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Leaked draft offers glimpse of GOP Obamacare replacement
Hotair ^ | 02/24/2017 | John Sexton

Posted on 02/24/2017 1:06:42 PM PST by SeekAndFind

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To: T123

But it will keep the cronies happy. Insurance available for purchase across state lines. Insurance coverage that is selected based on what the purchaser needs not on what certain groups demand. Those two things would help reduce costs.


41 posted on 02/24/2017 3:43:58 PM PST by lastchance (Credo.)
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To: i_robot73

I agree, they shouldn’t be conflated.

There’s two issues involved in the user pays theory, one’s the moral (not my brother’s keeper) concept, the other’s public health. Most of the plagues that historically wiped out civilizations every century or so were related to large numbers of the afflicted and contagious spreading the disease to the healthy population. The foundation of that was lack of treatment for the vectors. If the proper concept of taxes is that they should only be used to buy things that are beneficial to us that we can’t afford to buy on our own, I’d have to put knowing I’m unlikely to get TB from that guy next to me with the cough in the category of something I don’t mind paying a little bit for.

So I guess I’d say I’m a semi-libertarian on that issue.


42 posted on 02/24/2017 4:17:07 PM PST by ArmstedFragg (So Long Obie)
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To: ArmstedFragg

That’s what I’d envision. There would be an option of a low-cost catastrophic insurance policy. My plan would seem cruel, but in the long run first-aid and natural healing alternatives would get pretty good. With the mess we have now, it’s discouraging the search for low-cost health care solutions. How does that lead to anything that’s sustainable?


43 posted on 02/24/2017 4:34:06 PM PST by grania
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To: ArmstedFragg

Ah, yes, the ‘public health’. “I can’t define it, but I know it when I see it.”

I’ll stick w/ the moral side of that argument; the govt does sh!t on the latter.

For example: allowing the flood of illegals/’refugees’/etc. that have RE-INTRODUCED TB and a plethora of previously eradicated ills\diseases...for political gain.

A few years ago, not only did they NOT protect the Citizenry (IE: ‘public health’) by KEEPING people out, they flew the infected INTO our Country; not treating ‘em at the vector sector. The CDC couldn’t even stay out of the politics!

In each of these examples, not ONCE did I note the State give the ‘public health’ any more heed than Fedzilla.

How well does FEMA do during these ‘natural disasters’? Food/water/shelter mired in red-tape. Bureaucracy run amok, each little fiefdom fighting the own ‘game of thrones’...

If I thought, for one moment, govt would do the RIGHT thing (what it was ‘created’ to accomplish), you’d have a point and my support. The pandemic\epidemic comes, I have no doubt it will be by wilful negligence of our ‘protectors’; who will be the 1st ones to high-tail it to the nearest ‘safe zone’ w/ orders to shoot to kill any pleeb attempting sanctuary\support.


44 posted on 02/24/2017 4:47:29 PM PST by i_robot73 ("A man chooses. A slave obeys." - Andrew Ryan)
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To: grania

I don’t think your plan’s cruel at all. The more individual choice, the more freedom. The big problem with “one size fits all” government programs is that they tend to get so much crap attached to them that they end up being the wrong solution for just about everybody.


45 posted on 02/24/2017 4:57:10 PM PST by ArmstedFragg (So Long Obie)
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To: BobL
In the REAL WORLD we need to pull out of Obamacare in a way that will not make Trump hated by 95% of the country (50% is bad enough)...and I think this goes a long way towards that goal.

We better hope so. The Republicans own it.

46 posted on 02/24/2017 5:13:03 PM PST by DoodleDawg
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To: DoodleDawg

“We better hope so. The Republicans own it.”

Yep, I agree. What the Republicans, apparently, do not understand that Obamacare is now TOTALLY UNAFFORDABLE to anyone short of the 1%, unless they’re getting subsidies. Even 2 years ago, that was not yet the case.

They really need to find out what’s going on, if they want to have a prayer of killing this without killing their own futures.


47 posted on 02/24/2017 5:26:59 PM PST by BobL (In Honor of the NeverTrumpers, I declare myself as FR's first 'Imitation NeverTrumper')
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To: SeekAndFind

48 posted on 02/24/2017 7:40:43 PM PST by Ray76 (DRAIN THE SWAMP)
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To: grania

That’s why I’m saying their obligation would be to sign up for insurance coverage as soon as they need coverage, or they get a two-year waiting period.

That person who loses their job and has a pre-existing condition would have to sign up for the government policy to be immediately covered.>>> i like it. disincentive in the market to delay getting insurance. Or catastrophic which has been pushed out of actuarial price point.


49 posted on 02/24/2017 7:57:40 PM PST by kvanbrunt2 (all your base are belong to us)
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To: Repeal 16-17
While I would get the federal government completely out of the healthcare industry, this plan is good enough for now.

Agreed - the government was so entwined in health care before ObamaCare that it would have taken several phases to get it out - now it's even more complex. Progress is progress....

50 posted on 02/25/2017 3:06:55 AM PST by trebb (Where in the the hell has my country gone?)
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