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Leaked draft offers glimpse of GOP Obamacare replacement
Hotair ^ | 02/24/2017 | John Sexton

Posted on 02/24/2017 1:06:42 PM PST by SeekAndFind

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1 posted on 02/24/2017 1:06:42 PM PST by SeekAndFind
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To: SeekAndFind

Leaked? I hope it’s a trap to catch a leaker.


2 posted on 02/24/2017 1:08:33 PM PST by Aria (2017: Stay strong POTUS - the left lost control of trillions & will do anything to regain power.)
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To: SeekAndFind

While I would get the federal government completely out of the healthcare industry, this plan is good enough for now.


3 posted on 02/24/2017 1:11:18 PM PST by Repeal 16-17 (Let me know when the Shooting starts.)
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To: SeekAndFind

Is that the same Congressional budget office that scored Obama care in the first place?


4 posted on 02/24/2017 1:11:42 PM PST by resistance (abandon all hope and rational thought, become a democrat)
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To: SeekAndFind

The replacement plan would have no individual mandate. Instead, there would be a penalty of 30% for those who fail to maintain coverage.

30% of what?

The individual mandate is dead already. The IRS will not be collecting information about coverage.

This article ain’t right...


5 posted on 02/24/2017 1:12:01 PM PST by Vendome (I've Gotta Be Me - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wH-pk2vZG2M)
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To: SeekAndFind

“The legislation would take down the foundation of Obamacare, including the unpopular individual mandate,...”

Uhn huh and then you humbly inform us there is in fact an individual mandate:

“Instead, there would be a penalty of 30% for those who fail to maintain coverage. “


6 posted on 02/24/2017 1:14:59 PM PST by Vendome (I've Gotta Be Me - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wH-pk2vZG2M)
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We don't need repeal and replace. We need repeal and a free market. Let all health insurance companies compete across state lines. Companies that want to offer coverage to your 26 year old 'kids' can do so but at the expense of the policy holder, not the rest of us. You can limit exclusions for pre-existing conditions in portability but not in overall coverage. let there be a limited window for those with per-existing conditions to buy insurance. But for folks who wait until they get a diagnosis to start shopping, too bad. Allow and incentivize HSA's and then let the market take it from there.

I knew back in 2011 when the repukes started talking about 'repeal and replace' obamacare that they were going to screw us over when they got the chance. Thank goodness we have Trump in the White House and not Romney or Jeb!

7 posted on 02/24/2017 1:17:07 PM PST by pgkdan (The Silent Majority Stands With TRUMP!)
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To: Repeal 16-17

Agreed. What are they doing designing plans? Presumably keeping mandates such as to cover adults up to age 26 on their parents’ plans without additional cost? Etc. Etc. Where is the interstate competition? Who are they to tell insurance companies how much and for how long they can/should/must charge a premium for those who haven’t maintained consistent coverage?

All this stuff is none of the federal government’s business. And the free market should be able to come up with whatever types of plans are viable and attract customers in the market.

But, if this is the best they can somehow bring themselves to do for now, let’s at least get to this step and then move on with further deregulation in the future.


8 posted on 02/24/2017 1:25:26 PM PST by 9YearLurker
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To: Vendome

Click through and read the source article behind it: insurance companies are supposed to charge a 30% surcharge for the first year for new customers who haven’t maintained consistent coverage.

None of the federal government’s business, but their approach to try to deal with making insurers cover pre-existing conditions (again, none of the federal government’s business) without having people therefore only sign up for coverage when they get sick.


9 posted on 02/24/2017 1:27:21 PM PST by 9YearLurker
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To: pgkdan
They could even keep Obamacare without the mandate. Anyone who didn't get it would have to sign a paper saying that if they don't sign up, there's a two-year waiting period for coverage when they do, after paying half the premium for the time between signing up and eligibility. Thus, anyone who already has a long-term condition will have to sign up. Anyone who takes the risk knows that they'd have to wait for coverage.

Then, the free market could do what it does best....compete for our business. One real nice option I'd like to see is health-care clinic style where people without insurance could choose an inexpensive first-aid option, if that's their choice. To be blunt, those who didn't get insurance and can't afford any more than that risk not getting a medicine they need. Some might feel it's better to take that risk than to be paupers because of health care and health insurance for their whole lives. Some might even decide to live healthier life styles if the responsibility is on them. Some might only get accident insurance. It's their choice.

I don't want the feds controlling my body. That's really what it's all about for some people.

10 posted on 02/24/2017 1:30:09 PM PST by grania
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To: 9YearLurker

Individual mandate

Givernment Cronyism

Guarantee corporate profits, which ended this year under Obamacare and will return under Trumpcare.

Great...


11 posted on 02/24/2017 1:30:19 PM PST by Vendome (I've Gotta Be Me - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wH-pk2vZG2M)
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To: Aria

LEAKER...MCPAIN?.. Grahnasty?...it’s an inside job in our party!


12 posted on 02/24/2017 1:32:30 PM PST by RoseofTexas
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To: SeekAndFind

This a deliberate leak by the Administration.


13 posted on 02/24/2017 1:32:47 PM PST by billyboy15
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To: Repeal 16-17

Agreed that I want the govt out of health care. If not, subsidize all of major medical plans. $20,000 deductible per person. If you want anything better you need to purchase yourself on the open market.


14 posted on 02/24/2017 1:37:03 PM PST by cornfedcowboy
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To: grania

Obamacare should be completely killed off and buried. Every last inch of it.


15 posted on 02/24/2017 1:37:51 PM PST by 9YearLurker
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To: Vendome

Exactly—the 30% is a mandate, only collected by the insurance companies rather than the IRS.


16 posted on 02/24/2017 1:38:31 PM PST by 9YearLurker
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To: Aria; All

There needs to be extreme consequences for leaking anything out of this administration. Part of the non-disclosure agreement should be a paragraph stating it is grounds for dismissal and $100,000 fine for leaking secure documents or confidential information.


17 posted on 02/24/2017 1:39:31 PM PST by Cobra64 (Common sense isn't common any more.)
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DO NOT REPLACE!!! REPEAL and allow us to go back to what we had! DC has NO business being involved in our Health Care!!

(The one and only one aspect of the ACA to retain is the ability for those with pre-existing conditions to find some sort of coverage. The rest must ALL go, and NOT be replaced with ObamaCare Lite)

18 posted on 02/24/2017 1:43:34 PM PST by Teacher317 (We have now sunk to a depth at which restatement of the obvious is the first duty of intelligent men)
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To: SeekAndFind

still stinks. lose it all together.


19 posted on 02/24/2017 1:49:41 PM PST by stylin19a (Terrorists - "just because you don't see them doesn't mean they aren't there")
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To: Vendome

What’s the problem with those who refuse to contribute to the insurance pool being charged more when they show up demanding to use it? The alternatives are pre-existing condition exclusion, the current mandate system, or forcing the rest of us to pay the costs of the irresponsible. Those claims paying pools don’t fill themselves.


20 posted on 02/24/2017 2:27:19 PM PST by ArmstedFragg (So Long Obie)
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