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Make the Democrats Own Obamacare
Townhall.com ^ | March 18, 2017 | Michael Reagan

Posted on 03/18/2017 4:49:29 AM PDT by Kaslin

At my age I'm pretty sure I don't need maternity care.

At her age I'm pretty sure my granddaughter doesn't need health insurance for her end-of-life needs.

But what do I know? I'm just a dumb citizen.

According to the architects of Obamacare - if you can call the Democrats who designed President Obama's signature failure "architects" - I can't be trusted to buy my own health insurance.

The architects of Obamacare in Washington, all Democrats, decided six or seven years ago they knew what the best health plan was for everyone, rich or poor, healthy or sick, old or young, Californian or New Yorker.

For them health-care choice was never an option for individual American citizens - it was one-size fits all.

They decided that every American human being, no matter what their sex, age, health or personal needs or desires, deserved Cadillac care for any possible sickness or service.

Just in case you might desire to change your gender someday, for instance, you'd be covered for the necessary surgery ---- and get to pay for it in your insurance premium today.

When they drew up their plans the architects of Obamacare promised the moon but they delivered the usual piece of government space junk.

They promised insurance premiums would be low and be subsidized for the poor. Co-pays also would be minimal.

They promised all Americans would have access to affordable quality health care.

But in the real world it turned out many people can't afford to use their Obamacare insurance cards to actually purchase health care because the deductibles are too expensive, or Obamacare's architects severely limited the kinds of health care plans insurance companies were allowed to offer customers.

It should surprise no one that Obama's pie-in-the sky promises have been broken and his plan is on fire and crashing to Earth.

It was cynically designed by his administration and Democrats in Congress to have its inevitable and widely predicted problems emerge after Obama was safely reelected in 2012.

But now even some Democrats are admitting Obamacare has got serious problems.

Of course, no one in the liberal media is pressing Chuck Schumer or Nancy Pelosi to reveal how they'd change Obamacare to make it better.

If the media did ask a Washington Democrat to solve a problem they've created with one of their social policies, we all know the answer - throw more federal money and subsidies at it.

Republicans want radical changes that will get the government out of the health care insurance racket.

They want to repeal and replace Obamacare's mandates so that individuals can buy the health insurance plan they want from insurance companies that want to sell it to them.

What a concept.

They want individuals and small businesses to be able to join together in larger groups or insurance pools to pay lower premiums.

And they want people to be able to buy their health insurance across state lines (like car insurance and a million other things) instead of being forced to buy from their state's monopoly provider.

What concepts - freedom and choice.

The American people got Obamacare shoved down their throats because of the liberal myth that government knows best about everything.

Republicans in Congress - if they can get their act together and stop fighting each other ---- are in a position to radically change things for the better.

But they need to come together, present a patient-based, market-based repeal & replace health care plan to the Senate and then force the Democrats there to explain to the country why they are the ones whose filibusters are preventing it from passing.

Republicans have to make the Democrats own and defend Obamacare, which will soon die a natural death.

If that doesn't work, President Trump should invite every Republican and Democrat leader from Congress into the White House and lock the doors.

Then he should not allow anyone of either party to eat or pee or leave until they come up with a solution.


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1 posted on 03/18/2017 4:49:29 AM PDT by Kaslin
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To: Kaslin

and veterans don’t need ObamaCare...

but unfortunately we have it whether we want it or not...


2 posted on 03/18/2017 4:53:32 AM PDT by Tennessee Nana
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To: Kaslin

It could happen, but they clearly don’t want to. Simple math. Show everyone’s policy costs five years before and you will see what happened the year of full implementation and years since. Same with hospitals (who weren’t sold to a system). The numbers of providers and clinics bbefore and after. Strong data.. that none of them are using. If they are going to act like democrats, why elect them? Repeal today!


3 posted on 03/18/2017 4:56:30 AM PDT by momincombatboots (pathway to citizenship... Amnesty history repeats. Walling Illegals In wasn't the idea moron!)
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To: Kaslin

“Republicans want radical changes that will get the government out of the health care insurance racket.”

Unfortunately, from what I’ve see recently, Republicans don’t want anything of the kind. The GOPe has a good start on their attempt to make President Trump a one-term president. I just hope he sees them for who they really are before they have a chance to do him in.


