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Remedy for Russian meddling should be new election (LOL Alert)
The Hill ^ | 01/11/17 02:20 PM EST | Chris Edelson

Posted on 01/11/2017 3:55:43 PM PST by keat

It sounds like a story lifted from the pages of a spy novel. U.S. intelligence officials have concluded that Russian dictator Vladimir Putin led a cyberespionage scheme designed to help Donald Trump win the presidential election.

What's even worse is that Putin's plan worked and Trump now seems to be siding with Russia against U.S. intelligence agencies. It's hard to know how to respond to this because it is unprecedented. But it is essential to take whatever action is necessary to make this right, as difficult, complicated and even uncomfortable as that may be.

The hard reality is that the presidential election we just held was delegitimized by foreign interference. This is not some conspiracy theory or fevered fantasy; it is a conclusion that flows directly from the unanimous assessments of the U.S. intelligence community.

It would be an enormous mistake to ignore this, as Trump has suggested we should.

In fact, if we can confirm the intelligence report's conclusion that Putin intervened with the goal of electing Trump, there must be a new election in the United States. This sounds extraordinary, and of course it is. But it can be done, and indeed must be done in order to uphold the fundamental democratic principle of free and fair elections, a principle undermined by the Russian efforts.

How would this take place? The first step should be to conduct further investigations aimed at determining whether the intelligence agencies' conclusions are correct. It is dangerous for Trump to suggest, without a shred of evidence, that the intelligence report is wrong. But it would also be a mistake to accept the intelligence report without asking questions and getting more information.

Last week, the U.S. Senate Armed Services Committee chaired by Sen. John McCain(R-Bellevue) began holding hearings about Russian interference in the election. The McCain hearings are a good start, but more action is needed, including most importantly the establishment of an independent, nonpartisan body along the lines of the 9/11 commission.

If such a commission confirmed the intelligence conclusions (while also exploring other questions), it would then seek to determine whether Russian interference affected the election outcome and gave Trump a victory.

Trump is desperately insisting that his election was legitimate, including by making misleading statements about the intelligence report's conclusions. After receiving a briefing last week, Trump tweeted that "Intelligence stated very strongly there was absolutely no evidence that hacking affected the election results. Voting machines not touched!"

This is dangerously deceptive. U.S. intelligence concluded that Russian actions did not affect vote counting, but that wasn't the point. Russia's goal was what the intelligence report describes as "influence efforts."

This included the use of propaganda to praise Trump and denigrate Democratic nominee Hillary Clinton

, and, most insidiously, disseminating stolen data obtained through Russian cyberespionage. This included the content of emails stolen from the accounts of Democratic party officials and disseminated by Wikileaks.

Trump himself certainly believed the information spread by Wikileaks was helpful to his election chances; he talked about it incessantly on the campaign trail. In the last month of the election alone, Trump mentioned WikiLeaks 164 times. In an election decided by fewer than 100,000 votes in three states, it's quite likely that Russia's efforts did make a difference

Extensive news coverage often focused on WikiLeaks, which at the very least made it harder for Clinton to advance her own message, and at worst created confusion for voters and journalists who incorrectly thought the WikiLeaks story was connected to an FBI investigation of Clinton’s email server. Julian Assange timed the release of information to inflict maximum political damage on Clinton and the leaked emails succeeded in sowing discord among Democrats and causing tangible harm to the Clinton campaign.

It's not the job of U.S. intelligence agencies to determine whether Russian hacking affected the US election results, and the intelligence report released last week did not resolve this. But an independent commission can and must answer this question.

If it is determined that Russian efforts did indeed put Trump over the top in an incredibly close election, then the next step would be to pass a constitutional amendment requiring a one-time special election to be held as soon as possible.

This would be far from easy, but it is possible with the support of a two-thirds majority in each chamber of Congress, followed with ratification by three-fourths of state legislatures. All of this is unlikely, to say the least — especially in light of the disappointing reality that most Republicans in Congress seem to be willing to let Russian election sabotage slide.

But it is well worth trying, as the alternative would be to accept the results of an election tainted by foreign interference. The choice should be clear: Let's see if elected officials are courageous enough and patriotic enough to take whatever action is needed to set this right.


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Nine days and they haven't given up yet! God Bless them all.
1 posted on 01/11/2017 3:55:43 PM PST by keat
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To: keat

After eight years of an alien Muslim, this is a fart in the breeze.


2 posted on 01/11/2017 3:56:57 PM PST by headstamp 2 (Fear is the mind killer.)
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To: keat

delusional, certifiable. This writer needs to be checked into a mental health institution.


3 posted on 01/11/2017 3:59:22 PM PST by rigelkentaurus
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To: keat

4 posted on 01/11/2017 4:01:09 PM PST by heterosupremacist (Resistance to tyrants is obedience to God ~ Thomas Jefferson)
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I was going to vote for Obama until the Russians got to me. "Vote for Trump, comrade, or you'll be spending the next winter in Leningrad" is what they told me. What could I do?
5 posted on 01/11/2017 4:01:19 PM PST by Telepathic Intruder (The only thing the Left has learned from the failures of socialism is not to call it that)
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To: rigelkentaurus

Full blown mode has set in with the elites!!!!


6 posted on 01/11/2017 4:01:28 PM PST by JBW1949 (I'm really PC....PATRIOTICALLY CORRECT!!!!)
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To: keat
I like to go back every once in a while and re-read the wailing and gnashing of teeth about how Trump was not going to accept the outcome of the election, how nearly 250 years of continuous peaceful transitions of power would be challenged for the first time ever, how he was unamerican to even consider it.

