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McCain Drives Into the Ditch
Hot Air ^ | Febuary 18,2017 | John Hinderaker

Posted on 02/20/2017 1:59:09 PM PST by Hojczyk

John McCain suggests on Meet the Press that President Trump is “suppressing” the free press, which is “the first thing that dictators do.”

“If you want to preserve — I’m very serious now — if you want to preserve democracy as we know it, you have to have a free and many times adversarial press,” McCain said in the interview. “And without it, I am afraid that we would lose so much of our individual liberties over time. That’s how dictators get started.”

The American press is “many times adversarial,” i.e., it is adversarial when we have a Republican in the White House.

“They get started by suppressing free press, in other words, a consolidation of power — when you look at history, the first thing that dictators do is shut down the press,” McCain said. “And I’m not saying that President Trump is trying to be a dictator. I’m just saying we need to learn the lessons of history.”

John, John, get a grip! Who is “suppressing” the press? Do you seriously not understand the difference between criticizing the press and suppressing it? The press is not above criticism. On the contrary, it deserves to be called out constantly for bias and inaccuracy. President Trump has taken a good step in that direction, but a great deal more press criticism is in order.

Also: not calling on CNN in a White House press conference does not constitute “suppressing” CNN.

The Washington crack-up continues apace.

(Excerpt) Read more at powerlineblog.com ...


TOPICS: Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: deepstate; fakenews; mccain; shadowgovernment
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To: fireman15
"Tigerseye, what do you call someone who has lost 5 military aircraft."

An enemy ace?

81 posted on 02/20/2017 5:32:47 PM PST by BlueLancer (Ex Scientia Tridens)
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To: fireman15

I know what I call someone who doesn’t bother to research the links provided to him. Blaming McCain for the Forrestal fire is just plain stupid. Too dumb to even find a proper adjective.


82 posted on 02/20/2017 5:33:41 PM PST by TigersEye (Winning. Winning winning winning every day!!!)
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To: Hojczyk

McCain should shut his yap and give that nasty gash under his nose a chance to heal.


83 posted on 02/20/2017 5:41:10 PM PST by ssaftler (January 20, 2017: Mourning in the Press Corps)
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To: fireman15
If you want to be John McCain’s biggest defender, you have your work cut out for you.

Oh, yeah, now there's some real stupidity.

84 posted on 02/20/2017 5:43:51 PM PST by TigersEye (Winning. Winning winning winning every day!!!)
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To: S.O.S121.500

he was already in the gutter........<<

Not when he was in North Viet Nam!!!....He was King of the captives as “Songbird”...(remember who his father was....lol..That doesnt get mentioned much now a days)...He has parlayed that thinking all the way to the Senate......He is the Beau Bergdahl of the Military!!


85 posted on 02/20/2017 5:55:02 PM PST by M-cubed
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To: fireman15

McCain’s old man was the head of the Bureau of Personnel for the Navy when junior was attending the Academy. He graduated nearly dead last, the Anchor. When does a midshipman who is nearly dead last in his class get to go to flight school? Never....at least in normal times. He shoulda ended up as a ground pounder.....or cannon cocker like me.


86 posted on 02/20/2017 6:19:22 PM PST by batterycommander (I learned my Artillery skills from the United States Marines. USNA 65)
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To: Hojczyk

It was McCain’s Campaign Finance Reform legislation that it my opinion un-Constitutionally gagged average people from speaking out 6 weeks prior to an election in the USA.


87 posted on 02/20/2017 6:33:27 PM PST by Sheapdog (Chew the meat, spit out the bones - FUBO - Come and get me)
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To: TigersEye
Blaming McCain for the Forestall fire is just plain stupid. Too dumb to even find a proper adjective.

The proper adjective could probably be used to describe someone who is a McCain defender in a deep state of denial.

The story of McCain “wet starting” his jet and shooting flames and jet fuel across a deck filled with planes loaded with vulnerable old munitions are said to have begun circulating immediately after the tragedy. Smart guy, maybe you can tell me how many other uninjured Forestall crew members were immediately whisked away by helicopter

Official whitewash aside... the people in charge most likely assumed because of his previous behavior and the eye witness accounts of the wet start that McCain was responsible. The truth about McCain is that he was a spoiled rotten hotshot and assumed he could get away with anything because of his family connections. He should not have been allowed to fly a military aircraft again after he destroyed the first one. Many lives most likely would have been saved.

