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Unraveling the Feces-storm of Spygate
self | 3/7/2017 | LS

Posted on 03/07/2017 7:08:28 AM PST by LS

Up until two weeks ago, the Russians were being accused of manipulating the U.S. presidential election, providing the Trump campaign with evidence, and virtually everything else up to landing cosmonauts on Jupiter.

Was there anything the Russkies can't do? (Well, besides win the 1980 Olympic Ice Hockey game).

Then, in 140 characters, Donald J. Trump, PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES (hehe--I love saying that)---changed the universe. Let's be clear, outside of the White House and a couple of cubbyholes in the DOJ, no one, including myself, has absolute knowledge of the FISA taps, who was the target, and what they found, if anything.

But logic tells us Trump is right over the target.

Let's review. In the past 24 hours, two different neverTrumper analysts, Andy McCarthy at the largely irrelevant National Review http://www.nationalreview.com/article/445522/russian-election-hacking-fbi-not-investigating-trump-campaign, and Stephen Hayes, at the much more irrelevant Weekly Standard http://www.weeklystandard.com/trumps-wiretap-claims-what-we-know-and-what-we-dont/article/2007096, both show that the Russian narrative insofar as it applies to Trump is dead. Indeed, fake news media sources are literally saying "No, we never said that." Chris Coons, for example, has completely backed off from saying he "believed" such evidence of Russian collusion existed to pleading that he was "hyperventilating" and that he had "no evidence" (NOR DOES ANYONE ELSE, SENATOR!)http://www.frontpagemag.com/fpm/266024/russia-trump-campaign-collusion-narrative-joseph-klein.

Here's the problem with McCarthy and Hayes: they are so dismissive of Trump's innate genius they cannot possibly conceive of him actually employing strategy. To them, tweets are impulsive explosions, shoot-from-the-hip gunslinging. No, guys. These are perfectly targeted cruise missiles.

Then there's Comey, who no one seems to get. I admit, explaining him is harder, but I think he does play a strategic part in this. So here goes:

The first central question is not "Was Trump bugged/surveilled?" but "WHEN was Trump first bugged and/or surveilled?" Most sources concede that foreign governments may have been trying to spy on him since he became the front runner for the GOP nomination. Other sources hint that, "Gee, maybe the DOJ didn't spy on him but merely asked, say, Britain for their spying transcripts."

While it's clear many tried, I'm skeptical they got any further than they did with the GOP servers. Before he was the nominee, Trump had his own skilled security teams. I'm sure he has had these guys for business reasons for many years, and after dealing with NY City government, Exxon, foreign governments where he was building hotels, these guys were probably every bit as good as anyone the Feds have. So, if there were attempts to bug Trump Tower or Air Trump One, or any other Trump facility, I'm betting they were discovered early.

After July 2016, Trump inherited a second layer, the Secret Service, who routinely swept for bugs and other surveillance. No, DOJ could not tell the SS not to do this. SS answered to the Treasury. It's possible that DOJ could have had Zero tell Treasury to cooperate, but now you are really expanding the circle of potential criminals to a lot of agencies and departments that really wouldn't want to "go there." So, possible, but I doubt it. At any rate, between the SS and Trump's security team, I'm sure they found anything directly bugging him.

A bigger question is, "IF THEY FOUND SOMETHING, DID THEY DELIBERATELY LEAVE IT IN PLACE, KNOWING THE INFO WOULD GO TO CANKLES?" For example, one could imagine a conversation, which Team Trump knew would go to the Cankles campaign, like this:

Trump: "You know, we aren't getting anywhere in Wisconsin or Pennsylvania or Michigan. We better focus everything on Ohio and Iowa and hope for the best."

Cankles' team (listening in): "Quick, redirect us into Ohio and Iowa. We don't need to go to Pennsylvania or Wisconsin."

As former Clinton aide Lanny Davis would say, "We have no pwoof" of this, but it certainly is plausible, and given how pathetic the Cankles campaign was, not unlikely.

So, here we are in 2017. Trump is president. As we know from numerous articles, Zero has set up a shadow government. However, as everyone from Rush to "John Wick of Politics" on Twitter has pointed out, Zero never thought Trump would win and therefore didn't destroy evidence. In fact, since he didn't know, until last Saturday, that Trump knew, Zero and his black bag team planned to roll out little bomblets for the next six months, driving down Trump's approval numbers and undercutting his support with the public and Congress.

Rush Limbaugh has been exceptional at pointing out that Trump is safe as long as his voters stay loyal, because even Congress has to be brought kicking and screaming into victory.

