanding that we do several things regarding maintenance without benefit of the actual visit by the inspector. And the letter we received mandated that we have our elevator repair service “do the work” and send a letter to the State attesting to the fact that the “work” had been done within 60 days or we would be assessed a $750 penalty. The “maintenance items” were “removal of the “debris” from on top of the car and vacuuming the walls of the “hoistway.” In point of fact, neither of these conditions actually existed as I used a vacuum in the areas in question and sent the photos to repair service. They then simply sent the letter and we avoided an unneeded service call. This is just one small example if the perfidy of our state government.


45 posted on 03/21/2017 9:34:22 AM PDT by vette6387
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To: Gaffer

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46 posted on 03/21/2017 9:34:33 AM PDT by SeekAndFind
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To: vette6387
Paragraphs are our friends...

I wonder what you said?

47 posted on 03/21/2017 9:38:39 AM PDT by publius911 (I SUPPORT MY PRESIDENT?)
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To: SeekAndFind

The 2008 ballot proposition was specific on speed and cost.

What Brown is delivering is nowhere near either.

The courts won’t intervene.

Supporting governing against the will of the people.


48 posted on 03/21/2017 9:43:23 AM PDT by cicero2k
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To: SeekAndFind

The 2008 ballot proposition was specific on speed and cost.

What Brown is delivering is nowhere near either.

The courts won’t intervene.

Supporting governing against the will of the people.


49 posted on 03/21/2017 9:43:34 AM PDT by cicero2k
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To: SeekAndFind

The “bullet train” was nothing more than a transfer of wealth from the middle class to the elite. It never was or is suppose to be built.

The Democrats control Sacramento.

The Democrats pretty much own the media.

This means there will be no real investigation over any of this.

California is a clear example of power corrupts and absolute power corrupts absolutely.


50 posted on 03/21/2017 9:48:38 AM PDT by CIB-173RDABN (US out of the UN, UN out of the US)
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To: SeekAndFind

The California politicians are idiots.

The California voters are idiots.

California is doomed.


51 posted on 03/21/2017 9:54:53 AM PDT by Freedom_Is_Not_Free (The GOP will see the light, because Trump will make them feel the heat.it is hugh and series)
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To: SeekAndFind
...planned to connect San Francisco to Los Angeles....

Why would anybody want to in the first place?...............

52 posted on 03/21/2017 10:00:07 AM PDT by Red Badger (Ending a sentence with a preposition is nothing to be afraid of........)
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To: SeekAndFind

Trump needs to cut any Federal funding from this boondoggle.


53 posted on 03/21/2017 10:23:21 AM PDT by Parley Baer
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To: SeekAndFind

You didn’t even comment on your OWN opening OP.


54 posted on 03/21/2017 10:34:48 AM PDT by Gaffer
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To: SeekAndFind

Who could NOT see this coming from 100 miles away? Just like ObamaCare, only an idiot would think that the costs would over run even the worst case estimates... sheesh.


55 posted on 03/21/2017 10:40:22 AM PDT by Paradox ("Donald Trump", the biggest Strawman ever created.)
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To: Red Badger

The train would just be full of homeless. All the San Fran bums would get one way tickets to LA. All the LA bums would get one way tickets to San Fran.


56 posted on 03/21/2017 10:47:15 AM PDT by Organic Panic (Flinging poo is not a valid argument)
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To: SeekAndFind
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57 posted on 03/21/2017 11:01:27 AM PDT by tumblindice
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To: SeekAndFind
"Believe me, they will be crying to the Federal government for help eventually."

But they'll be crying to the Federal government and stupid voters over the dams, bridges, highways, and electrical grid, that they let collapse in order to pay for this stupid idea, not the stupid project that swallowed all the money.

58 posted on 03/21/2017 11:07:30 AM PDT by Rashputin (Jesus Christ doesn't evacuate His troops, He leads them to victory !!)
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To: publius911

That’s a good idea. I think there are a number of good ideas that would kill this thing.

There’s no money for it. If the idea is good, seek investors.

Let the private sector handle this swell idea if it’s that swell.


59 posted on 03/21/2017 11:08:34 AM PDT by DoughtyOne (NeverTrump, a movement that was revealed to be a movement. Thank heaven we flushed!)
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To: SeekAndFind

All cultures are equal, even Chicongo.


60 posted on 03/21/2017 11:26:11 AM PDT by PLMerite (Lord, let me die fighting lions. Amen)
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