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Beijing Not Amused After Rex Tillerson Says US Will Block Chinese Access To South China Sea Islands
Zero Hedge ^ | 01/17/2017

Posted on 01/12/2017 9:05:40 AM PST by SeekAndFind

While Rex Tillerson's confirmation hearing as Trump's Secretary of State was for the most part uneventful, several hours into his back and forth with the Senate Foreign Relations Committee, Tillerson compared China’s actions to those of Russia in Crimea, saying a failure to respond had allowed it to “keep pushing the envelope” in the South China Sea. “We’re going to have to send China a clear signal that first the island-building stops and second your access to those islands is also not going to be allowed” and that putting military assets on those islands was "akin to Russia’s taking Crimea” from Ukraine.

With that statement, America's likely next secretary of state "has set a course for a potentially serious confrontation with Beijing" according to Reuters, which added that his comments are "expected to enrage Beijing." 

Tillerson, the former Exxon chairman and CEO, did not elaborate on what might be done to deny China access to the islands it has built up from South China Sea reefs, equipped with military-length airstrips and fortified with weapons. Trump's transition team did not immediately respond to a request for specifics on how China might be blocked from the artificial islands.

Tillerson said he considered China’s South China Sea activity "extremely worrisome" and that it would be a threat to the "entire global economy" if Beijing were able to dictate access to the waterway.

“This is the sort of off-the-cuff remark akin to a tweet that pours fuel on the fire and maybe makes things worse,” Malcolm Davis, a senior analyst at the Australian Strategic Policy Institute in Canberra told Bloomberg. “Short of going to war with China, there is nothing the Americans can do.”

He blamed the current situation on what he termed an inadequate U.S. response. "The failure of a response has allowed them just to keep pushing the envelope on this," Tillerson said.

China responded when its Foreign Ministry spokesman Lu Kand said China has been acting within the limits of its sovereignty. “Like the U.S., China has the right within its own territory to carry out normal activities,” he said at a regular briefing in Beijing. When asked repeatedly about Tillerson's comments on blocking access to islands, China's foreign ministry spokesman said he couldn't make any guesses as to what Tillerson was referring to and would not answer hypothetical questions, Reuters reported.

China's right to carry out 'normal activities' in its sovereign territory in the South China Sea is 'indisputable', Lu said, speaking at a daily briefing on Thursday. He did not elaborate.

Tillerson also said he would stand by U.S. defense treaties with Japan and South Korea. These had been in doubt after Trump said in an interview last March that he would consider withdrawing U.S. troops if allies didn’t pay more for their upkeep. Asked whether he agreed with Trump’s assertion that it wouldn’t be a bad thing for the U.S. if Japan and South Korea acquired nuclear weapons, Tillerson said he “did not agree."

"We have long-standing ally commitments with Japan and South Korea in the area and I think we would respond in accordance with those accords,” he said. “Certainly we have made commitments to Japan in terms of a guarantee of their defense.”

Pouring more gasoline on US-Sino relations, Tillerson called China's South China Sea island-building and declaration of an air defense zone in the East China Sea it contests with Japan "illegal actions." "They’re taking territory or control, or declaring control of territories that are not rightfully China’s."

Tillerson also said Washington needed to reaffirm its commitment to Taiwan, which Beijing regards as a renegade province, however he stopped short of Trump's questioning of Washington's long-standing policy on the issue.  "I don’t know of any plans to alter the 'one China' position," Tillerson said.

Curiously, Tillerson's words went beyond Trump's own tough rhetoric on China. Regional military sources said while the U.S. navy had extensive capabilities in Asia to stage blocking operations with ships, submarines and planes, any such move against China's growing naval fleets would risk dangerous escalations.

Tillerson's criticism of China was not confined solely to geopolitics: he accused China of failing to live up to global agreements on trade and intellectual property, echoing past remarks by Trump, who has threatened to impose high, retaliatory tariffs on China.

But Tillerson also stressed the "deeply intertwined" nature of the world's two biggest economies. "We should not let disagreements over other issues exclude areas for productive partnership."



TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: china; southchinasea; tillerson; trumpchina
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To: Uncle Miltie

We could of course build an island next to their island and put the UN on it ...


21 posted on 01/12/2017 9:44:47 AM PST by PIF (They came for me and mine ... now it is your turn ...)
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To: SeekAndFind

China well knows even if they won’t admit it that they need us a lot more than we them. America is the worlds biggest consumer to the tune of us consuming 25% of the entire worlds output of goods and services.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_largest_consumer_markets

What we buy from China, and we are by far their best and biggest customer we can buy from other nations. It may take a bit of time for other Nations to ramp up production too fill the void but it will happen in short order.

There is little China can do to resist the pressure of a boycott by us of their products. They have no effective leverage against us that does not involve damaging them more than it damages us.


22 posted on 01/12/2017 9:47:15 AM PST by billyboy15
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To: SeekAndFind

Settlements are bad, island building is good?
What is the difference?
Oh, one can be bullied and one can not.


23 posted on 01/12/2017 9:49:54 AM PST by tet68 ( " We would not die in that man's company, that fears his fellowship to die with us...." Henry V.)
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To: SeekAndFind

Hey China...here’s a clue for you. As of noon January 20, the sissies are gone and real men will be taking over. Get ready.


24 posted on 01/12/2017 9:51:00 AM PST by pgkdan (The Silent Majority Stands With TRUMP!)
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To: SeekAndFind

“Short of going to war with China, there is nothing the Americans can do.”

The bastard is clueless. It’s this type of ignorance that go us in this mess to begin with.

There are several action the US can take short of going to war, and the Chinese will swallow their pride and accept them and move off those islands.

I would start with 100 IRBMs with nukes in Japan, Korea and the Philippines. And back it up with 5 squadrons of F-15 and F-22 in Japan and PI. AND a permanent US Navy Patrol.


25 posted on 01/12/2017 10:06:36 AM PST by Mariner (War Criminal #18)
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To: Mariner

That would spark a 21st-century version of the Cuban missile crisis.


26 posted on 01/12/2017 10:19:33 AM PST by socalgop
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To: socalgop

Well, not exactly.

China has only about 100 ICBMs, no intercontinental bombers and 2-3 subs with SLBMs.

And their conventional forces are far inferior.

For them to threaten existential war with the US would be a suicidal farce.


27 posted on 01/12/2017 10:30:24 AM PST by Mariner (War Criminal #18)
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To: UCANSEE2
Trade war will cause China to reassess their illegal military adventures as funding dries up. Imagine Walmart being denied Cargo City's Containers... Just a embargo and access a minimum 25% import duty for items -- all then visually inspected item-by-item would end this dispute rapidly. China cannot afford to have her exports shut down, especially if the cost is keeping those islands illegally.

On the topic of shooting war, a tsunami wave created by a subsurface nuclear explosion would "wash our hands" in dealing with those islands - they would be history... or maybe the Yellow menace would be Whitewashed away.

28 posted on 01/12/2017 10:31:16 AM PST by Jumper
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To: SeekAndFind

It’s forgotten about the Chinese Nationalist/Taiwan islands which are right on the coast of Red China which were the subject of debate between Nixon and Kennedy during their debates in 1960.

http://query.nytimes.com/gst/abstract.html?res=9E04EEDE163FEF33A25750C1A9669D946191D6CF&legacy=true

KENNEDY CHARGES NIXON RISKS WAR; Opponent ‘Trigger-Happy’ on Quemoy, Senator Says — 3d TV Debate Tonight Kennedy Says Nixon Risks War By Calling for Quemoy Defense

Big war was averted and the islands are still held by Taiwan. China has a vastly larger nuclear arsenal then at that time. Today’s American nuclear war civil defense sheltering program is all but gone. Strange that so many American leaders are looking for new reasons to go to war with China as well as Russia.

As for myself, my North East US family does not have a backyard fallout shelter such as my parent once built. They had about two weeks supplies in it. If today I’d try to have several years worth.

Reportedly our leaders have much more elaborate bunkers than what their predecessors had back in the 1950’s and 60’s. It much easier to spend other people’s money as well as their lives.


