Designated observes watch as tabulators work on recounting presidential ballots in Dane County (Wis.) on December 1, 2016 in Madison, Wisconsin.
Posted on 12/02/2016 1:16:19 PM PST by SeekAndFind
The first day of the Wisconsin recount is over, and, perhaps ironically (or not, depending on your perspective), it was Green Party candidate Jill Stein who gained the most votes in the updated returns.
However, on December 2, according to the Wisconsin State Journal, a group of Donald Trump supporters asked a federal judge to stop the recount, saying it violates equal protection clauses because the state doesn’t have uniform standards for recounts and could miss the December 13 federal deadline for completing election results because of it.
Stein’s vote tally increased by 17 votes (she went from 7 votes to 24 in the only reporting county), according to the Wisconsin Election Commission’s day 1 spreadsheet.
If some were hoping the recount would help Hillary Clinton and hurt Donald Trump, it didn’t on day 1 anyway. Hillary Clinton lost a grand total of one vote, and Donald Trump lost two. That means Trump lost a grand total of a net 1 vote on day 1 of the recount.
That’s not going to go very far toward flipping the state. Wisconsin has 71 more counties to go (including populous ones, like Milwaukee), and Trump leads by more than 22,000 votes. The recount is historic; it’s the first presidential recount requested by a candidate since 2000, says WTMJ-TV. Stein is also trying to force recounts in Pennsylvania and Michigan; in Michigan, Trump has the ability to object to a recount, and he did so on December 1, calling it a “farce.”
To be clear, the day 1 vote totals from Wisconsin don’t mean anything when it comes to predicting the recount’s outcome because of the recount’s snail’s pace; only one tiny Wisconsin county – Menominee – had completed its returns by the end of the day on December 1, the first day of the first 2016 presidential recount in the country. That was a county that went for Clinton. However, a smattering of other villages and towns had also completed their results, and no one was reporting much had changed. Examples:
Four towns now done in @browncountywi. Only change: @HillaryClinton gaining a vote in Holland #WIRecount @fox11news pic.twitter.com/Se44AKHkEz
— Andrew LaCombe (@andrewlacombe) December 1, 2016
#WIRecount "They matched exactly" says official from River Hills. 1st municipality to finish in MKE county. @fox6now pic.twitter.com/JDDOHloaDj
— Ben Handelman (@BenHandelman) December 1, 2016
AT 5: A live #WIrecount update from @browncountywi. Towns of Eaton and Glenmore recounts had no changes @fox11news pic.twitter.com/UCojbalZ5t
— Andrew LaCombe (@andrewlacombe) December 1, 2016
Here's the final results for the town of Middleton. Total # of ballots cast matched exactly, additions are from ballots marked "creatively" pic.twitter.com/SO6yFBQt6U
— Jessica Arp (@news3jessica) December 1, 2016
It’s perhaps just ironic that it was Stein who pulled in the most new votes, gaining a grand total of 17 votes from Menominee County, which is the home of the Menominee Nation Indian reservation. Stein shelled out $3.5 million in donor money for the Wisconsin recount. However, it didn’t cost her very much in Menominee County. The Menominee only charged $200 for their hand recount, according to the Election Commission. In contrast, Milwaukee County is costing Stein more than half a million dollars all by itself.
This is what the Wisconsin Election Commission wrote about the day 1 returns:
“Menominee County has concluded its Recount for President, and its numbers are included in the spreadsheet. The minutes of each county board of canvassers will include an explanation of any change of 10 or more votes in a reporting unit. This is the explanation provided by the Menominee County Clerk for the differences in numbers between the canvass and the recount:
Johnson/Weld — different by 12 due to human error. Didn’t get added to our tally sheet. Stein/Baraka — different by 17 due to human error. Wards 1,3,4,5 didn’t get added to tally sheet.”
The Excel spreadsheet itself compares the original vote totals to the recount totals. Here is what the spreadsheet said Menominee County reported. The rest of the spreadsheet was blank at the end of day 1 because, even though some other municipalities are done, no other counties as a whole are.
At some point somebody has to type or write the totals somewhere whether it’s on paper or into a computer. The only other way would be to have a purely electronic system or machines counting paper ballots that upload their totals directly to the state server. But once you network stuff, you open yourself up for hacking or more computer errors.
One way to reduce human error is to have two humans do the same work and have a third human compare their work to make sure they each got the same results. It would take more time and manpower.
About 15% of adults are illiterate. Some vote. Instead of throwing out improper ballots, recount officials try figure out what they were trying to vote for. My $.02...
Who’s the homeless guy in the beret?
I expect there will be similar give and take as we proceed. It should basically be a wash.
To demonstrate how this works, take a big jar of M&Ms and dump them on the table. Now count the different colors as you put them back in the jar. Chances are, you will come up with a slight different count every time, although only a tiny bit here and there.
Dear God, put an end to this recount travesty!
Exactly. If the recount is using the same process as the first count used, there is NO reason to assume it is more accurate than the first count. It is just as likely that it will be LESS accurate.
If you change from, say, counting by machine to counting by hand, then it’s more likely that count will have a different likelihood of being accurate. But it’s hard to say if it will be more likely or less likely without comparing the different processed used.
With the extra deadline pressure being put on these late recounts, they’re probably more likely to be wrong than the first count was.
“I hear the Dems are slow walking the recount”
They need time to discover 30,000 uncounted absentee ballots under someone’s desk.
RE: He’s actually down only one vote. The headline is a little misleading. Yes, Trump “lost” two votes but Crooked also lost one vote - for a net loss of one vote for Trump.
I expect there will be similar give and take as we proceed. It should basically be a wash.
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If this 1 or 2 vote discrepancies continue for 2 weeks ( December 19 is the date the Electoral College meet ), they’ll have to find 27,500 votes to turn Wisconsin for Hillary.
If I’m not mistaken, Madison, WI is in Dane County. Don’t think there is a Madison County, WI.
100% white! Oh, the racist horror...
What a farce by as loser lunatic and LIB degenerates. These people are malignancies on civil society.
It’s a search for ballots without a choice made for POTUS that can be filled in and turned into a vote for H->! .
Thanks.
GOOD FOR WISCONSIN that they aren’t letting the Corruptoids stuff another 100,000 HilLIARy ballots into Milwaukee or Madison
that’s all I was afraid of
Hillary gained only 1 vote after 1 full day of recounts.
Exactly. Or worse.
In the beret, sits Che Guevara’s twin brother —
https://iconicphotos.wordpress.com/2009/07/30/the-death-of-che-guevara/
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