So Trump decides enough is enough. With one tweet, he completely obliterates the Zero timeline, and nullifies months' worth of undercutting and sabotage. But here's where the McCarthys and the Hayeses and all the other "conservative" pundits completely miss the boat:

BY MAKING PUBLIC THE FACT THAT TRUMP IS AWARE DOJ/ZERO/TRAITORS HAD BUGGED HIM, TRUMP MAKES ALL FUTURE USE OF ANY MATERIAL IMPOSSIBLE WITHOUT SOMEONE KNOWING IMMEDIATELY WHERE IT CAME FROM. He cut the legs out from under the resistance in a couple of sentences.

While the fake news media might not ask such questions, any information leaked from such sources would be obvious to everyone else. This is important because of how I started this essay: the "Russians" meme has collapsed. The fake news media is not invincible, and even when they are lock step on a story, like a pearl inside an oyster the truth can be pried out with pressure.

Trump knows he's in a war. I'm told he only has two guys in place at DOJ other than Sessions. Sessions' deputy is to be confirmed tomorrow. Likely, given the Trump twitter charges, you'll see a little more urgency on the part of some Republicans to move others through.

Now, Comey: it is popular here and among conservatives to bash Comey, to demand his resignation. First, keep this in mind: Trump kept Comey for a reason. John Wick of Politics says his DOJ sources tell him it was because he was still investigating Cankles. I don't buy that.

This fellow (https://youtu.be/Yeie7j2RSts) I think, "gets it." Comey was extremely angry that he couldn't recommend indicting Cankles, so he laid out the best case he could against her, then made up crap about intent. Given his superiors, short of resigning---and I know many people think that's what an honorable man would do---he had no other options. So here comes the Trump tweet.

Comey pretends to be outraged. "This is terrible. This is wrong . . . . guys? Isn't it wrong? Tell me this is wrong."

Understand this process: Yes, Trump can declassify anything, but it must first go through review of the spy agency in question---CIA, FBI, whomever---for redaction of key sources, names, etc. Those agencies, if they are truly out to get Trump, would redact the hell out of any declassification making it entirely meaningless and unusable by Trump. So he has to get someone else to do it and at the same time ensure that key material isn't redacted. Congress can do this in secret session. The DOJ can do this (in this case).

Therefore, I agree with the youtube fellow that, in fact, Comey is running interference for Trump because he has no other options. He's hated by Dems, and Trump is is only friend. I return to the key question: "Why did Trump keep Comey?" (Beyond that, if Trump is as smart as we say he is in everything else, he wouldn't be so stupid as to keep a traitor this close.)

So there you are. Trump cut the insurrection/silent coup off at the knees, simultaneously destroying the entire "Russia-did-it" storyline, and, oh, by the way, did you notice, Trump just keeps doing what he's doing while the media is chasing it's tail on this.

Yesterday Exxon announced major hires in TX and LA, "some" version of Obamacare repeal was announced, Trump issued new anti-terrorism executive orders, etc., etc.

I still doubt that Zero or Cankles will go to jail, and a week ago I said we'd have to choose between Trump's agenda or revenge.

Now, I'm not so sure. These are such major crimes that I will be surprised if some high-ranking members of Zero's administration don't get indicted. I'll still stand by my prediction that it won't be Zero or Cankles or Jarrett . . . yet.

But who knows? Trump may yet tweet again.


TOPICS: FReeper Editorial; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: belongsinchat; comey; media; obama; russia; trump; vanity; wiretapping; wiretaps
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To: LS

That video was so desperate, like a spurned lover stalking outside someone’s window. I felt sick watching that.


81 posted on 03/07/2017 11:17:26 AM PST by Albion Wilde ("We will be one people, under one God, saluting one American flag." --Donald Trump)
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To: LS

As always, thanks for the ping


82 posted on 03/07/2017 11:21:29 AM PST by higgmeister ( In the Shadow of The Big Chicken! - Si vis pacem, para bellum)
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To: LS

You could have said more given today’s Vault 7 disclosures. We can only speculate what kind of evidence the President has to directly accuse Obama for leaks.


83 posted on 03/07/2017 11:27:00 AM PST by RinaseaofDs (Truth, in a time of universal deceit, is courage)
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To: 9YearLurker
But I think you overestimate the ability of his team to keep his communications and computers from being tapped

I think everyone underestimated just how powerful the shadow government that Obama built was.

Do you remember the Super Secret, Super Genius plans that GW was supposed to have?

Do you remember how many freepers scolded us and tried to prove that Roberts decision was really a secret plan to kill ObamaCare?

I am not sure how we arrive at all this speculation on how Trump's 3D chess game is going to save the day. I doubt anyone in his administration has better plans than freepers present here daily, but can't just assume that Trump or his people get it. Example he praised the Ryan bill this morning and clearly it is ObamaCare light, like a lot of us Freepers knew it would be, yet hoped that Trump would undo it.