29 posted on 01/12/2017 10:44:43 AM PST by stagline
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To: SeekAndFind

I wonder if old Rex has any family members in the military?

Somehow I doubt he does.


30 posted on 01/12/2017 11:13:02 AM PST by rfreedom4u (The root word of vigilante is vigilant!)
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To: slumber1

I have no problem with the Chinese building islands. None. Why?

If we wanted to build islands, we would.

I am concerned that we are sticking our nose in someone else’s business.

We don’t need to stop this, we need to take care of our borders and our people. We need to be strong not a bully.


31 posted on 01/12/2017 11:29:49 AM PST by Chickensoup (Leftists today are speaking as if they plan to commence to commit genocide against conservatives.)
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To: Chickensoup

I agree, why didn’t we start building islands.


32 posted on 01/12/2017 11:31:29 AM PST by TomasUSMC (FIGHT LIKE WW2, WIN LIKE WW2. FIGHT LIKE NAM, FINISH LIKE NAM.)
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To: SeekAndFind

But Obama has been masterful at foreign policy and containing China’s expansion.

HAHAHAHAHA


33 posted on 01/12/2017 12:03:35 PM PST by Organic Panic (Rich White Man Evicts Poor Black Family From Public Housing - MSNBCPBSCNNNYTABC)
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To: tet68
Settlements are bad, island building is good? What is the difference?

It's Israeli land. The South China Sea islands have disputed territorial claims and are in international waters.

34 posted on 01/12/2017 12:19:04 PM PST by ROCKLOBSTER (It's all Obama's fault.)
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To: TomasUSMC
why didn’t we start building islands.

Well, because it threatened the rare Ten-legged Schmeggenlegitz Fish.

35 posted on 01/12/2017 12:22:16 PM PST by ROCKLOBSTER (It's all Obama's fault.)
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To: ROCKLOBSTER

I knew that, just wanted to show the stupidity of
their position.
Many of these so called islands are closer to other
countries than they are to china.
Wonder what they’d do if we picked a shoal some place
and started building an island.

This is China’s attempt to claim the South China Sea
for it’s mineral and oil rights, and to control more
choke points.


36 posted on 01/12/2017 2:09:47 PM PST by tet68 ( " We would not die in that man's company, that fears his fellowship to die with us...." Henry V.)
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To: Chickensoup
I have no problem with the Chinese building islands. None. Why?

Because the islands they are building are in a position in the East China sea that will allow China to control and choke off the narrow shipping lanes that connect the Western and Eastern hemispheres. They have HUGE international implications for all of our allies in the region. China is effectively creating a situation akin to having a Panama Canal that all of it's neighbors have to go through to ship their goods.

37 posted on 01/12/2017 2:24:58 PM PST by Sparticus (Tar and feathers for the next dumb@ss Republican that uses the word bipartisanship.)
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To: Mariner

The Chinese have plenty of ICBMs. Hell they are putting astronauts in Space.


38 posted on 01/12/2017 4:08:42 PM PST by TomasUSMC (FIGHT LIKE WW2, WIN LIKE WW2. FIGHT LIKE NAM, FINISH LIKE NAM.)
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To: Chickensoup
I have no problem with the Chinese building islands. None. Why?

If we wanted to build islands, we would.

I am concerned that we are sticking our nose in someone else’s business.

We don’t need to stop this, we need to take care of our borders and our people. We need to be strong not a bully.

The inverted morality and fantasy world of totalitarian supporters pretending to be isolationists never ceases to amaze me.
These are islands hundreds of miles away from the coast of China in the territorial waters of other nations.
It's one thing to say that this is none of our concern or should be none of our concern. It is quite another to endorse land theft by the butchers of Beijing and then pretend that you are isolationist, when you are taking a stance for the communists.

39 posted on 01/12/2017 5:11:33 PM PST by rmlew ("Mosques are our barracks, minarets our bayonets, domes our helmets, the believers our soldiers.")
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To: TomasUSMC

Actually I believe it’s less than 100.


40 posted on 01/12/2017 6:22:56 PM PST by Mariner (War Criminal #18)
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