Posted on 03/19/2017 12:29:32 PM PDT by Jim Robinson
It can't. It's a lie if they say it can.
Keep the government OUT!!
I like the simplicity of your plan, but the math doesn’t work. 30 million people * $1 million fund = $30 TRILLION dollars.
Now granted that $1 million is over a lifetime and most wouldn’t spend that much. But then what do you do, if they exceed $1 million?
If you reinstated the old anti trust laws where providers couldn’t charge one person more than another for the same service, that would bring rates down.
Right now Hospitals charge 4 to 5 times what they actually get. 80% of the charge is written off do to contractual agreements with insurance companies.
That’s one of the reasons a fund wouldn’t work, is because it would get hit with 5x actual charges.
How can MORE government involvement make overall health care costs go down?
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Well, government will say:
“...and your health care costs will go down...”
What about that does no one understand??????
(I’m sorry folks, my seriousness quotient is totally shot, probably permanently.)
After typing that ‘smart remark’, I looked up ‘seriousness quotient’; well, there IS such a thing. Now I KNOW my SQ IS irretrievable.
We voted for President Trump, we supported him, so how about quit guessing what he is doing, since we are not there in the meetings, and let him do his job...
We all know what kind of ‘snake oil’ RINO RYAN and the rest of the snakes are, so maybe JUST maybe President Trump wants to see what these ‘snakes’ are going to do, once it gets to his desk, he will take his team and dismantle it and make into the Health Care he has told us he would do...
WE are not there, WE don't know what is going on behind closed doors, all WE hear is what the media or other people say he says, granted, it seemed the other night he was for this, but was that really what he was saying???
Don't try to read between the lines...he hasn't done us wrong yet, and I really don't believe he will start now!!!
The most important line here is the one that says “The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the States, are reserved to the States respectively, or to the people.”
We voted for Trump and our current Republican congressional majorities to repeal the unconstitutional federal government intrusion into our health care system and keep it out. Obamacare must be repealed and replaced by free market solutions with no federal government intrusion.
It’s part and parcel to draining the swamp and making American great again and we must continue reminding them of that.
Trump WILL SIGN this horrific RINO-crafted healthcare law if it reaches his desk. He said so. He is pushing for it.
“The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the States, are reserved to the States respectively, or to the people.”
Now I have a question to you:
How do you think California Government is going to make your health care better? Knowing ‘Moonbeam’ Brown and the others, are you sure you want your State of California to be telling you how your Medicare and other things are going to be run?
President Trump is NOT trying to let government into health care, he has said that repeatedly, but just how great of a plan is California going to give to the people?
I don't even know if here in Utah it's going to be any better, every State has it's snakes...be care what you wish for...we just might get worse...
California and Brown can’t make healthcare better. Neither can the feds or Ryan or Trump. Only free markets. Leave it to the PEOPLE! Sure, the state governments want to step in to help poor people get healthcare and that’s fine. But leave healthcare for the majority of the people alone. We’d much rather be self-sufficient and responsible for our own. It’s called freedom.
Let the Health providers see how this is going to work, are the rates in insurance premiums in California going to be higher than those in Texas, or Arkansas? We don't know yet, because we are not at that path in the road yet...
For 8 years health care providers have been getting the ‘cream of the crop’ because bami and his bill, well that is all going to quit now...they are going to have to decide if their company is going to provide the best health care plans there are, or are they going to be upset by not getting the ‘gravy train’ they have been riding on...
This is all I'm saying, lets see how this works out, turn off the t.v.; the radio talkers and lets hear and see what is going down the path...
President Trump HASN'T let us down yet, and I really don't think he's going to on this agenda either...
Obama could. He was a genius!
(I did not say anything about the accuracy of his solution...)
It’s none of the federal government’s business.
But that data point is skewed by a lot of factors, and the difference is small. Many other countries have significantly higher life expectancies that either the United States of Cuba.
The real difference is that people who are working at any job are more healthy than folks that aren't working, since many who aren't working have chronic illnesses. In reality, unless the employee groups are Walmart sized the insurance company isn't relying on any particular group as a risk pool. But they say they are since it allows the insurance company to set the pricing differently for each prospective customer.
If you have ever solicited insurance bids for a small group it is obvious that the price changes between bidders are based on competitive factors, not the demographics and risk profile of the group.
...and I agree with you, it should NEVER have been in the government in the first place, but now that it is, the only way to get it out of the government is to let President Trump intervene in it...
After Army service I sold Insurance. I went to work with Mutual of Omaha as they had a great health insurance field underwriting guide plus they had a training school in Miami. I worked for EF Hutton later. Mutual of Omaha offers both Individual health plus group. They are better at tailoring individual plans from heath, disability income,cancer, medicare supplements etc. Take their old million dollar major medical plan. It was $100 deductible, then 80% to 5K after that 100% to 1 million. Aetna, Humana, and a number of others were big in Group Insurance. I went on my own after EF Hutton.
I agree. But the proper constitutional intervention is for the Republican controlled house and senate to pass a clean repeal bill and for Trump to sign it into law. Then continue removing any and all other federal roadblocks preventing free market solutions. Combating local and state level government tyranny is a whole ‘nother issue. The feds should only be involved in blocking unconstitutional tyranny where they can, ie, throwing out unconstitutional state laws or state court rulings, or fighting against racketeering, corruption, etc.
President Trump should eliminate any federal agency or department that doesn’t meet strict Constitutional requirements of either providing for the National Defense or facilitating commerce and free enterprise. Anything else is a pathway to socialism or worse and not a mandate of the federal government.
State governments, on the other hand are required to take on whatever actions their residents require not under the fed mandate. That is in the Constitution. The 10th Amendment states: The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the States, are reserved to the States respectively, or to the people. People should read it sometime. Our forefathers never intended the federal government to become the behemoth it has become and the main reason they wanted citizens to be well armed so as to prevent such a thing from happening.
Assume, one-seventh of a 14 trillion dollar economy is 2 trillion dollars. Assume 100 million families, means per family part is (2x10 to the 12th divided by 10 to the 8th) is 2x10 to the 4th, $20,000 per family. First you slash wages, doctors become Uber drivers, nurses are paid minimum wage where they can flip burgers for the same wage and not have to clean bedpans. All of this can be instigated by law, since, the unions crawled in bed with the Bolshies. Second, you lower the cost of hospitals, drugs and devices where nobody can make a minimum wage. Finally, you give everyone their own bottle of Aspirin, and, miraculously health care becomes $2 per person. Voila, government has lowered the cost of health care.
Yeah, I know he told us that, but I still wonder why someone that smart can't speak without a teleprompter.
Why, to help him pace the flow of insights he provides us to a rate we rubes can comprehend.
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