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The StingRay Is Exactly Why the 4th Amendment Was Written
Foundation for Economic Education ^ | February 13, 2017 | Olivia Donaldson

Posted on 02/15/2017 10:37:20 AM PST by TBP

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To: Rurudyne

I agree with you. I’ve had one for years, and I don’t think I’ve made more than 4 calls on it. I use it mainly to listen to the radio at home.

It’s kind of creepy to me when I’m out in public, a dept. store or restaurant, and someone nearby is carrying on a loud and sometimes very personal conversation while they eat, shop, or walk around...not to mention the dangers of driving while texting/talking.


21 posted on 02/15/2017 10:54:44 AM PST by Jamestown1630 ("A Republic, If you can keep it.")
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To: TBP
At least 68 agencies in 23 different states own StingRays.

A buddy of mine owns a 63 split window in like new condition. He actually has it stored in a climate controlled bubble in his garage.....

22 posted on 02/15/2017 10:55:14 AM PST by Hot Tabasco
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To: fishtank

23 posted on 02/15/2017 10:55:35 AM PST by treetopsandroofs (Had FDR been GOP, there would have been no World Wars, just "The Great War" and "Roosevelt's Wars".)
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To: All

Apologies for hijacking the thread. I don’t believe I’ve been so successful before, will try to curtail it in the future.


24 posted on 02/15/2017 10:57:12 AM PST by treetopsandroofs (Had FDR been GOP, there would have been no World Wars, just "The Great War" and "Roosevelt's Wars".)
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To: TBP

there is a USSC opinion prohibiting police from snooping randomly via infrared cameras into people’s homes. (unanimous I believe) Just because tech advances does not give the power to circumvent to the government.

Cell phones are not true telephones. They are really computers with vast personal data. All fourth amendment protected. Warrantless stingray, backdoors, and global warrants are just plain wrong.


25 posted on 02/15/2017 10:57:17 AM PST by longtermmemmory (VOTE! http://www.senate.gov and http://www.house.gov)
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To: Yo-Yo
>>"I still cannot understand how the Supreme Court upheld asset forfeiture laws as constitutional."

LOL! Joke of the day.

26 posted on 02/15/2017 10:58:22 AM PST by Aevery_Freeman (Agent Orange: The cure for Corrupt Crony Capitalism!)
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To: Hot Tabasco
A buddy of mine owns a 63 split window in like new condition. He actually has it stored in a climate controlled bubble in his garage.....

And I'll bet that plastic wrap protects all its delicate electronics from being probed by the police, too!

27 posted on 02/15/2017 10:58:38 AM PST by Quality_Not_Quantity
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To: Boogieman

“One problem is that far too many “conservative” judges are reflexively “pro-law enforcement”, even if that means supporting law enforcement trampling our Constitutional rights.”

Visit any Waco thread to watch the “pro-law enforcement” FR fascists advocate trampling our Constitutional rights.


28 posted on 02/15/2017 11:01:51 AM PST by treetopsandroofs (Had FDR been GOP, there would have been no World Wars, just "The Great War" and "Roosevelt's Wars".)
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“Visit any Waco thread to watch the “pro-law enforcement” FR fascists advocate trampling our Constitutional rights.”

OMG, I just responded to one of them!

Did not notice that when responding. Apologies again to the room.


29 posted on 02/15/2017 11:03:58 AM PST by treetopsandroofs (Had FDR been GOP, there would have been no World Wars, just "The Great War" and "Roosevelt's Wars".)
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To: BereanBrain

Everyone hates populists. So whats the alternative? Follow the elites? As far as I know, there is the will of the people or the will of the elites. The people seem much more in tune with the limits of a constitutional republic.


30 posted on 02/15/2017 11:05:53 AM PST by DesertRhino
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The FR fascists weakly post to other threads to water down and legitimize their “pro-law enforcement” posts about murdering bikers at Waco, who they decided deserved to be killed.


31 posted on 02/15/2017 11:07:39 AM PST by treetopsandroofs (Had FDR been GOP, there would have been no World Wars, just "The Great War" and "Roosevelt's Wars".)
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To: Yo-Yo

“I still cannot understand how the Supreme Court upheld asset forfeiture laws as constitutional.”

Or abortion,
or the interstate commerce clause to include every single human activity,
Or the Kelo case,
or Obamacare,

The list is quite long.


32 posted on 02/15/2017 11:08:54 AM PST by DesertRhino
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To: rktman

“Psst. Rurudyne. Off switch. Just sayin’. LOL! “

No, actually the off switch won’t do you a bit of good. Only not having it with you, or having it inside some kind of faraday cage will work.


33 posted on 02/15/2017 11:11:09 AM PST by DesertRhino
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To: Hot Tabasco
Tell him to drive the damn thing. 😀
34 posted on 02/15/2017 11:14:02 AM PST by rktman (Enlisted in the Navy in '67 to protect folks rights to strip my rights. WTH?!)
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To: rktman

I’m thinking a nice stainless steel cigar case would make a jim-dandy faraday cage for those times when you would rather be dang-good-n-sure your iPhone is not being a tattletale. Just turning off the phone won’t work.


35 posted on 02/15/2017 11:17:57 AM PST by Ronin (Blackface or bolt-ons, it's the same fraud. - Norm Lenhart)
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rktman :" Psst. Rurudyne. Off switch. Just sayin’.
LOL! I usually have mine with the sound all the way off or simply turned off.
GPS disabled for what good that does since, if it is on, it’s constantly pinging cell towers for a signal."

Even while turned off, the cellphone is still looking for cell towers or a stingray unit (same thing)
Why do you imagine while on 'Air Force One', you have to surrender your cellphone,.. and remove the battery ?
If stingray can reach into your phone, don't you think it also has the ability to turn it on, also ?

36 posted on 02/15/2017 11:18:53 AM PST by Tilted Irish Kilt (Muslim & Spanish migrants are like Kudzu--> designed to overload the system= Cloward-Piven)
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To: TBP

37 posted on 02/15/2017 11:19:41 AM PST by ClearCase_guy (Abortion is what slavery was: immoral but not illegal. Not yet.)
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To: TBP

I had a 2014 Stingray. Chevy didn’t tell me about this.


38 posted on 02/15/2017 11:21:43 AM PST by Kickass Conservative (The way Liberals carry on about Deportation, you would think "Mexico" was Spanish for "Auschwitz".)
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To: TBP

DHS started funding grants for it in 2006, under Bush. I would say that GOPe “conservatives” like Bush are a bigger worry for not caring about unconstitutional BS like the use of Stingray than populists are.


39 posted on 02/15/2017 11:31:30 AM PST by jospehm20
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To: factoryrat

These should be banned unless there is a specific target with a warrant. Any info from non-targets should be IMMEDIATELY discarded.

If we can’t ban this, then we need to arm ourselves with these devices and collect on all the politicians and judges who voted for this to be legal.


40 posted on 02/15/2017 11:43:29 AM PST by generally ( Don't be stupid. We have politicians for that.)
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