84 posted on 03/07/2017 11:35:39 AM PST by itsahoot
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To: itsahoot

Indeed—Trump barely has any staff at this point and far too many of those he does have are GOPe operatives.

But I was encouraged to hear Rand Paul a few minutes ago say that Trump had called him yesterday and was interested to hear alternatives and improvements to what they rolled out today.

I can’t imagine trying to deal with all of what Trump is dealing with right now, but I hope he adjusts course to get more loyal staffers in to support his admin soon.


85 posted on 03/07/2017 11:39:11 AM PST by 9YearLurker
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To: LS
I think this ‘spying’ is bigger than just President Trump... Why? Because President Trump dumped the whole package onto those in Congress, supposedly investigating the so called ‘Russian’ connections...

I suspect there was spying done on Congress as well... and with Sessions recusing himself from investigating, Sessions, can freely communicate directly with President Trump. There will not be any unfounded accusations, that President Trump is out to get these criminals... One of the big screams of Watergate was Nixon ordering Mitchell around... not happening in this administration.

86 posted on 03/07/2017 11:41:23 AM PST by Just mythoughts
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To: Grampa Dave; 9YearLurker

Ultimate SCIF

87 posted on 03/07/2017 11:49:33 AM PST by itsahoot
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To: Fhios

Fhios wrote:

“...- Keep and foment violent protests. ...

OK, the opposition perps doing this are violating the law and can be charged under a number of statutes. One of which is sedition.


88 posted on 03/07/2017 11:51:13 AM PST by WildHighlander57 ((WildHighlander57, returning after lurking since 2000)
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To: LS
I apologize for the length.....

No need for an apology. I didn't want it to end. May I be added to your ping list?

89 posted on 03/07/2017 11:51:54 AM PST by azishot (I'm not arguing. I'm just explaining why I'm right.)
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To: LS; Liz; Grampa Dave; All

First rate. A+, and only a fool would even attempt to impeach your reasoning.


90 posted on 03/07/2017 12:38:38 PM PST by stephenjohnbanker (My Batting Average( 1,000) since Nov 2014 (GOPe is that easy to read))
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To: itsahoot

That’s a hoot!


91 posted on 03/07/2017 12:41:08 PM PST by 9YearLurker
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To: LS

BY MAKING PUBLIC THE FACT THAT TRUMP IS AWARE DOJ/ZERO/TRAITORS HAD BUGGED HIM, TRUMP MAKES ALL FUTURE USE OF ANY MATERIAL IMPOSSIBLE WITHOUT SOMEONE KNOWING IMMEDIATELY WHERE IT CAME FROM. He cut the legs out from under the resistance in a couple of sentences.


Excellent analysis.


92 posted on 03/07/2017 12:42:46 PM PST by samtheman (ObamaGate = Watergate Squared)
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To: LS

Bfl tead


93 posted on 03/07/2017 1:13:52 PM PST by hoosiermama (When you open your heart to patriotism, there is no room for prejudice.DJT)
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To: Just mythoughts

I am convinced any of us who donated to Trump were spied upon.


94 posted on 03/07/2017 1:28:42 PM PST by LS ("Castles Made of Sand, Fall in the Sea . . . Eventually" (Hendrix))
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To: painter

Mushroom farming consists of keeping them in the dark and covering them in manure.


95 posted on 03/07/2017 1:30:55 PM PST by Noumenon ("Only the dead have seen an end to war.")
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To: LS

I don’t follow this closely, but my understanding is if you make a CC purchase your data can be analyzed via the Dodd Frank financial legislation. They may strip your name out of the data, but they provide bulk data to researchers. At election time this is data is likely to be valuable. Just like DNS pings on servers..


96 posted on 03/07/2017 1:48:02 PM PST by EVO X
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To: LS

Will read a bit later - thanks for posting!


97 posted on 03/07/2017 2:39:54 PM PST by JudyinCanada
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To: LS
LOL, at least I'm in good company.
98 posted on 03/07/2017 3:28:20 PM PST by Duchess47 ("One day I will leave this world and dream myself to Reality" Crazy Horse)
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To: LS

That was good. Especially your second bolded sentence.

I do not think Obama is running the deep state, but both he and I are ok with him being called the boss of it, for different reasons.


99 posted on 03/07/2017 3:36:57 PM PST by Yaelle
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To: LS

BTTT when I’m sober enough to appreciate this...


100 posted on 03/07/2017 3:38:38 PM PST by CGVet58 (God has Granted us Liberty, and we owe Him our Courage in return)
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