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Boy finds WWII plane with pilot's remains in cockpit
http://www.nbcmontana.com/news/irresistible/boy-finds-wwii-plane-with-pilots-remains-in-cockpit/3841 ^ | 8 Mar 17 | JUDITH VONBERG

Posted on 03/09/2017 5:16:23 PM PST by ARGLOCKGUY

(CNN) - A 14-year-old Danish boy doing research for a history class found the wreckage of a German World War II plane with the remains of the pilot in the cockpit.

Daniel Kristiansen and his father, Klaus, discovered what's believed to be a Messerschmitt fighter plane buried in a field on their farm near Birkelse in northern Denmark.

"We went out to the field with a metal detector," Klaus Kristiansen told CNN. "I hoped we might find some old plates or something for Daniel to show in school."

Instead, they found bits of plane debris. So they borrowed an excavator from a neighbor and dug down seven or eight meters.


TOPICS: Miscellaneous
KEYWORDS: aviation; me109; messerschmitt; metaldetector; ww2; wwii
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To: ARGLOCKGUY
December '44; so it probably was an ME-109G "Gustav"

General characteristics

    Crew: One
    Length: 8.95 m (29 ft 7 in)
    Wingspan: 9.925 m (32 ft 6 in)
    Height: 2.60 m (8 ft 2 in)
    Wing area: 16.05 m² (173.3 ft²)
    Empty weight: 2,247 kg (5,893 lb)
    Loaded weight: 3,148 kg (6,940 lb)
    Max. takeoff weight: 3,400 kg (7,495 lb)
    Powerplant: 1 × Daimler-Benz DB 605A-1 liquid-cooled inverted V12, 1,475 PS (1,455 hp, 1,085 kW)
    Propellers: VDM 9-12087 three-bladed light-alloy propeller
        Propeller diameter: 3 m (9 ft 10 in)

Performance

    Maximum speed: 640 km/h (398 mph) at 6,300 m (20,669 ft)
    Cruise speed: 590 km/h (365 mph) at 6,000 m (19,680 ft)
    Range: 850 km (528 mi) 1,000 km (621 mi) with droptank
    Service ceiling: 12,000 m (39,370 ft)
    Rate of climb: 17.0 m/s (3,345 ft/min)
    Wing loading: 196 kg/m² (40 lb/ft²)
    Power/mass: 344 W/kg (0.21 hp/lb)

Armament

    Guns:
        2 × 13 mm (.51 in) synchronized MG 131 machine guns with 300 rounds per gun
        1 × 20 mm (.78 in) MG 151/20 cannon as centerline Motorkanone with 200 rpg.[68]


21 posted on 03/09/2017 5:51:09 PM PST by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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To: ARGLOCKGUY

I guess the 14 year-old Dane deserves an A on his school project.


22 posted on 03/09/2017 5:55:43 PM PST by Will88
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To: Sasparilla
Like Americans, German soldiers NEVER would have buried one of their own inside a downed aircraft.

But they did leave a crashed aircraft in the ground...

23 posted on 03/09/2017 5:56:45 PM PST by AnalogReigns (Real life is ANALOG...)
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To: ARGLOCKGUY
Several photos in other articles.

Google: Daniel Kristiansen

24 posted on 03/09/2017 6:01:26 PM PST by Will88
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To: central_va

This fokker was flying a Messerschmitt....


25 posted on 03/09/2017 6:02:02 PM PST by henkster
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To: BlueLancer

You’re as sick as I am .... LOL


26 posted on 03/09/2017 6:04:58 PM PST by Robe (A nation can survive its fools and even the ambitious. But it cannot survive treason from within.)
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To: Sasparilla

If it did crash vertically...plunging the plane 20+ feet into the earth, not much would of been left on the surface to see...and not much of a body to retrieve. I suspect they would of left it there, thinking it had been obliterated.

