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1 posted on 02/12/2017 6:49:25 PM PST by artichokegrower
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Good friend of mine did large emergency job for the state in October and still has not been paid. They called to have him do more. He said no.

Maybe it will be better when California is its own country and they can print money /s


2 posted on 02/12/2017 6:54:39 PM PST by jcon40 (The other post before yours really nails it for me. I have been a DOS / PC guy forever and always e)
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They are saying that the collapse of the spillway is a matter of hours away. Hope they are wrong, but the erosive power of rushing water are often underestimated badly. The water pouring over the emergency spillway is eroding the base of the spillway levee at the bottom of the spillway “hill”. Once enough of that is gone the pressure of the water on the other side will cause a catastrophic collapse.

Yesterday morning the flooway plains between Sacramento and Woodland, which are normally dry, looked like a raging torrent miles wide, with the water only a few feet below the railroad trestle on the other side of the causeway we were travelling on. The river channels around West Sacramento are nearly full to the top. West Sac is like New Orleans - a city built in a bowl with river channels on all sides.

That’s where the water from any Oroville dam failure would wind up, on its way to San Francisco Bay. The potential is for some nasty flooding, and another big storm is days away...


3 posted on 02/12/2017 6:56:43 PM PST by Simon Foxx
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live streaming from Oroville:

https://livestream.com/KRCR/events/3724366?t=1486950431517


4 posted on 02/12/2017 6:58:27 PM PST by GreyFriar (Spearhead - 3rd Armored Division 75-78 & 83-87)
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President Trump has been warning us about our infrastructure. This is the quintessential example of pennies wasted resulting in absolute catastrophe.


5 posted on 02/12/2017 6:59:23 PM PST by Louis Foxwell (The Left has the temperament of a squealing pig.)
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“communicates with the hydraulics of the principal spillway”
This is key- the principal spillway has not been maintained and developed a whole where it’s foundation had eroded away.
Just incredible negligence.


8 posted on 02/12/2017 7:01:01 PM PST by mrsmith (Dumb sluts: Lifeblood of the Media, Backbone of the Democrat/RINO Party!)
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I live above the valley. Watching all the traffic going south and east out of the valley. Lots of bad reporting and it appears that the emergency spillway will hold until the water recedes in an hour or so. More to follow.


9 posted on 02/12/2017 7:01:06 PM PST by Keyga8tor
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Also Here; KRCR Facebook feed. (Found on one of the other threads.)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vwIst1YiMdo


15 posted on 02/12/2017 7:05:25 PM PST by Pete from Shawnee Mission
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“Live” thread http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/3524238/posts


16 posted on 02/12/2017 7:05:47 PM PST by BenLurkin (The above is not a statement of fact. It is either satire or opinion. Or both.)
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The book written in 1981 that predicted quite a bit of what is happening so far - and hopefully a total failure that won't happen:

Byrne: The DAM

18 posted on 02/12/2017 7:07:35 PM PST by detsaoT
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The scandal is that California was hordeing all this water in the first place. They should have been drawing down lake levels months ago!


19 posted on 02/12/2017 7:08:03 PM PST by dangus
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CA can’t seem to do a dam thing right.


23 posted on 02/12/2017 7:13:49 PM PST by smokingfrog ( sleep with one eye open (<o> ---)
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Illegal dam illegals dam illegals dam.......... illegals


30 posted on 02/12/2017 7:28:36 PM PST by ronnie raygun
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Calling Governor Moonbeam ... Calling Governor Moonbeam ... Calling Governor Moonbeam ...........................


31 posted on 02/12/2017 7:33:31 PM PST by aught-6
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A friend in Redding says they are releasing lots of extra water from Lake Shasta also. A warm rain this week could also melt the snow at higher elevations.


36 posted on 02/12/2017 8:00:38 PM PST by tubebender
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State of Ca. is broke. In big debt. Hanging by a thread. Tip of the iceberg.


37 posted on 02/12/2017 8:15:18 PM PST by Lonely Are The Brave
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The reinforced concrete solution is in the past now. Ignorant, criminal and filthy democrats own this one.


40 posted on 02/12/2017 8:40:45 PM PST by soycd
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This part of California does not have classic bedrock as I recall.


41 posted on 02/12/2017 8:40:45 PM PST by Sales Rep
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i’m not an engineer, so maybe others with experience can comment, but isn’t it unusual there’s only 1 main spillway? other dams around here have several so that even if 1 failed, they could cut it and still keep releasing. isn’t engineering for safety about redundancy?


42 posted on 02/12/2017 8:40:45 PM PST by thinkliberty64
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The Lake is @ 790,000 acre feet (AF) above flood control level. As of Sunday 167,000 CFS was flowing into the lake and they were releasing @ 100,000 CFS down the damaged normal spillway. This means +70,000 CFS is going over the emergency spillway which basically just stops water from running over the dam itself. When the spill way gives way it could threaten the dam and immediately release a 30 foot wall of water with @ up to 500,000 acre feet of water rushing down the feather river all at once. This could even threaten Beal Air Force Base.

On our normal weekly operations call with the Bureau of Reclamation they said the Department of Water Resources (DWR) did not expect water levels to rise enough to go over the emergency spillway. Boy was DWR wrong. DWR damaged an emergency valve at the base of the dam a few years ago in a stupid experiment by Fish agencies to let cold water at the bottom of the lake flow for fish. A failure when a concrete wall broke and flooded the control room nearly was catastrophic and just before the control room flooded an engineer was able to hit the emergency control to close the valve. That has not been repaired and is not being reported. They new they were in trouble when the main spillway came apart and lots of water was coming into the lake.

46 posted on 02/12/2017 9:07:40 PM PST by Mat_Helm
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The lake holds 3.5 million acre feet of water which is now full. They can’t release water faster than is coming into the lake. They are trying to stay ahead of the game and are one storm away from catastrophe.


47 posted on 02/12/2017 9:10:12 PM PST by Mat_Helm
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