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What I think concerning "Law Enforcement"...
01 Jan 2017 | US Navy Vet

Posted on 01/01/2017 4:06:01 AM PST by US Navy Vet

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To: Bryanw92
Wages have been in decline for decades. Nobody gets paid enough. Most of us don’t lash out by breaking the things we are trusted to care for in our jobs—except teachers and cops.

Agree. I heard for 30 years that teachers were underpaid and then their wages were printed in our local paper. 20% and greater than comparable private sector jobs and with summer vacations and double retirement plans. (teacher and SS)

41 posted on 01/01/2017 6:17:02 AM PST by River_Wrangler (Nothing difficult is ever easy!)
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To: trebb

IMO, there are two different styles of policing, city and rural police. Frankly, I don’t see much difference in rural policing over the past century because most of them are sheriffs/deputies. They were all mobile police either on horse or vehicle. No beats to walk.

City policing has changed quite a bit from cop on the beat who maintained order in his area and was the first one up for any disturbance. That gave way to coppers in cars because they were viewed as quicker to respond. Lost was the personal day to day interaction which deteriorated into the us verses them mentality on both sides.

My dad was a beat copper and he knew how to handle almost everything that came his way, he had the respect of those who knew him, and he was able to settle a lot of problems on the spot doling out what he referred to as street justice when needed.

One last comment, I think the move in the country from a more passive to violent aggressive populace has played a role in how enforcement is viewed these days. It blossomed with the anti war/draft crap of the 60s when those groups merged into the civil rights protest movements of the 50s.


42 posted on 01/01/2017 6:23:49 AM PST by Mouton (The insurrection laws maintain the status quo now.)
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To: All

When watching old reruns of COPS, I frequently think a lot of the behavior I see would end up getting the perp killed today.


43 posted on 01/01/2017 6:32:36 AM PST by mmichaels1970 (Hillary lied over four coffins.)
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To: US Navy Vet

I think they have been emboldened by our politicians creating an ever expanding government. And with that expanding government, we’ve become a police state.


44 posted on 01/01/2017 6:39:21 AM PST by caver (Obama: Home of the Whopper)
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To: RepRivFarm

“the guy died for a few penny tax on a smoke.”

You must work for HuffPo, Salon, or maybe BLM. What the hell are you doing on this BB?


45 posted on 01/01/2017 6:40:03 AM PST by NYAmerican
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To: mazda77

Chicago has not reported any shootings or deaths so far this year . . . of course, the first day is less than 12 hours old - but they are proud nonetheless of the accomplishment.


46 posted on 01/01/2017 6:40:57 AM PST by Pilgrim's Progress (http://www.baptistbiblebelievers.com/BYTOPICS/tabid/335/Default.aspx D)
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To: US Navy Vet

We were always law enforcement. The only people who have ever called me a peace officer are people who want to argue over something.


47 posted on 01/01/2017 6:45:58 AM PST by Noamie
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To: Alberta's Child

I read comments 1-37.

There were several good ones but you scored the most points so you win this thread, in one guy’s opinion, lol.


48 posted on 01/01/2017 6:48:56 AM PST by Cen-Tejas (it's the debt bomb stupid)
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To: US Navy Vet

Many regulators ( sanitarians, building inspectors, for example) used to work with people to protect the public and get things into compliance. Now, most of them are looking to write violations without regard to the circumstances. Just my observation.


49 posted on 01/01/2017 6:54:14 AM PST by 91B40
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To: River_Wrangler

>>Agree. I heard for 30 years that teachers were underpaid and then their wages were printed in our local paper. 20% and greater than comparable private sector jobs and with summer vacations and double retirement plans. (teacher and SS)

Same thing here. But, talk to one and ask why the education system is failing our children and they go straight to teacher pay as the thing that would produce better outcomes.

The three professions that affect the vulnerable the most are cops, teachers, and nurses. Cops and teachers whine all the time about money (yet they knew it was a “low-paying” profession when they entered it) and hint that they would do better for more money.

Nurses were lured in with promises of a huge paycheck and then the insurance system has forced them to work for much lower wages, yet they keep plugging along, doing their job to the best of their ability.

