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Remedy for Russian meddling should be new election (LOL Alert)
The Hill ^ | 01/11/17 02:20 PM EST | Chris Edelson

Posted on 01/11/2017 3:55:43 PM PST by keat

It sounds like a story lifted from the pages of a spy novel. U.S. intelligence officials have concluded that Russian dictator Vladimir Putin led a cyberespionage scheme designed to help Donald Trump win the presidential election.

What's even worse is that Putin's plan worked and Trump now seems to be siding with Russia against U.S. intelligence agencies. It's hard to know how to respond to this because it is unprecedented. But it is essential to take whatever action is necessary to make this right, as difficult, complicated and even uncomfortable as that may be.

The hard reality is that the presidential election we just held was delegitimized by foreign interference. This is not some conspiracy theory or fevered fantasy; it is a conclusion that flows directly from the unanimous assessments of the U.S. intelligence community.

It would be an enormous mistake to ignore this, as Trump has suggested we should.

In fact, if we can confirm the intelligence report's conclusion that Putin intervened with the goal of electing Trump, there must be a new election in the United States. This sounds extraordinary, and of course it is. But it can be done, and indeed must be done in order to uphold the fundamental democratic principle of free and fair elections, a principle undermined by the Russian efforts.

How would this take place? The first step should be to conduct further investigations aimed at determining whether the intelligence agencies' conclusions are correct. It is dangerous for Trump to suggest, without a shred of evidence, that the intelligence report is wrong. But it would also be a mistake to accept the intelligence report without asking questions and getting more information.

Last week, the U.S. Senate Armed Services Committee chaired by Sen. John McCain(R-Bellevue) began holding hearings about Russian interference in the election. The McCain hearings are a good start, but more action is needed, including most importantly the establishment of an independent, nonpartisan body along the lines of the 9/11 commission.

If such a commission confirmed the intelligence conclusions (while also exploring other questions), it would then seek to determine whether Russian interference affected the election outcome and gave Trump a victory.

Trump is desperately insisting that his election was legitimate, including by making misleading statements about the intelligence report's conclusions. After receiving a briefing last week, Trump tweeted that "Intelligence stated very strongly there was absolutely no evidence that hacking affected the election results. Voting machines not touched!"

This is dangerously deceptive. U.S. intelligence concluded that Russian actions did not affect vote counting, but that wasn't the point. Russia's goal was what the intelligence report describes as "influence efforts."

This included the use of propaganda to praise Trump and denigrate Democratic nominee Hillary Clinton

, and, most insidiously, disseminating stolen data obtained through Russian cyberespionage. This included the content of emails stolen from the accounts of Democratic party officials and disseminated by Wikileaks.

Trump himself certainly believed the information spread by Wikileaks was helpful to his election chances; he talked about it incessantly on the campaign trail. In the last month of the election alone, Trump mentioned WikiLeaks 164 times. In an election decided by fewer than 100,000 votes in three states, it's quite likely that Russia's efforts did make a difference

Extensive news coverage often focused on WikiLeaks, which at the very least made it harder for Clinton to advance her own message, and at worst created confusion for voters and journalists who incorrectly thought the WikiLeaks story was connected to an FBI investigation of Clinton’s email server. Julian Assange timed the release of information to inflict maximum political damage on Clinton and the leaked emails succeeded in sowing discord among Democrats and causing tangible harm to the Clinton campaign.

It's not the job of U.S. intelligence agencies to determine whether Russian hacking affected the US election results, and the intelligence report released last week did not resolve this. But an independent commission can and must answer this question.

If it is determined that Russian efforts did indeed put Trump over the top in an incredibly close election, then the next step would be to pass a constitutional amendment requiring a one-time special election to be held as soon as possible.

This would be far from easy, but it is possible with the support of a two-thirds majority in each chamber of Congress, followed with ratification by three-fourths of state legislatures. All of this is unlikely, to say the least — especially in light of the disappointing reality that most Republicans in Congress seem to be willing to let Russian election sabotage slide.

But it is well worth trying, as the alternative would be to accept the results of an election tainted by foreign interference. The choice should be clear: Let's see if elected officials are courageous enough and patriotic enough to take whatever action is needed to set this right.


TOPICS: News/Current Events; Political Humor/Cartoons; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: donaldtrump; lol; russianhacking; trump
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To: keat

Yes, bless their pea-pickin’ little hearts.


41 posted on 01/11/2017 4:34:10 PM PST by pax_et_bonum (Never Forget the Seals of Extortion 17 - and God Bless America)
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To: keat

What the Libs really to put a bubble around the US to make sure the Election is “pure”. And who will decide what is news or not? Why they will, of course!

Oh, and BTW, illegals will still be able to vote.


42 posted on 01/11/2017 4:38:12 PM PST by rbg81 (Truth is stranger than fiction)
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To: catnipman
2. One or more players hacked into DNC servers and

Actually they got in with a simple phishing email.

