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Should fans be allowed to bring guns into stadiums? (FoxNews hit piece)
Fox News Video ^ | 12/14/2016 | Rob Demetrious of FoxNews

Posted on 12/14/2016 4:44:15 PM PST by disclaimer

Should fans be allowed to bring guns into stadiums?

Dec. 14, 2016 - 2:34 - Three Republican Washington state representatives introduce bill that would permit licensed firearms inside sports stadiums.

See the Rob Demetrious Foxnews Video.

(Excerpt) Read more at video.foxnews.com ...


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Extended News; Front Page News; News/Current Events; US: Washington
KEYWORDS: 2a; msm; nra
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To: Grimmy

Thousands of drunk, belligerent fans jumping up and down and going nuts when the good guys score, what could possibly go wrong.


61 posted on 12/15/2016 1:54:39 PM PST by arrogantsob (Check out "CHAOS AND MAYHEM" at Amazon.com.)
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To: WayneS

You have a mob scene leaving a sports venue. Think about several fans going off on opposing rival fans.


62 posted on 12/15/2016 2:40:16 PM PST by SkyDancer
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To: SkyDancer

What’s your point. “Going off” on rival fans is illegal. Allowing law abiding citizens to arm themselves for self defense will not legalize assault, attempted murder or murder.


63 posted on 12/15/2016 2:46:02 PM PST by WayneS (An appeaser is one who feeds a crocodile, hoping it will eat him last. - Winston Churchill)
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To: WayneS

How many stories have you read about where rival fans went after each other or one group beat up on another rival? So instead of the home team beating up on a visiting team fan like in LA a while back they or a bunch of them haul out their guns and start blasting each other. It’s not anything to do with arming for self defense; the story is about allowing people to carry in stadiums. You figure it out.


64 posted on 12/15/2016 2:55:10 PM PST by SkyDancer
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To: Leep
If it were up to me i wouldn’t let a democrat have a gun.

ATF 4473 form question 'f' ought to block at least some sales to democrats

65 posted on 12/15/2016 2:55:14 PM PST by disclaimer
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To: SkyDancer
How many stories have you read about where rival fans went after each other or one group beat up on another rival? So instead of the home team beating up on a visiting team fan like in LA a while back they or a bunch of them haul out their guns and start blasting each other.

I'm not in favor of lawless zones - how did this become acceptable?

Thugs willing to commit assault aren't lawful conceal carriers anyway.

66 posted on 12/15/2016 3:03:40 PM PST by disclaimer
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To: disclaimer

Again it was all about allowing CW’s into sports venues. I’m just saying is there are plenty of stories out there how fans were beaten up by rival’s. My thoughts were what the heck would happen when several groups get into it outside after a game and have at it but this time with guns.


67 posted on 12/15/2016 3:14:58 PM PST by SkyDancer
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To: SkyDancer

the fans that get into those kinds of altercations are habitual law breakers, a CCW holder doesn’t just flip and join those ranks


68 posted on 12/15/2016 3:29:21 PM PST by disclaimer
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To: SkyDancer

I have figured it out.

One either believes in individual freedom and self-determination, or one does not. I believe in them.

Living in a free society involves accepting some level of risk. I do not believe that a small potential increase in safety is worth the loss of freedom.


69 posted on 12/15/2016 3:55:55 PM PST by WayneS (An appeaser is one who feeds a crocodile, hoping it will eat him last. - Winston Churchill)
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To: WayneS

It had nothing to do with the citizens right to bear arms. It was taking those arms into a sports venue where emotions run high. That’s all I’m saying.


70 posted on 12/15/2016 3:57:43 PM PST by SkyDancer
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To: arthurus
People can set their own policies on their own private property. Are you seriously trying to tell me that, if you're visiting my private home or business, I don't have the right to set policy regarding who can carry firearms on my private property.

The Bill of Rights, including the First and Second Amendments, are limits on the powers of government, not private individuals.

An individual's private property is just that, and said individual has every right to set policies on the bearing of arms thereon, and I'm not aware of any court case which has ever said otherwise.

It's patently ludicrous to assert that a person can't set such policies regarding those who they allow onto their own private property...

71 posted on 12/15/2016 4:08:19 PM PST by sargon (The Revolution is ON! Support President-elect Trump!)
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To: WayneS
It’s not “a private entity” if taxpayer dollars were used to fund the construction the stadium.

That's not necessarily true. I'm sure there are cases involving government subsidy wherein the owner retains full private property rights. Receiving a subsidy certainly doesn't automatically constitute an automatic waiver of such rights.

72 posted on 12/15/2016 4:11:04 PM PST by sargon (The Revolution is ON! Support President-elect Trump!)
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To: SkyDancer

I have figured it out.

One either believes in individual freedom and self-determination, or one does not. I believe in them.

Living in a free society involves accepting some level of risk. I do not believe that a small potential increase in safety is worth the loss of freedom.


73 posted on 12/15/2016 4:13:16 PM PST by WayneS (An appeaser is one who feeds a crocodile, hoping it will eat him last. - Winston Churchill)
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To: SkyDancer

in your opinion, how many different venues would have be allowed to ban guns before it did have to do with the right to bear arms.


74 posted on 12/15/2016 4:23:34 PM PST by WayneS (An appeaser is one who feeds a crocodile, hoping it will eat him last. - Winston Churchill)
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To: WayneS

Again. This was all about the story of letting people with guns into sports venues. It had nothing to do with the right to bear arms or that right being taken away. PERIOD.


75 posted on 12/15/2016 4:36:30 PM PST by SkyDancer
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To: sargon

I suppose State laws vary, but in Virginia, with some exceptions, if the stadium/venue avails itself of public funds, then the state gun laws regarding carrying in public places apply.

Schools are one of he exceptions. But not many professional sports teams play at school stadiums or arenas.


76 posted on 12/15/2016 4:36:37 PM PST by WayneS (An appeaser is one who feeds a crocodile, hoping it will eat him last. - Winston Churchill)
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To: SkyDancer

Keep telling yourself that.

But you did not answer my question. How many different places should be allowed to ban guns before you start considering the ban(s) a gun rights issue? You’re already up to one.


77 posted on 12/15/2016 4:40:40 PM PST by WayneS (An appeaser is one who feeds a crocodile, hoping it will eat him last. - Winston Churchill)
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To: arthurus

Shall not be infringed is clearly to mean by the government.


78 posted on 12/15/2016 5:38:47 PM PST by Almondjoy
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To: spintreebob

Exactly and apparently these people who agree with this dumb idea is that the difference between a stadium and say a college campus is that at the stadium everyone goes through a security screening. Thus getting guns into the stadium is difficult to say the least. Getting a gun into a classroom is a piece of cake.


79 posted on 12/15/2016 5:41:33 PM PST by Almondjoy
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To: disclaimer

80 posted on 12/15/2016 5:51:38 PM PST by PLMerite (Lord, let me die fighting lions. Amen.)
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