It helps me find the humor in stories like this one.

7 posted on 01/11/2017 4:01:52 PM PST by pepsi_junkie (ui)
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To: JBW1949

panic mode...


8 posted on 01/11/2017 4:01:58 PM PST by JBW1949 (I'm really PC....PATRIOTICALLY CORRECT!!!!)
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To: keat

pass a constitutional amendment requiring a one-time special election to be held as soon as possible....

ROFL!!!!!!! :)

As much chance of this happening as me being heavyweight champ at 48 :)

AMAZING how all of a sudden the dems give a #### about Russia.

Didn’t obama say the 1980s wanted their policy back?

Trump should play that on audio over and over and over :)


9 posted on 01/11/2017 4:02:52 PM PST by dp0622 (The only thing an upper crust conservative hates more than a liberal is a middle class conservative)
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To: keat

GOD!!!!! I LOVE their pain!!! My life revels in their undying anguish, their pain, their suffering, their agony, their undying yearning to end their horror and their nightmare with the ultimate escape, the escape from which there exists no return. SUFFER, you filthy animals!!!!!


10 posted on 01/11/2017 4:04:02 PM PST by Lord Castlereagh
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Here, we have an example of two 'books' that CAN, and probably SHOULD be judged by their cover photos...
11 posted on 01/11/2017 4:05:01 PM PST by heterosupremacist (Resistance to tyrants is obedience to God ~ Thomas Jefferson)
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"Trump is desperately insisting that his election was legitimate..."

Yeah, it's Donald Trump who's desperate, not the progressive Left with their articles such as this one.

12 posted on 01/11/2017 4:05:58 PM PST by Trump20162020
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To: keat

Why is the Hill wanting a " Do-OVER " ?
while ignoring the illegal actions of Illery (cheating,
profiteering from governmental post, conspiracy with the DNC, etc.).
Oh right , that's NOT NEWS (!), just 'same ole, same ole, etc.!!


13 posted on 01/11/2017 4:06:44 PM PST by Tilted Irish Kilt (Muslim & Spanish migrants are like Kudzu-> designed to overload the system= Cloward-Piven)
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To: keat

Let me remind everyone that all of this palaver about “russian hacking” refers to nothing more than 2 things that everyone has known about for months and which the media has reported about for months without once worrying (until now) about where the information came from:

1. Someone sent a phishing email to that idiot Podest telling him that he needed to change his gmail password, thereby tricking him into typing his gmail password, which turned out to be “password”.

2. One or more players hacked into DNC servers and rooted around in there for months, and when they were finally alerted, they refused to let the FBI have access to determine what happened.

The only reason the fake stream media is hammering on this drum is because Hillary lost and they’re desperately trying to delegitimize President Trump with old news.


14 posted on 01/11/2017 4:06:51 PM PST by catnipman (Cat Nipman: Vote Republican in 2012 and only be called racist one more time!)
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To: rigelkentaurus

So, hypothetically, we have a do-over and because even more former donk voters are disgusted with their former party and its candidate, Trump wins by an even larger margin.

What then? Do over the do-over?

When questioned about legitimacy, zer0 voters shrugged and said it was fine if the winner put one over on the American people. The essence of their response was ‘good on him’. They celebrated their fantasy of a black gangster POTUS with ‘we won.’

Sauce for the goose.


15 posted on 01/11/2017 4:09:16 PM PST by reformedliberal
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To: keat

What is the remedy for both parties conspiring to install an usurper?

Barack Obama is not a natural born citizen.
He said he was born a British subject.
One cannot be a British subject and a natural born citizen.


16 posted on 01/11/2017 4:09:52 PM PST by Lurkinanloomin (Natural Born Citizen Means Born Here Of Citizen Parents)
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To: Lurkinanloomin

LIBs struggling with reality (and failing) is somewhat amusing to see. I laugh at their existence.


17 posted on 01/11/2017 4:12:25 PM PST by hal ogen (First Amendment or Reeducation Camp?.)
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To: keat

Good Lord. I have changed my tune as in I don’t see Clapper and the CIA as false, as it does appear they were correct about the Russian hacking. Still Russia was just the messenger and the facts about Hillary are still the facts. Too bad the stain of this could hang onto Trump for the next four years.


18 posted on 01/11/2017 4:13:54 PM PST by Sam Gamgee
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To: keat

This reminds me of 1980 when the Dems claimed that the theft of Carter’s debate briefing book enabled Reagan to win the debate and the election. I believe a total fool of a congressman, Donald Albosta, actually held hearings on this idiocy. When this idiotic tale failed, they made up the BS that Reagan had a deal with the Iranians to not release the hostages before the election. This was authored by another intelligence “expert”, one Gary Sick, who in support of it claimed that running mate George Bush had met on a certain day with the Iranians in Paris. When it was pointed out thatfilm existed of Bush being in public campaigning in Texas that day, Sick claimed he flew in the SR 71 spyplane, two hours each way, giving him enough time that day for a few minutes meeting at Paris Airport!!!


19 posted on 01/11/2017 4:14:55 PM PST by laconic
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To: keat
REAL NEWS: Russians help TRUMP win US election so that Americans can rid themselves of their corrupt ruling elite.

President Putin remarked, “Things will be better for EVERY NATION on this planet after these evil, villianous, corrupt lying thieves are removed from the powerful offices they constantly abuse for their own personal enrichment”.

20 posted on 01/11/2017 4:15:48 PM PST by UCANSEE2 (Lost my tagline on Flight MH370. Sorry for the inconvenience.)
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