Dreaming of leaving: How California can wave goodbye to the USA

Fox News ^ | Published December 14, 2016 | Paul Moreno, Ph.D.

[bigbob]

Climate change you can believe in!

[Publius]

Thank you for posting. It’s good to see that someone has actually done his homework on the legal and constitutional issues involved.

[FatherofFive]

Californians can leave anytime they want to, but they are not taking the state with them.

Canada is not big enough for them

[Az Joe]

But I want them to go west, not east.

[Az Joe]

I like it!

[dangerdoc]

http://www.theatlantic.com/business/archive/2014/05/which-states-are-givers-and-which-are-takers/361668/

Interesting read.

[Az Joe]

The other states may think it over and say: Hmmmm, why didn’t WE think of this?!

[Safrguns]

On the plus side, If California were to secede, democrats wouldn’t have a snowball’s chance in hell of winning another election forever.

[FatherofFive]

Not sure how most of CA survives without the water they get from other states.

They will shrivel up and die without water

[tomkat]

Californians can leave anytime they want to, but they are not taking the state with them

By force of arms, if necessary.

All the traitors can head for the sun and fun in Mexico.

[x]

+1

[The Bat Ladys Husband]

A. If it is good enought for California, its good enough for Texas.

B. Texas would never divide into 5 states.

[Thibodeaux]

How about invading and downgrading to a territory responsible to the congress. As such, the citizens would not be allowed to vote and have no voting representatives.

The government would be headed by a viceroy

[dirtymac]

I live in California and would gladly give up Southern California to Mexico, Central California and Northern California as their own states except for the Middle Section including San Francisco and Sacramento corridor would be it’s own state. I would vote for that

[VanDeKoik]

Yup.

Cut off their water. See if they can grow kale in a desert.

[Fhios]

California wants to leave? I say fine. They give up San Diego county, Orange County, Riverside county, San Bernadino county and Imperial county — which remains a state or the U.S.

Furthermore, all their corporations that started there lose all their IP, Copyrights and Trademarks, Hollywood drops all copyrights on films and music dating back more than 7 years.

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Billionaire activist Tom Steyer said in that aftermath of the election that, “It’s impossible to look at the Trump campaign and not see a direct threat to the civil liberties and dignity of California citizens.”

Sure. Who doesn't trust a "billionaire activist"?

Though President Obama would probably have held the door open had Texas tried to secede during his presidency, President-elect Trump is not likely to let California go in peace.

Interesting hypothetical. Obama might well have wimped out if it came down to a matter of using force. But any president who presides over the dissolution of the union and the loss of a major part of the country is going to go down in history as a failure, so just about any US president would do what they could to prevent that from happening.

Seriously, start dividing up the nation and at some point the country becomes a second rate power and its fate falls into the hands of other, more united and determined nations.

[dirtymac]

That is a good point. How long do you think it would take for CA to begin evicting illegal aliens, homeless, and drug abusers when they have to begin paying all of the on their own dime.

[nuf said]

This is too good to be true! How many electoral college votes does Kalifornia have? We would probably be guaranteed the presidency for the next 72 years!

"Pull the military assets out, cut the water pipes and power lines that cross the state lines and ship the illegals there. Then build a wall and defend the United States of America from the escapees, but permit emigration as long as they can prove they are Conservatives."

[PIF]

Only cede those counties in CA that vote dem and keep the rest.