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Berkeley Removes 20,000 Free Online Videos to Comply with Insane Department of Justice Ruling
©2017 Reason Foundation ^ | |Mar. 7, 2017 8:31 am | Robby Soave

Posted on 03/11/2017 11:33:23 AM PST by Behind Liberal Lines

Berkeley previously housed an online library consisting of more than 20,000 videos of lectures. These videos were free and accessible to the public. But they are free no longer: next week, administrators will withdraw access to anyone who isn't a Berkeley student or professor.

Two employees of Gallaudet University—a school for the deaf in Washington, D.C.—filed a complaint with DOJ alleging that Berkeley's online content was inaccessible to the hearing-disabled community. After looking into the matter, DOJ determined that Berkeley had indeed violated the Americans with Disabilities Act

Berkeley had two choices: spend a fortune adding closed captioning to the videos, or remove them from public view. Cost-conscious administrators chose the latter option.

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TOPICS: Culture/Society; Editorial; Government; US: California
KEYWORDS: ada; berkeley; california; doj; education; gallaudet; moocs; onlinelearning
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To: WilliamIII
George Bush Sr gave us the ADA
The ADA is possibly the worst regulation(s) a small business has to comply with.

It's administered by the Justice Dept. and they can take/close your business faster than you can say EPA.

The tiniest infraction could cost an existing or even a new small business tens if not hundreds of thousands of dollars to comply with for wheel chair access alone.

61 posted on 03/11/2017 3:49:38 PM PST by lewislynn
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To: Junk Silver

“It is the essence of Socialism and Communism when you get right down to it - everyone except the elite is equally mired in poverty and lack of opportunity.”

This is why socialism/communism will never succeed in America because the commies are bogged down with so many rules that can never be enforced.


62 posted on 03/11/2017 4:03:42 PM PST by sergeantdave (Cats are like potato chips - you can't have just one.)
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To: bgill

FYI, I was a member of Free Republic under another name. I am not new to lurking and posting. So, don’t send the Viking kitties after me or Zot me.

Just remember that being hard of hearing or deaf is not easy. Hearing aids don’t solve the problem and cochlear implants are exaggerated hearing aids.


63 posted on 03/11/2017 4:30:12 PM PST by NCSUgirl4ever
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To: NCSUgirl4ever

Who might you have been in an earlier lifetime?


64 posted on 03/11/2017 4:31:25 PM PST by Tijeras_Slim
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To: Crucial
Berkeley had two choices: spend a fortune adding closed captioning to the videos, or remove them from public view. Cost-conscious administrators chose the latter option.

No; they did not.

65 posted on 03/11/2017 5:21:22 PM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: P-Marlowe
This ruling is insane.

This 'ruling' is soon to be overturned.

66 posted on 03/11/2017 5:22:35 PM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Behind Liberal Lines
I suppose someone will now sue because the aisle signs at Lowes® are ONLY in English and Spanish?


https://www.lowes.com/cd_Welcome+Lowe's+Speaks+Your+Language_830973134_

67 posted on 03/11/2017 5:25:55 PM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Behind Liberal Lines; BillyBoy; fieldmarshaldj; AuH2ORepublican

“Berkeley had two choices: spend a fortune adding closed captioning to the videos, or remove them from public view. Cost-conscious administrators chose the latter option.”

Not that I want to watch a Berkley Lecture but WTF? The courts are out of control.


68 posted on 03/11/2017 6:15:33 PM PST by Impy (End the kritarchy!)
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To: NCSUgirl4ever; Drew68
I agree with you, NCSUgirl4ever.

It's horribly isolating & normal-hearing people don't have a clue how to deal with it, and they don't make an effort to do a work-around on communicating.

I'm in the middle, born with hearing loss that has slowly gotten worse; am not quite a candidate for cochlear implants, so am in a race against time w.r.t. retirement... will my hearing last another 2 to 5 years?

I don't have a social life; all the chitchat and small talk and jokes go right over my head.