Considering that about 1/3 of the Allied air-crews were killed over Europe, I’m sure there were many Allied aircraft crash sites where no bodies were ever recovered. The Germans lost a much higher percentage of that...and I cannot imagine they carefully recovered all the human remains from obliterated wreck sites.


27 posted on 03/09/2017 6:11:56 PM PST by AnalogReigns (Real life is ANALOG...)
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To: Paladin2

Must have been shot down a million years ago.


28 posted on 03/09/2017 6:19:28 PM PST by WKUHilltopper (WKU 2016 Boca Raton Bowl Champions)
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To: AnalogReigns

....I cannot imagine they carefully recovered all the human remains from obliterated wreck sites...

An intact body is one thing. An unrecognizable one or body parts is a other.
We don’t even know what exactly was remaining, what the crash site looked like, and if the Germans were even around when it crashed. All of this is sheer speculation.

3 condoms? How unusual was that?


29 posted on 03/09/2017 6:35:53 PM PST by Sasparilla ( I'm Not tired of Winning)
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To: ARGLOCKGUY

Recall reading in Gen Yeager’s book about plane crashes. He
referred to crashing as “augering in”. Quite an auger,here.


30 posted on 03/09/2017 6:37:46 PM PST by Sivad (The Federalist #46)
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To: henkster
Lol!

Und vhy did you not recover der rest uff der plane, Private Schultz?

Because it vass a "mess Herr Schmitt"!

31 posted on 03/09/2017 6:41:22 PM PST by CardCarryingMember.VastRightWC
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To: Sasparilla

I imagine German officers (and enlisted) were issued condoms for disease prevention. Truth be told US soldiers were issued condoms as well.


32 posted on 03/09/2017 6:42:40 PM PST by AnalogReigns (Real life is ANALOG...)
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To: C210N

Sources say Sopwith Camel (W.W.!). plus this song says shortly after the “turn of the century”.

Snoopy Vs. The Red Baron:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6hLiNaz2-lk

You are right.

Poster you posted was wrong.


33 posted on 03/09/2017 7:03:41 PM PST by Graybeard58 (Bill and Hillary Clinton are the penicillin-resistant syphilis of our political system.)
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To: BlueLancer
Bluelancer says: "This may have been the Luftwaffe's version of John McCain ...

LOL. We should have been so lucky …

34 posted on 03/09/2017 7:07:27 PM PST by Governor Dinwiddie
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To: ARGLOCKGUY
I wonder if he flew over Pearl Harbor?


35 posted on 03/09/2017 7:29:24 PM PST by dfwgator
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To: Extremely Extreme Extremist

36 posted on 03/09/2017 7:32:23 PM PST by Daffynition ("The New PTSD: Post-Trump Stress Disorder" - The MLN didn't make Trump, so they can't break Trump.)
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To: jonascord
I've visited the Flight 93 memorial in Shanksville, PA. I highly recommend it. It's in a very remote, beautiful area. Nonetheless, this shrine will make your blood boil with hatred of muslims. Take your blood pressure medicine first.

According the interpretative information there, Flight 93 left a huge crater 50 feet deep.

37 posted on 03/09/2017 7:43:21 PM PST by Governor Dinwiddie
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To: AnalogReigns

That is what i was thinking. The Germans buried it. In December 1944 the Germans were not in the best shape and the economical thing to do would be to bury it.


38 posted on 03/09/2017 7:51:14 PM PST by BBell (calm down and eat your sandwiches)
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To: Sasparilla
Like Americans, German soldiers NEVER would have buried one of their own inside a downed aircraft.

In December of 1944 it would be better for propaganda purposes to tell a family the pilot was lost in combat rather than telling them he died in a training run.

39 posted on 03/09/2017 7:55:35 PM PST by BBell (calm down and eat your sandwiches)
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To: CardCarryingMember.VastRightWC

Groan


40 posted on 03/09/2017 7:57:53 PM PST by AFreeBird
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