4 posted on 03/18/2017 4:59:30 AM PDT by vette6387
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To: Kaslin

They already do. And in a month or two the Republicans will own Trumpcare. Which one do you think will be the issue in 2018?


5 posted on 03/18/2017 5:02:48 AM PDT by DoodleDawg
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To: Kaslin

How many people have to die before we get change? It’s not just DUMBOCARE but FDA/DEA and Big Pharma and their incestuous relationship with congress. That keep bad drugs and products on the market. Use the Stevens Act to break up their Monopolies.

Not all lawsuits are just to make money for a lawyer, many are legit. My grand daughter got that stinking Gardasil vaccine, her dumb mom did no research, just took the Peds. word she needed it. Not sexually active, it is a STD, not really a HPV, the vaccine covers 8 strains out of nearly 40. Japan, India, and Spain have banned it as a EUGENICS drug and suing Gates and Monsanto over it. She now has Rheumatoid Arthritis and Fibromyalgia all life long painful health issues, RA will put her in a wheel chair eventually, she was a healthy active 16 yr old before that vaccine she didn’t need.


6 posted on 03/18/2017 5:08:53 AM PDT by GailA (Ret. SCPO wife: suck it up Buttercups it's President Donald Trump! DRAIN THE SWAMP)
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To: vette6387

BINGO, never should have let Ryan and McConnell back into power. Traitors just like McNasty and Grahamnesty.


7 posted on 03/18/2017 5:10:54 AM PDT by GailA (Ret. SCPO wife: suck it up Buttercups it's President Donald Trump! DRAIN THE SWAMP)
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As far back as 2008, at the presidential debate in Nashville, Democrat candidate Obama advanced his signature plan that was ultimately enacted (by an historic straight Democrat party-line vote) into the "Affordable Care Act:"

QUOTING OBAMA: "No. 1, let me just repeat, if you’ve got a health care plan that you like, you can keep it. All I’m going to do is help you to lower the premiums on it. You’ll still have choice of doctor.”

Repeated over and over by every loyal Democrat---- conning Americans into believing they'd also be saving $2500.00 on healthcare costs.

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LOCK-STEPPING DEMOCRAT PARTY LOYALTY NOT SEEN SINCE 1930-40's ERA EUROPE.

SEN. HARRY REID (D-Nev.): “In fact, one of our core principles is that if you like the health care you have, you can keep it.” (Sen. Reid, Congressional Record, S.8642, 8/3/09)

SEN. RICHARD DURBIN: “We believe — and we stand by this — if you like your current health insurance plan, you will be able to keep it, plain and simple, straightforward.” (Sen. Durbin, Congressional Record, S.6401, 6/10/09)

SEN. CHUCK SCHUMER (D-NY): “If you like your insurance, you keep it.” (U.S. Senate, Finance Committee, Bill Mark-Up, 9/29/09)

SEN. PATTY MURRAY (D-Wash.): “Again, if you like what you have, you will be able to keep it. Let me say this again: If you like what you have, when our legislation is passed and signed by the President, you will be able to keep it.” (Sen. Murray, Congressional Record, S.6400, 6/10/09)

SEN. MAX BAUCUS (D-Mont.): “That is why one of the central promises of health care reform has been and is: If you like what you have, you can keep it. That is critically important. If a person has a plan, and he or she likes it, he or she can keep it.” (Sen. Baucus, Congressional Record, S.7676, 9/29/10)

SEN. TOM HARKIN (D-Iowa): “One of the things we put in the health care bill when we designed it was the protection for consumers to keep the plan they have if they like it; thus, the term ‘grandfathered plans.’ If you have a plan you like — existing policies — you can keep them. … we said, if you like a plan, you get to keep it, and you can grandfather it in.” (Sen. Harkin, Congressional Record, S.7675-6, 9/29/10)

THEN-REP. TAMMY BALDWIN (D-Wis.): “Under the bill, if you like the insurance you have now, you may keep it and it will improve.” (Rep. Baldwin, Press Release, 3/18/10)

