Posted on 01/01/2017 4:06:01 AM PST by US Navy Vet
Agree. I heard for 30 years that teachers were underpaid and then their wages were printed in our local paper. 20% and greater than comparable private sector jobs and with summer vacations and double retirement plans. (teacher and SS)
IMO, there are two different styles of policing, city and rural police. Frankly, I don’t see much difference in rural policing over the past century because most of them are sheriffs/deputies. They were all mobile police either on horse or vehicle. No beats to walk.
City policing has changed quite a bit from cop on the beat who maintained order in his area and was the first one up for any disturbance. That gave way to coppers in cars because they were viewed as quicker to respond. Lost was the personal day to day interaction which deteriorated into the us verses them mentality on both sides.
My dad was a beat copper and he knew how to handle almost everything that came his way, he had the respect of those who knew him, and he was able to settle a lot of problems on the spot doling out what he referred to as street justice when needed.
One last comment, I think the move in the country from a more passive to violent aggressive populace has played a role in how enforcement is viewed these days. It blossomed with the anti war/draft crap of the 60s when those groups merged into the civil rights protest movements of the 50s.
When watching old reruns of COPS, I frequently think a lot of the behavior I see would end up getting the perp killed today.
I think they have been emboldened by our politicians creating an ever expanding government. And with that expanding government, we’ve become a police state.
“the guy died for a few penny tax on a smoke.”
You must work for HuffPo, Salon, or maybe BLM. What the hell are you doing on this BB?
Chicago has not reported any shootings or deaths so far this year . . . of course, the first day is less than 12 hours old - but they are proud nonetheless of the accomplishment.
We were always law enforcement. The only people who have ever called me a peace officer are people who want to argue over something.
I read comments 1-37.
There were several good ones but you scored the most points so you win this thread, in one guy’s opinion, lol.
Many regulators ( sanitarians, building inspectors, for example) used to work with people to protect the public and get things into compliance. Now, most of them are looking to write violations without regard to the circumstances. Just my observation.
>>Agree. I heard for 30 years that teachers were underpaid and then their wages were printed in our local paper. 20% and greater than comparable private sector jobs and with summer vacations and double retirement plans. (teacher and SS)
Same thing here. But, talk to one and ask why the education system is failing our children and they go straight to teacher pay as the thing that would produce better outcomes.
The three professions that affect the vulnerable the most are cops, teachers, and nurses. Cops and teachers whine all the time about money (yet they knew it was a “low-paying” profession when they entered it) and hint that they would do better for more money.
Nurses were lured in with promises of a huge paycheck and then the insurance system has forced them to work for much lower wages, yet they keep plugging along, doing their job to the best of their ability.
Nurses are real heroes. Cops and teachers are just union workers.
Agree - God Bless your Dad - to me, Cops and Firefighters get the same respect as our military - and I spent 24 years in uniform.
I've had a number of good "conversations" on this subject right here on FreeRepublic, so I was well prepared. LOL.
I think that a lot of Cops’ problems are society’s problems. But, I think any serious discussion of the matter would have to include examination of the studies done by people like Heather MacDonald. I suspect that in this forum, as in many others, there are people who pretend to be subject-matter experts, when, in-fact, they are nothing of the kind. You know the “stolen valor” types, who are just bloviating.
That sounds like the school I went to decades ago! My father went to the same type of school back in the 1930s. Only back then, we had corporal punishment and if you were a boy, you had to go to the boy's room to pee, even if you felt your name should be Nancy instead of Johnny. Those were hard times I tell you, I don't know how we made it through. I still have nightmares about those bells clanging and shuffling off to the dreaded U.S. History class with Mr. Shankworthy.
I think that ALOT of the 'COPS'" Problems stem from when they went from being "Peace Officers" to "Law Enforcement" Revenue Officers.
Thoughts? Sure. Tell them to quit enforcing the laws. Easy peasy.
I fault the no knock raid. That led to the shock and awe tactics of the SWAT teams and the pushed the mentality of us vs them.
I see your point. I have often thought that SWAT teams should only exist under the direct control of the Sheriff. Federal, State and Local agencies that have need for the SWAT team can arrange with the local Sheriff department.
Let me just add a big thank you to the overwhelming majority of good cops out there and especially FReeper cops. You deserve tons of respect. Be safe!!
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