Posted on 01/12/2017 9:05:40 AM PST by SeekAndFind
We could of course build an island next to their island and put the UN on it ...
China well knows even if they won’t admit it that they need us a lot more than we them. America is the worlds biggest consumer to the tune of us consuming 25% of the entire worlds output of goods and services.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_largest_consumer_markets
What we buy from China, and we are by far their best and biggest customer we can buy from other nations. It may take a bit of time for other Nations to ramp up production too fill the void but it will happen in short order.
There is little China can do to resist the pressure of a boycott by us of their products. They have no effective leverage against us that does not involve damaging them more than it damages us.
Settlements are bad, island building is good?
What is the difference?
Oh, one can be bullied and one can not.
Hey China...here’s a clue for you. As of noon January 20, the sissies are gone and real men will be taking over. Get ready.
Short of going to war with China, there is nothing the Americans can do.
The bastard is clueless. It’s this type of ignorance that go us in this mess to begin with.
There are several action the US can take short of going to war, and the Chinese will swallow their pride and accept them and move off those islands.
I would start with 100 IRBMs with nukes in Japan, Korea and the Philippines. And back it up with 5 squadrons of F-15 and F-22 in Japan and PI. AND a permanent US Navy Patrol.
That would spark a 21st-century version of the Cuban missile crisis.
Well, not exactly.
China has only about 100 ICBMs, no intercontinental bombers and 2-3 subs with SLBMs.
And their conventional forces are far inferior.
For them to threaten existential war with the US would be a suicidal farce.
On the topic of shooting war, a tsunami wave created by a subsurface nuclear explosion would "wash our hands" in dealing with those islands - they would be history... or maybe the Yellow menace would be Whitewashed away.
It’s forgotten about the Chinese Nationalist/Taiwan islands which are right on the coast of Red China which were the subject of debate between Nixon and Kennedy during their debates in 1960.
http://query.nytimes.com/gst/abstract.html?res=9E04EEDE163FEF33A25750C1A9669D946191D6CF&legacy=true
KENNEDY CHARGES NIXON RISKS WAR; Opponent ‘Trigger-Happy’ on Quemoy, Senator Says — 3d TV Debate Tonight Kennedy Says Nixon Risks War By Calling for Quemoy Defense
Big war was averted and the islands are still held by Taiwan. China has a vastly larger nuclear arsenal then at that time. Today’s American nuclear war civil defense sheltering program is all but gone. Strange that so many American leaders are looking for new reasons to go to war with China as well as Russia.
As for myself, my North East US family does not have a backyard fallout shelter such as my parent once built. They had about two weeks supplies in it. If today I’d try to have several years worth.
Reportedly our leaders have much more elaborate bunkers than what their predecessors had back in the 1950’s and 60’s. It much easier to spend other people’s money as well as their lives.
I wonder if old Rex has any family members in the military?
Somehow I doubt he does.
I have no problem with the Chinese building islands. None. Why?
If we wanted to build islands, we would.
I am concerned that we are sticking our nose in someone else’s business.
We don’t need to stop this, we need to take care of our borders and our people. We need to be strong not a bully.
I agree, why didn’t we start building islands.
But Obama has been masterful at foreign policy and containing China’s expansion.
HAHAHAHAHA
It's Israeli land. The South China Sea islands have disputed territorial claims and are in international waters.
Well, because it threatened the rare Ten-legged Schmeggenlegitz Fish.
I knew that, just wanted to show the stupidity of
their position.
Many of these so called islands are closer to other
countries than they are to china.
Wonder what they’d do if we picked a shoal some place
and started building an island.
This is China’s attempt to claim the South China Sea
for it’s mineral and oil rights, and to control more
choke points.
Because the islands they are building are in a position in the East China sea that will allow China to control and choke off the narrow shipping lanes that connect the Western and Eastern hemispheres. They have HUGE international implications for all of our allies in the region. China is effectively creating a situation akin to having a Panama Canal that all of it's neighbors have to go through to ship their goods.
The Chinese have plenty of ICBMs. Hell they are putting astronauts in Space.
If we wanted to build islands, we would.
I am concerned that we are sticking our nose in someone elses business.
We dont need to stop this, we need to take care of our borders and our people. We need to be strong not a bully.
The inverted morality and fantasy world of totalitarian supporters pretending to be isolationists never ceases to amaze me.
These are islands hundreds of miles away from the coast of China in the territorial waters of other nations.
It's one thing to say that this is none of our concern or should be none of our concern. It is quite another to endorse land theft by the butchers of Beijing and then pretend that you are isolationist, when you are taking a stance for the communists.
Actually I believe it’s less than 100.
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