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Trump Won't Lead On Civil Asset Forfeiture, So Congress Will Have To Push Him
Forbes ^ | February 16, 2017 | George Leef

Posted on 02/16/2017 1:15:18 PM PST by reaganaut1

In a White House meeting with county sheriffs from around the nation on February 7, President Trump sided with the law enforcement community in opposing change in the nation’s civil asset forfeiture laws. Here is the transcript of that meeting, and the president’s flippant attitude (he joked about destroying the career of a state senator in Texas who had proposed a bill to reform civil asset forfeiture) and eagerness to stay in the good graces of the sheriffs are very bad news.

Shortly after the election, I wrote that Trump should become a proponent of civil asset forfeiture and defang this vicious beast. A huge majority of the public thinks that civil asset forfeiture is wrongful, because it so indisputably is. Under civil asset forfeiture laws, people who have done nothing illegal and have not even been accused of a crime (much less convicted) have cash, cars, even real estate taken from them, based on nothing more than a law enforcement officer’s suspicion that the property might have resulted from or been involved in a crime.

Civil asset forfeiture is a glaring violation of due process of law that creates opponents across the political spectrum.

Nadine Strossen, then-president of the American Civil Liberties Union, attacked it in congressional testimony, declaring that “all civil asset forfeiture schemes violate fundamental constitutional rights, including the right not to be deprived of property without due process of law and the right to be free from punishment that is disproportionate to the offense.”

And Adam Bates of Cato Institute recommended that in his final year in office, President Obama should halt the federal government’s use of civil asset forfeiture and end its “equitable sharing” program whereby federal and state law enforcement agencies collaborate on the confiscation of someone’s property and divide up the spoils.

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TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Editorial
KEYWORDS: assetforfeiture; civilforfeiture; forfeiture; trumpassetforfeiture; trumpcivilforfeiture; wod

1 posted on 02/16/2017 1:15:18 PM PST by reaganaut1
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To: reaganaut1

He can’t be right on everything.

Not only is civil forfeiture an abomination that goes against everything the USC stands for but the WOD is the biggest waste of money and manpower since the WOPoverty.


2 posted on 02/16/2017 1:24:33 PM PST by freedumb2003 (Not tired of winning yet!)
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To: freedumb2003

The War On Drugs and the War On Poverty are quagmires. Time to pull out.


3 posted on 02/16/2017 1:25:39 PM PST by RegulatorCountry
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To: reaganaut1

Civil asset forfeiture is just a cash cow for law enforcement. So of course they don’t want to lose their slush fund.


4 posted on 02/16/2017 1:32:32 PM PST by afsnco (18 of 20 in AF JAG)
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To: reaganaut1
I have no problem at all with forfeiture in certain cases *if* they're preceded by some sort of criminal conviction.Temporary seizure in anticipation of a criminal trial might also be OK.

Otherwise....F**K THAT!

5 posted on 02/16/2017 1:49:51 PM PST by Gay State Conservative (Deplorables' Lives Matter)
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To: reaganaut1
I wrote to Pres. Trump and expressed my view that civil asset forfeiture undermines trust in the law and the Constitution. I recommended forfeiture should only result from a guilty conviction.

Write to President Trump. Let him know how you feel.

6 posted on 02/16/2017 1:50:29 PM PST by captain_dave
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To: reaganaut1
Hang on...just read a little further.It would appear that my attitude toward forfeitures is at least partially in sync with the American Communist Lawyers' Union.

I think I'm gonna have to rethink my position....carefully!

7 posted on 02/16/2017 1:52:39 PM PST by Gay State Conservative (Deplorables' Lives Matter)
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To: Gay State Conservative

Even a stopped clock is right twice a day.


8 posted on 02/16/2017 1:55:54 PM PST by MrEdd (MrEdd)
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To: reaganaut1

the Fourth Amendment is CLEAR, Due Process is supposed to mean just what it states. The policing agencies and their individuals who ignore the Constitution’s Bill of Rights by performing illegal confiscation prior to a court finding one guilty needs to be stopped. A judge is not the Constitution nor did the enforcing officers illegally confiscate personal property from a citizen take an oath to the judge who tells them its okay to ignore their oath of office. The US Constitution; Trump needs to learn it, live it and defend it by ridding the entire legal system of those who don’t.


9 posted on 02/16/2017 1:57:40 PM PST by drypowder
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To: reaganaut1

I can think of one person where I would be all for asset forfeiture: George Soros.


10 posted on 02/16/2017 1:58:32 PM PST by MCF (If my home can't be my Castle, then it will be my Alamo.)
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To: reaganaut1
I believe this activity is wrong, but, folks, Trump doesn't even have a cabinet in place, yet.

Everyone is going nuts over wanting everything done the first day in office, it would seem. Lay off of Trump, @-holes!

11 posted on 02/16/2017 1:59:05 PM PST by ConservativeMind ("Humane" = "Don't pen up pets or eat meat, but allow infanticides, abortion, and euthanasia.")
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To: ConservativeMind

Very, very, VERY well said!


12 posted on 02/16/2017 2:23:26 PM PST by gogeo (When your life is based on a false premise...you are indeed insane.)
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To: Gay State Conservative

The ACLU has been right about two, possibly even three, issues since WWI. Can’t remember what they were, though.


13 posted on 02/16/2017 2:27:04 PM PST by Arthur McGowan (https://youtu.be/IYUYya6bPGw)
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To: reaganaut1

IF the house and senate would get the really big stuff done then we can talk about the other important things


14 posted on 02/16/2017 3:17:28 PM PST by Nifster (I see puppy dogs in the clouds)
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To: ConservativeMind

We know he approved of the decision in Kelo vs. New London, which was an egregious abuse of eminent domain procedures. (BTW, the shopping center was never built.) We’re well within our rights to be critical of him right now.


15 posted on 02/16/2017 4:29:33 PM PST by jiggyboy (Ten percent of poll respondents are either lying or insane)
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To: jiggyboy
Jiggy, head on over to Democratic Underground and chime in, then.

This is not the time to go off on Trump on this forum. Keep it for later. He's been there just over three weeks and still has no Cabinet.

16 posted on 02/16/2017 4:38:36 PM PST by ConservativeMind ("Humane" = "Don't pen up pets or eat meat, but allow infanticides, abortion, and euthanasia.")
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To: ConservativeMind

DU is for those who don’t dare criticize their leader, and reflexively denounce those who do, on any issue at all.


17 posted on 02/16/2017 4:43:22 PM PST by jiggyboy (Ten percent of poll respondents are either lying or insane)
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