SEN. MARK BEGICH (D-Alaska): “If you got a doctor now, you got a medical professional you want, you get to keep that. If you have an insurance program or a health care policy you want of ideas, make sure you keep it. That you can keep who you want.” (Sen. Begich, Townhall Event, 7/27/09)

SEN. MICHAEL BENNET (D-Colo.): “We should begin with a basic principle: if you have coverage and you like it, you can keep it. If you have your doctor, and you like him or her, you should be able to keep them as well. We will not take that choice away from you.” (Sen. Bennet, Press Release, 6/11/09)

SEN. BARBARA BOXER (D-Calif.): “So we Democrats want people to be able to keep the health care they have. And the answer to that is choice of plans. And in the exchange, we’re going to have lots of different plans, and people will be able to keep the health care coverage they need and they want.” (Sen. Boxer, Press Release, 2/8/11)

SEN. SHERROD BROWN (D-Ohio): “Our Democrat bill says if you have health insurance and you like it, you can keep it…”(Sen. Brown, Congressional Record, S.12612, 12/7/09)

SEN. BEN CARDIN (D-Md.): “For the people of Maryland, this bill will provide a rational way in which they can maintain their existing coverage…” (Sen. Cardin, Congressional Record, S.13798, 12/23/09)

SEN. BOB CASEY (D-Pa.): “I also believe this Democrat legislation and the bill we are going to send to President Obama this fall will also have secure choices. If you like what you have, you like the plan you have, you can keep it. It is not going to change.” (Sen. Casey, Congressional Record, S.8070, 7/24/09)

SEN. KAY HAGAN (D-N.C.): ‘People who have insurance they’re happy with can keep it’ “We need to support the private insurance industry so that people who have insurance they’re happy with can keep it while also providing a backstop option for people without access to affordable coverage.” (“Republicans Vent As Other Compromise Plans Get Aired,” National Journal’s Congress Daily, 6/18/09)

SEN. MARY LANDRIEU (D-La.): “If you like the insurance that you have, you’ll be able to keep it.” (MSNBC’s Hardball, 12/16/09)

SEN. PAT LEAHY (D-Vt.): “[I]f you like the insurance you now have, keep the insurance you have.” (CNN’s “Newsroom,” 10/22/09)

SEN. BOB MENENDEZ (D-N.J.): “If you like what you have, you get to keep it” “Menendez is a member of the Senate Finance Committee, which is expected to release a bill later this week. He stressed that consumers who are satisfied with their plans won’t have to change. ‘If you like what you have, you get to keep it,’ he said.” (“Health Care Plan Would Help N.J., Menendez Says,” The Record, 6/19/09)

SEN. JEFF MERKLEY (D-Oreg.): “[E]nsuring that those who like their insurance get to keep it” “The HELP Committee bill sets forward a historic Democrat plan that will, for the first time in American history, give every American access to affordable health coverage, reduce costs, and increase choice, while ensuring that those who like their insurance get to keep it.” (Sen. Merkley, Press Release, 7/15/09)

SEN. BARBARA MIKULSKI (D-Md.): “It means that if you like the insurance you have now, you can keep it.” (Sen. Mikulski, Press Release, 12/24/09)

SEN. JAY ROCKEFELLER (D-W.Va.): “I want people to know, the President’s promise that if you like the coverage you have today you can keep it is a pledge we intend to keep.” (U.S. Senate, Finance Committee, Hearing, 9/23/09)

SEN. JACK REED (D-R.I.): “If you like the insurance you have, you can choose to keep it.” (Sen. Reed, Town Hall Event, 6/25/09)

SEN. BERNIE SANDERS (I-Vt.): “‘If you have coverage you like, you can keep it,’ says Sen. Sanders.” (“Sick And Wrong,” Rolling Stone, 4/5/10)

SEN. JEANNE SHAHEEN (D-N.H.): ‘if you have health coverage that you like, you get to keep it’ “My understanding … is that … if you have health coverage that you like you can keep it. As I said, you may have missed my remarks at the beginning of the call, but one of the things I that I said as a requirement that I have for supporting a Democrat bill is that if you have health coverage that you like you should be able to keep that. …under every scenario that I’ve seen, if you have health coverage that you like, you get to keep it.” (Sen. Shaheen, “Health Care Questions From Across New Hampshire,” Accessed 11/13/13)