69 posted on 03/11/2017 6:24:53 PM PST by WildHighlander57 ((WildHighlander57, returning after lurking since 2000)
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To: Morpheus2009

One of the freshman students at UC-Irvine, whom I advise, doesn’t understand his Linear Alegbra prof, so he has been listening to the Linear Algebra courses at MIT and says that they are much better. These classes are the MOOCs that have been so popular. They are a GREAT use of the internet. If you checked closely, you would see that Not all of them are just basic courses.


70 posted on 03/11/2017 9:02:02 PM PST by DeweyCA
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To: unlearner
...it should not be hard for Berkley to comply.
71 posted on 03/11/2017 9:25:48 PM PST by Paul R.
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To: unlearner

Whups, the rest of my post went missing! Anyway, someone else correctly posted that the cost would be > $1,200,000.


72 posted on 03/11/2017 9:28:49 PM PST by Paul R.
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To: NCSUgirl4ever

Please don’t take this the wrong way: Sound & hearing is a BIG part of my life, and while I have experimented with sensory deprivation (sound and vision, years ago), it is still hard to imagine that as a permanent condition.

However... It almost appears as if you are handicapping yourself. I’ve been around a decent while, and have had the blessing of, well, “so-so” sight, and good hearing over that time. But when it comes to, not enjoyment, but real learning, I’d have to say that 80-90% of what I have learned since I was a young child was learned by reading. (This excludes transitory stuff such as the daily traffic report, or physical learning, such as how to shoot basketball, not that I’m any expert at the latter!) I sat here after reading your post and thought about it a while: I truly believe that at least 95% of what I have learned in some sort of academic sense I could have learned if I was deaf. In fact, without the often distraction of sound (particularly music) I surely would have learned even more in some areas.

Now, that doesn’t mean I’d want to give up music(!!!). But, humans are adaptable, and most real “knowledge” out there doesn’t require sound to be communicated. I doubt there was much in the Berkley lectures that cannot be accessed in other ways.

OTOH, the Berkley free online lectures are (or were) a convenience. So, I’d also ask, how can this outcome, at least as it presently stands, be viewed as a positive? Or is spite your goal?

Would it not have been better for the plaintiffs to have spent their time and money working WITH Berkley and Gallaudet University to approach charitable organizations to fund and organize the addition of closed captioning to the videos?


73 posted on 03/11/2017 11:39:23 PM PST by Paul R.
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To: WilliamIII

More specifically Bob Dole shepherded it through.


74 posted on 03/12/2017 12:09:04 AM PST by lepton ("It is useless to attempt to reason a man out of a thing he was never reasoned into"--Jonathan Swift)
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To: WilliamIII

More specifically Bob Dole shepherded it through.

As I recall, that was something Bush got criticism for right off the bat.


75 posted on 03/12/2017 12:09:51 AM PST by lepton ("It is useless to attempt to reason a man out of a thing he was never reasoned into"--Jonathan Swift)
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To: Paul R.

I wonder if every lecture given next Monday at Berkley will have a deaf interpreter alongside each speaker?


76 posted on 03/12/2017 4:27:45 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Paul R.

I wonder if people who speak only Afghan will sue because Berkley non-existence CC was not in THEIR language!


77 posted on 03/12/2017 4:29:03 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Behind Liberal Lines
In the world of the disabled, it has long been a fact of life that the deaf are content to be alienated and isolated, compared to the blind. Deaf people live in a world of their own and seem uninterested as a group in joining the rest of the human race, unlike the blind, who seek to maximize accommodations.

Not sure why this is, but that's the way it is.

78 posted on 03/12/2017 6:29:08 PM PDT by hinckley buzzard
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To: NCSUgirl4ever

I wish I was deaf so I couldn’t hear you come on a conservative web site and whine about how life isn’t fair.

DU might be a better fit for you.


79 posted on 03/13/2017 11:30:08 AM PDT by Augie
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To: NCSUgirl4ever

Why should everyone be punished because you are deaf?


80 posted on 03/13/2017 11:33:47 AM PDT by Bodleian_Girl (Please check out TheCitizensAudit.com to find out what David Brock has been doing)
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