As far as the links I provided... those were merely the first two... if you want to take the time there are far more damning links further down in the search results. They are largely far less charitable than the two that I provided. So your little hissy fit aside... McCain is the most worthless RINO waste of flesh currently in existence. He should be charged with sedition and thrown in Gitmo before he manages to do any further damage.

88 posted on 02/20/2017 8:32:24 PM PST by fireman15 (How many illegal aliens voted for Hillary in CA and NY alone?)
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To: TigersEye

Sorry, good list of links, should have looked at them before continuing my rant.


89 posted on 02/20/2017 8:36:54 PM PST by fireman15 (How many illegal aliens voted for Hillary in CA and NY alone?)
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To: fireman15

It’s been debunked a hundred time. It makes FR look stupid and gullible.


90 posted on 02/20/2017 8:39:27 PM PST by TigersEye (Winning. Winning winning winning every day!!!)
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To: fireman15
As far as the links I provided... those were merely the first two... if you want to take the time there are far more damning links further down in the search results.

Why don't you take the time to read the thread I linked to. Read the comments of FReepers who were there. Read the Navy investigation or watch one of the documentaries on it. Read my posts.

If you still want to argue it then do it on that thread and take it point by point.

91 posted on 02/20/2017 8:42:18 PM PST by TigersEye (Winning. Winning winning winning every day!!!)
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To: TigersEye
Why don't you take the time to read the thread I linked to. Read the comments of FReepers who were there. Read the Navy investigation or watch one of the documentaries on it. Read my posts.

I repeat my apology from post #89.

92 posted on 02/20/2017 8:46:27 PM PST by fireman15 (How many illegal aliens voted for Hillary in CA and NY alone?)
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To: fireman15
OK, thanks for that. I don't expect you to agree now about the Forrestal just because I showed you that I am probably the most prolific critic of McCain on FR. That's not logical.

Just as it's not logical to bring up McCain's four plane crashes as proof that he caused the fire on the Forrestal. Both would be non-sequitur arguments.

If you're still in doubt about the Forrestal fire I genuinely encourage you to research it and that thread provides pretty much all the information, posted or in links, that can be found. I wasn't trying to tell you to believe me I was trying to get you to look into it.

With literally dozens of malevolent things McCain can be criticized for having done I don't think it's necessary to use the one story that has no substance to it. I've vetted to the best of my ability every story in the big list of links and that's only a partial list of his calumnies. I have lists compiled by two other FReepers that are nearly as big with very little overlap.

93 posted on 02/20/2017 8:58:28 PM PST by TigersEye (Winning. Winning winning winning every day!!!)
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To: Hojczyk

AZ voters should be absolutely ashamed of themselves. But, like democrats, they’ll never acknowledge that they were wrong, nor would they ever apologize for foisting this disgraceful wreak of a...man on the rest of us.


94 posted on 02/20/2017 9:11:04 PM PST by onedoug
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To: Trump Girl Kit Cat

And the press LOVES him he leaks many stories POS indeed.


95 posted on 02/21/2017 8:50:30 AM PST by Vaduz (women and children to be impacted the most.)
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To: Hojczyk

Bitch in a ditch


96 posted on 02/21/2017 8:52:00 AM PST by wardaddy (trump is a great tourniquet but that's all folks.......)
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To: TigersEye

+1


97 posted on 02/21/2017 9:20:33 AM PST by wardaddy (trump is a great tourniquet but that's all folks.......)
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To: batterycommander

Dear battery,

re: “McStain nearly sank the Forrestal with his “Hot Start”.”

It is really AMAZING, that for, ahem, no apparent reason, the video history of that event has found itself in the ‘latest’ round of ‘recommended viewings’ on YouTube, and can be downloaded!

He has yet to be brought to justice for the deaths of Navy personnel, by his stupidity.


98 posted on 02/21/2017 9:34:05 AM PST by Terry L Smith
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To: wardaddy

Thanks.


99 posted on 02/21/2017 10:55:56 AM PST by TigersEye (Winning. Winning winning winning every day!!!)
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To: batterycommander; Terry L Smith

No hot start involved. The cause was something long the lines of a static discharge.

The Forrestal fire began when a rocket misfired due to an electronic malfunction. It flew across the deck hitting a fuel tank on the plane parked next to McCain’s and the conflagration erupted.

It’s one of the rare instances were disaster occurred and McCain wasn’t at fault. No need to try to blame the old fool for this one when there’s plenty of valid reasons to want him out of office.


100 posted on 02/21/2017 12:50:13 PM PST by Pelham (Liberate Occupied California. Prosecute Sanctuary enablers. Deportation now!)
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