SEN. DEBBIE STABENOW (D-Mich.): “As someone who has a large number of large employers in my state, one of the things I appreciate about the Democrat chairman’s remark is — is the grandfathering provisions, the fact that the people in my state, 60 percent of whom have insurance, are going to be able to keep it. And Mr. Chairman, I appreciate that. That’s a strong commitment. It’s clear in the bill … I appreciate the strong commitment on your part and the president to make sure that if you have your insurance you can keep it. That’s the bottom line for me.” (U.S. Senate, Finance Committee, Bill Mark-Up, 9/24/09)

SEN. JON TESTER (D-Mont.): “‘If you like your coverage, you’ll be able to keep it,’ Tester said, adding that if Medicare changes, it will only become stronger”. (“Tester In Baker To Discuss Health Care,” The Fallon County Times, 11/20/09)

SEN. TOM UDALL (D-N.Mex.): “Some worried reform would alter their current coverage. It won’t. If you like your current plan, you can keep it.” (“What I Learned: About Health Care Reform This Summer, By Your Lawmakers In Congress,” Albuquerque Journal, 9/8/09)

SEN. SHELDON WHITEHOUSE (D-R.I.): “..it honors President Obama’s programs and the promise of all of the Presidential candidates that if you like the plan you have, you get to keep it. You are not forced out of anything.” (Sen. Whitehouse, Congressional Record, S.8668, 8/3/09)

Sen. Al Franken (D-Minn.) the 60th vote on Obamacare: "people who are happy with their current plan, wouldn't need to change it."
FRANKEN YOUTUBE SOUND BITE http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UCZmAYYNz8Ihttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UCZmAYYNz8I

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Twenty-nine Democrats who voted for it (including onetime lawmaker Landrieu who pocketed a bundle to vote for it) were ousted in the 2014 midterm Democrat Demolition Derby.

8 posted on 03/18/2017 5:14:41 AM PDT by Liz ( w W)
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To: vette6387
I agree with you. I'm trying to figure out why any of these people -- including Trump and the Republicans in Congress -- are hell-bent on passing a "fix" to ObamaCare that won't even accomplish the single most important issue in the minds of most people who hate ObamaCare. The Ryan bill isn't going to do anything to reduce anyone's premiums.
9 posted on 03/18/2017 5:31:34 AM PDT by Alberta's Child (President Donald J. Trump ... Making America Great Again, 140 Characters at a Time)
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To: vette6387
As I've heard, the bill as it stands now is just a start. The bill will go through multiple changes as it is run through appropriations. It is my hope that the conservatives will add language which will make it free of government mandates.

Maybe the age could be lowered for the “children” from 26 to 23 as I think it was. Twenty three is enough time to complete college.

Some pre-existing conditions are more severe than others. End stage renal vs high BP. Open insurance enrollment for working people sometimes has a year wait for pre-existing conditions. If someone was insured by ObamaCare, they should have a certificate showing that they were insured. That certificate can be transportable to the new policy within so many months before it expires.

When I changed jobs, I always had a form which was proof of my having had insurance. That form should cover those who paid for Obama Care coverage to be covered by new insurance. Therefore, no one covered will lose insurance.

If folks did not apply and pay for ObamaCare, then a wait period should not be an issue. Mandating that insurance cover pre-existing need not be in the bill.

Just my rambling thoughts.

10 posted on 03/18/2017 5:34:49 AM PDT by Bronzy (America got it right on November 8, 2016.)
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To: Kaslin

Michael Reagan voted for Hillary didn’t he?

Take what he says and do the opposite.


11 posted on 03/18/2017 6:13:12 AM PDT by Helicondelta (Deplorable)
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To: Kaslin

Since everyone is paying for all of these insurance coverage’s that they don’t need why not use them? Demand a mammogram, birth control and go to a gynecologist... Might as well get the service your paying for.


12 posted on 03/18/2017 6:22:41 AM PDT by maddog55 (America Rising)
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To: Kaslin
“Republicans want radical changes that will get the government out of the health care insurance racket.”

Then DO NOTHING and let Obamacare fail under its own weight. Period.