43 posted on 01/11/2017 4:41:30 PM PST by palmer (turn into nonpaper w no identifying heading and send nonsecure)
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To: rigelkentaurus

What if Russia and Obama are in cahoots. It could be the end.


44 posted on 01/11/2017 4:44:10 PM PST by farsund
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To: keat
Well, there is one very positive potential outcome of a redo election: Hillary could lose AGAIN!!!!

How cool would that be?!

45 posted on 01/11/2017 4:44:23 PM PST by DJ Frisat (Hey, what happened to my clever tag line?!)
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To: Sam Gamgee

It’s not ‘hacking’ to ask somebody for their password.


46 posted on 01/11/2017 4:45:31 PM PST by Jim Noble (Die Gedanken sind Frei)
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To: Sam Gamgee
Too bad the stain of this could hang onto Trump for the next four years.

We'll talk about it in four years, if you are still here.

47 posted on 01/11/2017 4:58:23 PM PST by palmer (turn into nonpaper w no identifying heading and send nonsecure)
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To: keat
Yeah, that's only fair. And you know what would be more fair? If the states that went for Trump weren't allowed to vote in the new election. In fact, if Republicans in general weren't allowed to vote. Ever. At all. Better yet, if all the Republicans were just lined up against a wall and shot. THAT would make the election fair!

Sorry ... I had a lobotomy over the weekend and I started to think like a liberal there for a second. But even with half my brain removed, I came to my senses.

48 posted on 01/11/2017 4:59:50 PM PST by IronJack
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To: keat
But an independent commission can and must answer this question.

If it is determined that Russian efforts did indeed put Trump over the top in an incredibly close election,

How, pray tell, would that "independent commission" arrive at any provable conclusion that the Russian efforts put Trump over the top? Would they interview every single voter to determine their state of mind at the time they voted?

This is one of the most stupid statements I've ever read. If this fool wrote this for a journalism or Poli Sci class, he would get a "D" over "A-". D for the content and reasoning in it, A for the composition, spelling, and punctuation.

This guy is living in that sweet little world where Democrats still control the Senate and the House against a Republican President, and can drum up and "prove" pretty much any charge against the President, and their chorus in the MSM will reinforce it. The world just changed, Bucky. A meteor just hit your swamp.

49 posted on 01/11/2017 5:26:12 PM PST by Hardastarboard (Freedom Trumps Fascism)
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To: keat
Keep voting until the Democrats win.

Isn't it the only 'constitutional' thing to do?

50 posted on 01/11/2017 5:30:12 PM PST by blam
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To: dp0622
"pass a constitutional amendment requiring a one-time special election to be held as soon as possible...."

Yup.

Let Obama have another term just like Roosevelt. It'd be racist otherwise.

51 posted on 01/11/2017 5:32:30 PM PST by blam
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To: headstamp 2
Knowledge of the truth is an unfair advantage in an election?

I think the message hee is that elections must be conducted inside the Narrative. Truth must be excluded as UNAmerican.

52 posted on 01/11/2017 5:39:56 PM PST by arthurus
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To: keat

53 posted on 01/11/2017 5:40:04 PM PST by JPG (TRUMP WINS!!)
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To: All
Everyone around here saw this coming. They're so predictable.

Radical left fake news.
54 posted on 01/11/2017 5:41:44 PM PST by ssfromla
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To: hoagy62

Nicely done. Easily the best post I’ve read this week.

Thumbs up!


55 posted on 01/11/2017 6:43:07 PM PST by Boomer (You can't shame a fascist leftist (liberal) because they don't understand the concept of honor.)
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To: ssfromla

But this author has access to the best party drugs available judging by his fantasies.

I imagine the light will soon go out in his or her eyes if they keep doing them.


56 posted on 01/11/2017 6:48:00 PM PST by Boomer (You can't shame a fascist leftist (liberal) because they don't understand the concept of honor.)
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To: keat

57 posted on 01/11/2017 6:57:29 PM PST by Proyecto Anonimo
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To: Flag_This

“The dims spent the better part of 50 years trying to turn the country over to the Russians, why are they upset now?”

Because Russia is no longer an oppressive communist nation?


58 posted on 01/11/2017 9:18:02 PM PST by Rebelbase (ABC/NBC/CBS/MSNBC/PBS/CNN/FOX are THE LEGACY MEDIA)
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To: blam
We already voted until these LIB idiots WHINED.
59 posted on 01/11/2017 9:29:53 PM PST by hal ogen (First Amendment or Reeducation Camp?.)
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To: keat
It is dangerous for Trump to suggest, without a shred of evidence, that the intelligence report is wrong. But it would also be a mistake to accept the intelligence report without asking questions and getting more information.

The idiot is trying to have it both ways.....

60 posted on 01/12/2017 4:10:46 AM PST by trebb (Where in the the hell has my country gone?)
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