Nurses are real heroes. Cops and teachers are just union workers.


50 posted on 01/01/2017 7:01:27 AM PST by Bryanw92 (If we had some ham, we could have ham and eggs, if we had some eggs.)
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To: Mouton

Agree - God Bless your Dad - to me, Cops and Firefighters get the same respect as our military - and I spent 24 years in uniform.


51 posted on 01/01/2017 7:05:57 AM PST by trebb (Where in the the hell has my country gone?)
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To: Cen-Tejas
Thank you!

I've had a number of good "conversations" on this subject right here on FreeRepublic, so I was well prepared. LOL.

52 posted on 01/01/2017 7:09:51 AM PST by Alberta's Child ("Yo, bartender -- Jobu needs a refill!")
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To: US Navy Vet

I think that a lot of Cops’ problems are society’s problems. But, I think any serious discussion of the matter would have to include examination of the studies done by people like Heather MacDonald. I suspect that in this forum, as in many others, there are people who pretend to be subject-matter experts, when, in-fact, they are nothing of the kind. You know the “stolen valor” types, who are just bloviating.


53 posted on 01/01/2017 7:14:42 AM PST by old school
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To: wintertime
The children are treated like prisoners, marched about to the sound of bells, told when to eat, rest, exercise, and speak. Even their play grounds resemble prison exercise yards. What was the child's only crime? He was allowed to be born.

That sounds like the school I went to decades ago! My father went to the same type of school back in the 1930s. Only back then, we had corporal punishment and if you were a boy, you had to go to the boy's room to pee, even if you felt your name should be Nancy instead of Johnny. Those were hard times I tell you, I don't know how we made it through. I still have nightmares about those bells clanging and shuffling off to the dreaded U.S. History class with Mr. Shankworthy.

54 posted on 01/01/2017 7:15:36 AM PST by SamAdams76
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To: US Navy Vet
Thought:

I think that ALOT of the 'COPS'" Problems stem from when they went from being "Peace Officers" to "Law Enforcement" Revenue Officers.

55 posted on 01/01/2017 7:43:49 AM PST by Navy Patriot (America, a Rule of Mob nation)
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To: US Navy Vet

Thoughts? Sure. Tell them to quit enforcing the laws. Easy peasy.


56 posted on 01/01/2017 7:56:59 AM PST by Enterprise ("Those who can make you believe absurdities can make you commit atrocities." Voltaire)
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To: US Navy Vet

I fault the no knock raid. That led to the shock and awe tactics of the SWAT teams and the pushed the mentality of us vs them.


57 posted on 01/01/2017 8:45:09 AM PST by taxcontrol
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To: voicereason

I see your point. I have often thought that SWAT teams should only exist under the direct control of the Sheriff. Federal, State and Local agencies that have need for the SWAT team can arrange with the local Sheriff department.


58 posted on 01/01/2017 8:47:45 AM PST by taxcontrol
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To: US Navy Vet
I find it nearly impossible to have even the slightest respect for a cop that is wearing combat boots and bloused pant-legs. They look ridiculous. Add a shaved head to the look and they look like even more stupid. I have not seen State Patrol Officers dress that way and they generally behave more honorably too. Maybe they just don't hire the thug wannabees or maybe the State Patrol just avoids hiring those that are attracted to the whole SWAT, pseudo-paramilitary mentality. Those are the guys that were made fun of in school, drama queens and losers with a grudge. Generally dangerous when given a gun but they still look stupid.
A policeman that dresses like and acts like a policeman will get nothing but respect from me, even if he's writing me a ticket.
59 posted on 01/01/2017 8:54:13 AM PST by Colorado Doug (Now I know how the Indians felt to be sold out for a few beads and trinkets)
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To: Colorado Doug

Let me just add a big thank you to the overwhelming majority of good cops out there and especially FReeper cops. You deserve tons of respect. Be safe!!


60 posted on 01/01/2017 8:57:27 AM PST by Colorado Doug (Now I know how the Indians felt to be sold out for a few beads and trinkets)
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