Posted on 03/15/2017 7:30:10 AM PDT by SeekAndFind
A new report by the Congressional Budget Office estimates that a 64-year-old making $26,500 per year would pay $14,600 under the proposed American Health Care Act. CNN's Christine Romans breaks down all the numbers.
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I hope you understand that no one has a family premium of $250.00 today. But I would love to have those days back!
You can’t buy hospitalization insurance anymore, but 15 years ago, this amount paid for everything after we spent $2500.00 in the year. We paid our doctors out of pocket and rarely if ever taxed our policy.
Now, our premiums and co-pays amount to over $20,000.00 per year, so we just don’t use our insurance at all. We pay not to pay — but we have insurance for all kinds of crap we don’t need or use, and we are “responsible” citizens (I guess our insurance company uses our premiums to pay for others’ health care). We have insurance if we are hospitalized and are able to co-pay $10,000!! But I can’t go to the doctor (except for the annual) and we don’t have vacations anymore....
Obamacare benefitted the insurance companies and expanded Medicaid, as far as I can tell. In anticipation of Obamacare, our insurance company started raising our premiums in 2006-07 and every year since has double-digit percentage increased it.
At 97, her major costs are covered by Medicare.
I don’t have a problem with a penalty. And yes I know the reason. I have made several posts about why it is necessary.
The problem lies in the fact that if you don’t make it affordable at the outset...people have no choice but to wait..What difference does it make if it is 30% higher today but 30% lower years from now but it is 30% higher for you because you couldn’t afford it at the outset.
I have a two-year old Android phone basic model that works fine and I pay $34/month for unlimited talk and text.
What on earth is worth $325/month to her?
it’s not health insurance that has bankrupted people- it is the friggin lawyers that have forced Health insurance companies to charge such high fees, and forced health care providers to charge such high prices- it’s also the damned FDA regulations that have caused the price of testing drugs and medical equipment to skyrocket due to draconian, near impossible testing requirements- Meaning that that cost must be passed on to consumers and patients- it is just a fact of life now that medical care- the money must come from somewhere- the quesiton that needs to be asked is, why is it the responsibility of government or businesses to pick up the costs?
#82 At 97, her major costs are covered by Medicare.
Plus she is covered if she gets pregnant : )
Hey Mr. Compassion! How about if I decide who is worthy of my charity and you decide who is worthy of your charity, rather than you demonstrating your compassion with my money.
ML/NJ
but what is also not discussed is how much people with preexisting conditions will pay- as they will likely need near premium cost insurance- that is the major sticking point of repeal and replace- The money is going to have to come from somewhere- and the only real way of getting that money- unfortunately would be in an unconstitutional mandate that everyone must pay in to cover those who can’t if the country is to have universal coverage for everyone-
It is unclear how universal coverage for everyone can work without an unconstitutional mandate- The whole idea of universal coverage was an idea that likely would never succeed unless someone could figure out how to get the money to cover preexisting conditions while not mandating everyone must purchase- Even with subsidies for poor people- the money to supply the subsidies must come from somewhere-
Maybe there is a legal, constitutional solution- but what is it? Republicans are in a pickle- just as the left planned it- The left knew that once you gave everyone ‘free HC’ it would be near impossible to take it away- and the left knew it would cause intense dislike of the republicans if the repubs tried to dismantle it without offering their own ‘free HC’ somehow-
It’s a mess- just like the left planned it to be-
Around 2009-2010 when Obamacare was the hot topic, my wife and I were in the car listening to Rush Limbaugh when a lady called in and said she would give up to 70% of her income so everybody could have free health care. Rush was shocked, we were shocked.
But this lady gets off easy having to give up a measly 54% of her income...
Beats me.
RE: Ryancare will jack up your premium by 30% if you don’t take insurance while waiting for costs to come down
That 30% does not tax or penalize you for not having insurance. Unlike Obamacare, It does not FORCE you to have health insurance OR ELSE....
It is designed to DISCOURAGE people from gaming the system by refusing to have health insurance and ONLY take insurance when they get sick or encounter a health catastrophe.
It can be used effectively if it is addressing a larger point and solution. When it is just used to hold up someone as “Look! It’s hurting this person! It must be stopped!”, it is disingenuous.
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All trolling is disingenuous but not all pointing out difficulties is trolling.
The problem is, the trolling is often disguised as attempts at problem solving or opening debate.
As I’m sure you know, an easy rule of thumb is that if it’s a leftist running his sump or anyone spewing in defense of anything leftard, it’s trolling, lying or plain ol’ idiocy.
You missed the point. Completely.
If you want insurance..but can’t afford it because costs have not come down..since Trump said it could take a few years..thus no insurance..the effect is the same.
By the time the prices come down you are penalized 30% with a jacked up premium because you couldn’t afford it when it first came out.
Get it now?
Really? - policies under the proposed new bill haven’t even been priced yet - in fact we don’t even know what the laws will be which proscribe what will and won’t be in them - how does she know how much they’ll cost????.....
“The Fertile Octogenarian’! A law school staple!!
If they don’t get this, it’s because they don’t WANT to.
Insurance companies are lobbying their heads off to keep this deal!
One day in the hospital will eat 6k. How about a gall bladder attack, strange bacterial infection that requires hospitalization, fall off a ladder, stroke, seizure in the middle of the night, heart pains which turn out to be indigestion but they run the full battery if tests and keep you there for observation ...any of these things will eat up 6k pretty quickly or close to it.
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