NO TRUMPCARE.

NO RYANCARE.

NO GOVERNMENT HEALTHCARE, PERIOD!

Let Obamacare FAIL on its own. It will be the DEMISE of the Democrat Party once it does.

Replace it with NOTHING. Once it's completely failed, THEN AND ONLY THEN REPEAL IT.

THAT'S how you make the Democrats "own it."

President Trump: The minute you try "fixing" it, YOU own it.

Do you REALLY want to re-brand Obamacare Trumpcare?

13 posted on 03/18/2017 6:26:54 AM PDT by usconservative (When The Ballot Box No Longer Counts, The Ammunition Box Does. (What's In Your Ammo Box?))
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To: maddog55
Since everyone is paying for all of these insurance coverage’s that they don’t need why not use them? Demand a mammogram, birth control and go to a gynecologist... Might as well get the service your paying for.

And this right here is how We The People make Obamcare fail under its own weight.

I'm gonna go to my doctor today and demand a mammogram and make an appointment with a gynecologist.

What's that old Shania Twain song? "Man, I feel like a woman?"

14 posted on 03/18/2017 6:28:48 AM PDT by usconservative (When The Ballot Box No Longer Counts, The Ammunition Box Does. (What's In Your Ammo Box?))
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To: Helicondelta
I doubt that very much, besides I didn't stand behind him and looked over his shoulder. For all we know he might have skipped the presidential election and instead concentrated on the congressional election.

Besides if you go through his archives, he is not nor has he ever been a Clinton supporter.

Lastly the subject is health care, not the election and especially not Hillary Rotten Clinton. So stay on subject, or not comment at all!!!

Thank you

15 posted on 03/18/2017 6:29:53 AM PDT by Kaslin ( In America, we understand that a nation is only living as long as it is striving- Donald Trump)
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To: Kaslin

I do not understand why they make this so damn difficult and such a big deal. Why not come out and say:

1: Who is in favor of revoking Obamacare entirely? Yay or Nay.

2. After Obamacare is dumped- private insurance companies can then offer health insurance plans like we had for years. Insurance companies being able to sell plans in every state and not letting the state insurance commissioner give only several companies who have influence with him the only access to sell health insurance in the state is a major factor to making insurance competitive and affordable.

It is hard to swallow, but; it is OBVIOUS that in the 8 years of Obama and his CAIR pals plus Soros and his ilk, that they have severely damaged and in some cases destroyed American values, morals,and even entire neighborhoods. Foreigners are all over America now, and; they are no longer living solely in communities that have their kind. Little if any attempts are being made by these folks to assimilate and learn our language. I am disgusted by recent decisions of so called judges and these judges are mostly Obama appointees. Obama and his Muslim pals have declawed our military with all the LGBTQ’s plus their PC MC BS etc.


16 posted on 03/18/2017 6:48:33 AM PDT by Lumper20
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To: usconservative

This country will then be so mush further in debt, that it will be beyond any remote chance that anyone could get America back on track.


17 posted on 03/18/2017 6:54:09 AM PDT by Lumper20
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To: Lumper20

Who is Michael Reagan a idiot who gets drunks and rants on twitter


18 posted on 03/18/2017 8:20:49 AM PDT by scooby321 (o even lower)
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To: scooby321

The article/rant is just as you replied. If this is the same Reagan we see on TV off and on I always thought he was a bit off base/out of touch with reality.


19 posted on 03/18/2017 9:07:26 AM PDT by Lumper20
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To: Lumper20
This country will then be so mush further in debt, that it will be beyond any remote chance that anyone could get America back on track.

Gotta let it break fully before it can be fixed. That is the ONLY way to get America back on track. Let Socialism collapse under its own weight. Let the LIEberals STARVE. Let there be chaos. Let there be DISORDER. Let there be a PURGE.

We already have Chaos. We already have Disorder. Two down, two to go. Let them STARVE. Let the PURGE of Socialism and those that support it finally begin.

I'm ready.

20 posted on 03/18/2017 9:11:43 AM PDT by usconservative (When The Ballot Box No Longer Counts, The Ammunition Box Does. (What's In Your Ammo Box?))
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