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Open-Carry Stunt in Police Station Ends with Arrests(DOH!)
pjmedia.com ^ | 2/7/2017 | Liz Sheld

Posted on 02/08/2017 11:01:49 AM PST by rktman

So two idiots sauntered into a police station jacked up with ammo and weapons to test the open-carry law in Dearborn, Michigan.

James Baker had body armor on and a semi-automatic pistol strapped to his hip as he slung a short-barreled rifle over his chest and pulled a black ski mask over his head. His buddy, Brandon Vreeland, a fellow open carry advocate, also had on body armor but left his gun in the car, instead bringing along cameras to videotape the encounter that was about to take place.

The two men wanted to file a complaint about being pulled over earlier by Dearborn police officers, but also saw it as an opportunity to test the suburban Detroit department to see if its officers “honored” the Constitution and their right to carry guns.

This is just plain stupid. And to really illustrate their stupidity, the duo refused to drop their weapons when police first instructed them to do so.

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TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; News/Current Events; Philosophy
KEYWORDS: 2a; banglist; opencarry
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To: rktman

These are NOT open carry advocates. They are complete and utter morons.


21 posted on 02/08/2017 12:19:28 PM PST by dware (I love waking up in a world with President Trump!)
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To: taxcontrol

Surely you jest. In this time of terrorism, two morons walk into a police station armed to the hilt and one with a ski mask on - so the police are just to say “Can I help you sir?”


22 posted on 02/08/2017 12:22:43 PM PST by Pirate Ragnar (Libs put feelings first and thought second.)
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To: taxcontrol

You’re sitting in a movie theater on a nice family outing. These guys walks in dressed this way. What’s your move?


23 posted on 02/08/2017 12:22:52 PM PST by thefactor (yes, as a matter of fact, i DID only read the excerpt)
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To: rktman

Had this been done when I was working, but dumbasses would have left in body bags. These LEOs were quite remarkable in their restraint.


24 posted on 02/08/2017 12:24:45 PM PST by Gator113 ( ~~Trump 2020~~)
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To: rktman

When I first saw this on the local news, I thought it was some kind of reaction to Dearborn being one of the first cities to be essentially taken over by Muslims. But it doesn’t appear that they had a message like that.


25 posted on 02/08/2017 12:29:18 PM PST by Elvina ("...the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed.")
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To: taxcontrol
To me, this is far more a case of over reaction by both sides.

I must respectfully disagree, with the current war on cops, assignations, BLM and assorted Muslim terrorists ruining wild they have every right to assume these idiots intended to do them harm.

The cops showed great restraint, if they would have just opened fire their actions would have been understandable, reasonable and justified. No prosecutor, judge or grand jury would indite under these circumstances.

These idiots are lucky to be alive.

26 posted on 02/08/2017 1:08:51 PM PST by usurper
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To: rktman

fooking maroons...


27 posted on 02/08/2017 2:18:21 PM PST by Vendome (I've Gotta Be Me - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wH-pk2vZG2M)
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To: taxcontrol
Lets suppose this slightly modified scenario:
Dressed exactly the same, and carrying exactly the same, the two walk into the lobby and sit down. Police instruct them to put their firearms down and they do so.

Then what crime could they have been charged with?

Yup. Was wondering if anyone was going to go there. If not I would. These fellows were morons. If they want to test how the police actually react in a realistic scenerio, they'd have just been wearing sidearms in holsters in a normal way without being theatrical about it. If the police had still overreacted, then they'd have had a point.

28 posted on 02/08/2017 2:47:18 PM PST by zeugma (The Brownshirts have taken over American Universities.)
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To: ctdonath2
Same reason Starbucks prohibits open carry: they used to allow it, but some similar jerks kept rubbing “i have a gun! Respect my rights!” in customers’ & staff’s faces. Stabucks doesn't prohibit open carry. Official corporate policy is merely to follow whatever the local laws are. If concealed carry is allowed, they allow it. Same with open carry. I've visited SB both open and concealed, without any issues. I think what you're talking about was when some moron decided to pull an open carry 'stunt' that caused disruption. Starbucks corporate asked folk not to carry open. They didn't prohibit it in their stores.
29 posted on 02/08/2017 2:51:03 PM PST by zeugma (The Brownshirts have taken over American Universities.)
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To: thefactor
You’re sitting in a movie theater on a nice family outing. These guys walks in dressed this way. What’s your move?

He has a ski mask on and dressed for a tactical assault?

Wife and kids to the floor as I move away from them and toward the idiots. Head shot for dumbass #1 in the ski mask then another for his buddy.

And the only statement they'll make is the via still art interpretation in the form of a chalk outline.

Ski mask and displayed weapons = I'm here to rob the place or shoot the place up.

And, at least in this state, lethal force is legal so long as you are in fear of death or serious bodily harm, which the state has to prove otherwise. I think the DA would have a hard time proving otherwise with both idiots in the dirt (e.g. no testimony from them) and the evidence is they walked in masked, wearing body armor, and heavily armed.

I know if I were on the jury the citizen would walk.

And VA is an open carry state with few restrictions. - You don a ski mask and open weapons......whole 'nuther story.

30 posted on 02/08/2017 3:55:12 PM PST by Repeat Offender (While the wicked stand confounded, call me with Thy saints surrounded.)
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To: thefactor

Keep an eye on them.


31 posted on 02/10/2017 11:56:41 AM PST by taxcontrol
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To: rktman

Lucky they werent shot.


32 posted on 02/11/2017 11:13:16 PM PST by AndyTheBear
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To: rktman
They should take their DUMBA$$ actions and case to the Ninth District Court.

I heard they're coming up with some DUMBA$$ rulings.

33 posted on 02/12/2017 12:18:41 AM PST by VideoDoctor
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To: VideoDoctor

Hmmm. I understand the 3 judges involved have decided to open their homes to some somali refugees so they can be taken care of properly. NOT!


34 posted on 02/12/2017 7:44:03 AM PST by rktman (Enlisted in the Navy in '67 to protect folks rights to strip my rights. WTH?!)
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